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mark mulligan
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Nobody is blocking World Peace but you.
October 2, 2004 - 05:50 AM
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I can hear you say: "How dare you say that! I'm as much for peace as the next guy." Let me explain why that is not enough; why your current attitude will never produce world peace.
PeaceWorld would have NO NATIONS, NO STATES, NO GANG LORDS (Fuehrers, Presidents, Prime Ministers, Kings, Premiers, etc.). All political props and cultural crutches would be gone. We would have to stand naked before our conscience, and answer for our results. Everyone would have to. No excuses.
No more savage brutality, officially justified and privately ignored. No more babies starved; no more honest folk turned into refugees. No more selling M-16s and F-16s to thugs. No more burning down the planet. No more sitting on top of the world, farting its resources, and protesting in total futility against the next inevitable war. No more feeling good about what we should feel totally ashamed of. We'd actually have to walk our talk. Scary, right?
Humanity would be one giant tribe with no military enemies. One tribe with a gigantic council of elders, with its woman's circles gossiping endlessly, with popular spokespeople (obviously the most qualified since childhood; chosen for merit and especially for noble generosity) verbalizing the needs of everyone with justice and equity, and drawing honor from doing that, but no other advantage. With well-armed cops trained to shut down war, and wary judges set to block tyranny and ethnic hate crime. Every religion sacred, every child well-cared for, every front door unlocked. Across the whole planet, one tribe including everybody. One tribe, very rich. Not 200 street gangs shooting up the ruins of Planet Mogadishu on a Bad Day. Not America the Beautiful, the mere baddest street gang; and its next President selected to be the worst gang lord.
To maintain WeaponWorld the way we are doing, we gotta repeat weapon myths, cliches, and lies we've been raised on all our lives. We gotta think simple. We gotta think inevitable. We gotta blame somebody else for what we are responsible for. We gotta think reductively, like we've been taught to. Just reduce your imagination and conscience to nothing, like you've been taught to. WeaponWorld thrives on your refusal to think big, to think holistic, to think with hope; to call everyone your brother and sister, and act on that in realtime, without hypocrisy, contradiction or compromise.
To promote PeaceWorld, you gotta think complex, you gotta think heroic and optimistic. Not fashionable, not popular, not oft-quoted, not brain-dead. You gotta make up your own peace myths (just as valid as weapon myths; except you haven't heard them over and over hypnotically since childhood, the way you have weapon myths). You gotta turn those myths into reality. That means hard work.
World Peace won't happen until you want it to. It won't happen until you overcome your fear of it, stop badmouthing it, and start working and studying hard to make it happen. Nobody is blocking World Peace in your mind except you. Recognize your loathing, embrace it and turn it around! Change your mind and change the world. Make World Peace happen. Nobody is blocking World Peace but you.
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keep on truckin' mark...
October 7, 2004 - 11:45 AM
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hey mark...
came across your post on tig and checked out the peaceworld site...
while i'm glad to see that there are other individuals out there who are thinking along the same lines i am and acting on them, i noticed a fundamental flaw in your methods early in your site...
you get so much, but not 'everything'... if you did, you wouldn't refer to 'god' or promote christianity...
the movement that finally does accomplish what you're hoping to will do so absent of religion, one of the fundamental flaws in most humans...
to accomplish anything in this world, one must take complete responsibility for their actions and for their role in this world and the terms of their existence...
you will only get so far because religion and belief in a higher power always lead to hypocrisy... it is just contrary to the true nature of our existence...
we aren't the 'creations' of a higher power... we're just another species taking advantage of our perfect habitat...
just because we're conscious of our existence doesn't make us worlds apart as religion and the belief that humanity is a species 'chosen by god' would have us believe...
and until you address this issue, you are limited by your own personal hyprocrisy in a fundamental way...
i most definitely 100% agree with you in principle, but i know right off the bat that you're only going to get so far due to this limitation...
i'm interested in working with you to help bring about peaceworld, but i must admit that i'm skeptical as it stands after reading only the first couple of pages...
i'll continue on, and provided there's nothing that, imo, writes off your effectiveness completely, i'll try to contact you again to go over everything...
regardless, i wish you luck in your quest, and assure you that there are others out here with the same intentions and desires... hopefully you'll keep on keepin' on and one day our paths will cross...
thank you for your care and ambition... i hope there are many more out here with your same basic desires...
