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Should minorities get special treatment?
July 6, 2004 - 01:36 AM
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Do you think minorities should get special treatment (mainly in the US)?
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Re: Should minorities get special treatment?
July 7, 2004 - 01:14 AM
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NO
Nuff said. I'm not going to willfully jeopardise my rights so that some minority can attend a college before any one anglo can. There's an injustice being served in the United States, and that is called Affirmative Action.
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July 7, 2004 - 01:31 AM
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So would you rather attend a college that had no diversity and was predonminently middle-class and white? Do you think that a lack of culture would affect the learning environment and limit perspectives?
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Re: Should minorities get special treatment?
July 7, 2004 - 08:50 AM
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minorities? i think we really should ban that word from the cultural diversity forum, but TIG really hates banning things so i'll just state my point instead! afirmative action is not to benifit minorities, it is to provide a form of reperations to marginalized people. once upon a time in the united states we had a little thing called slavery. african people were stolen from their land and forced to work for free. slavery eventually was made illegal, but black people still worked for next to nothing and they weren't allowed to do the same things that white people were. many black people were hung for things they didn't do, and racism is still widely prevelent, as we can see in the mainstream media, and in this very forum!
because of things like this, black people, and other people of colour and marginalized peoples (working class, queer, differently abled, womyn, et. all) grow up with less opportunity than other people. i think that afirmative action for people of colour is only the first step. i would like to see more afirmative action based on other types of oppression so that we can open up those doors of opportunity much wider than they are already. i don't think that this is reverse prejeduce, because if you study hard and get good grades you can go to university no matter what colour your skin is. i am horrible at school (i graduated with a 79 average, thank god for alternative schools!!!) and i got into almost all of the universities i applied to. as long as you have money to give them, they will pretty much take you, trust me!
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Re: Should minorities get special treatment?
July 13, 2004 - 11:07 AM
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yes and no. i actually like the special treatment right now just the way it is. affirmative action does sound unfair from the non-minority view point but there really are extreme racists out there who own companies and probably refuse to hire people people of color. i also like the fact that most colleges are trying to become more diverse. i think it makes a better experience to know people from a different race and to learn