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keep on truckin' mark...
October 8, 2004 - 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by gappedout
you get so much, but not 'everything'... if you did, you wouldn't refer to 'god' or promote christianity...
When one of the main messages of a religion is peace then why shouldn't it be used.
i'm a christian and that is one of the reasons why i bleieve in peace.
"Peace I give you, my peace i leave with you"
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Re: Nobody is blocking World Peace but you.
November 16, 2004 - 07:38 AM
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When one of the main messages of a religion is peace then why shouldn't it be used.
i'm a christian and that is one of the reasons why i bleieve in peace.
Every religion asks for peace . Its the iterpretation that matters . Not even the interpretation , its the degree to which you follow it that matters .
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Re: Nobody is blocking World Peace but you.
November 19, 2004 - 03:00 AM
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Although I'm christian too, and my belief in world peace is affected by my religious ideas, but I believe that if you want to promote a message to the whole world you mustn't speak a language that is understood by only a part of the world, or even give the chance to people to oppose what you say only because of the religious banner that you use, this happen all the time at least at my part of the world,
second point, that I think we should think about it, its true that I believe in the real world peace that you talkek about (original message) but shouldn't we think on a smaller scale first so we can be more practical and reach the real peace stp by step, or is this a waste of time, I'm just confused
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Nothing is blocking World Peace but you
November 21, 2004 - 01:42 AM
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As soon as i read this discussion i remembered this quote i read on a discussion thread in an msn forum (http://groups.msn.com/Caribbean-Connections) that i manage:
What can you do to promote world peace? Go home and love your family.
-Mother Teresa
If each one does his little bit then it will all add up to alot, it is small bricks/blocks that build big houses.
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Thanks, guys
November 21, 2004 - 12:57 PM
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Thanks for paying attention to my scribbles.
We've been taught to think reductive and linear. Reductive: every problem must be broken down into small, easily understood and solved chunks. Linear: if one thing happens, other different things cannot happen.
World Peace requires holistic thinking: the whole must be solved simultaneously. No more four thousand years of breaking problems down and failing to solve them. It also requires cotemporality. A thing and its opposite can exist at the same point in space and time. For example, people can grow up to be Buddhists or atheists or even fundamentalist Christians, so be it. There is no real choice: it's what they grew up to be. However, I believe that they can choose, perfectly freely, to reincarnate into Jesus' lifeline after death. No one can stop or influence them, then. You see, both things can happen to the same person.
PeaceWorld is going to require a whole new way to think of the world, and problem-solve its difficulties. The mental tools we've used in the past have grown too rusty to trust any longer.
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mark mulligan
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Personal sainthood leads nowhere
November 22, 2004 - 07:34 AM
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4000 years of individual self-perfection and institutional neglect. Pay obsessive attention to becoming a nicer person, and neglect our institutions except every few hundred years during a bloody revolution.
ENOUGH!
We are the best people we need to be, ignore becoming nicer! Our institutions are rotten to the core, fix them every day in every way!
I beg you, please quit upholding weapons priorities and mouthing weapons cliches everyone's heard a thousand times before. Think new, think for yourself, think peace.
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Re: Nobody is blocking World Peace but you.
November 25, 2004 - 05:26 AM
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I like the way you put the title of the thread.
yes we are the ones who are blocking world peace..
most of us just talk but its not from the heart, most of us are hypocrites, most of us are not laying exemplary lives, yet we say we want world peace..
I beleive it starts from within and thats in our hearts and then amongst ourselves in our neighborhood and then gradually to others around us with no discrimnation to race, age, religion, color, sex or whatsoever.
befire we start to promote world peace, lets let peace live in our hearts first ..
PEACE everyone..
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Re: Nobody is blocking World Peace but you.
November 29, 2004 - 09:32 AM
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could be that we are blocking the peace.
But i mean, can you really imagine that the whole world would be peaceful if u asked it to? even for one day?
what makes humans speacial is that they tend to jump out of line, and it just isnt possible that peace can rule over the whole world.
It is in mankinds blood to try and rise up.
We cannot wheel back and live like people lived millions of years ago, without money houses clothes bla bla.
The human mind has 'evolved' and thinks differently than the minds taht lived centuries ago. You cannot suddenly take away weapons, or take away the knowledge of how to build weapons.
When one states taht we are the ones blocking peace; well in someways its true:
of course we can try and stop all the uneccessarry killing and war that has happened. We can learn from our mistakes and try to make the world pecefuller.
But we can never have a completely peaceful earth. Hypocricy.
We have learned from our mistakes (2 World War)and the world got better for a period, until bush started the whole shit all over again, only a little differently -
Each mind thinks independantly, you cannot force it to want peace.
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Re: Nobody is blocking World Peace but you.
December 7, 2004 - 08:57 AM
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To me, peace is one of those almost meaningless words these days - a cliche in itself. I agree with Mark in that we need to break out of the apathy that surrounds us and our own internal inertia through challenging assumptions which we have taken for granted. Even then, it is easier to say than to do (speaking from experience!)
Like Reubertochter said, the very nature of humankind and our continued survival on this planet is not peaceful. I don't think that we will ever encounter a day when everything will be peaceful. As some great sages have said, "the very essence of human life is struggle. Life without struggle is not life, but death - those who shirk this struggle - their place is the graveyard, not the world of the living"
So, as soon as you challenge someone to do with the garbage that they are doing in this world, you are disturbing the peace! Even if you are doing it for a righteous cause... peace in this sense then just becomes hypocritical, nonsensical idea... a romantic notion devoid from the nitty gritty of realistic living.
As far as dealing with individuals first before society - there is definite merit in this. But again, I find that it is often only through interactions / clash with others that we come to fully understand our own thoughts on different matters, and so often we are blind to our own shortcomings even then. I can't tell you how many times I have met people who proclaim loudly and clearly that they are not racist or sexist, yet at the same time they are saying this, their actions belie the complete opposite. We all have this self-delusion to a greater or lesser extent - it is not easy to face it or overcome it - and the process of overcoming it, certainly is not a peaceful one...
All the little intricacies which come up when you get into a discussion of peace... noone is blocking world peace but you ... yes, and that's the way it should be too! A peaceful world is a boring world, one in which we will not grow and challenge our limitations and shortcomings... Don't take this to mean that I stand for war - of course I don't, that is a completely different subject - but no time to go into that one right now!
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PEACE is marked in time
December 8, 2004 - 03:25 AM
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I read every body opinions, and I have to say they are all pretty good, but here is my opinion... Peace will not come until a large portion of Earth is destroyed such as 90% of the Earth surface..The human life that is left still living from the nuclear bombs and all the bombs that are drop at one period in time will wipe out majority of human life, for there will bring the few who are left among peace to survive and come together to try to save human life form.. Look at the location of the map where all the countries are located with nuclear bombs.Once nation verses nation, then peace will be prevail after the results of human life and resources are 90% to 95% destroyed.. The devil is taking form in flesh ,but his powers is not strong enough to open the gates of hell yet. I'm not talking about Bush been the devil but, in a whole another individual form. This PEACE thing is a good thing to try bring about to the world, but its a war been fought now with God and the devil. The Devil wants to destroy and kill God's people and God will be the winner when Judgment Day come. PEACE will not come about now until human life form is nearly 90% to 95% wipe out. I know it sounds scarey but its the truth.
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Delete the I
December 14, 2004 - 01:57 AM
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Exactly, I think we have talk about this nobody is blocking world peace but youself millions of time. However, the first thing one should do is to omit the "I" which is the ego. Think about it. I always try not to use as much "I" as possible even though in the modern world it is unevitable. With "I"s. there are a lot of differences that causes frictions. If we do not have "I"s, there would probably be less frictions.
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Re: Nobody is blocking World Peace but you.
December 15, 2004 - 02:11 AM
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good point McSalad, but umm...convince the whole world?
ill give u a 10000000000000000000000000000000000 million bucks if u can, i mean kommunism and socialism r abt deleting the 'I' but they wont get anywhere with tthat method, becz that is a method which u can talk of, u cant really do...get?
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DELETE The word "THINK"
December 15, 2004 - 02:16 AM
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Deleting the word "think" , then the world will understand "PEACE" is long way from now. That's what's wrong with the war now, the word, "think" Bush think Sadaam has weapons of mass destruction in Iraq right now. Delete the word "think" and you will understand the bigger picture to life.
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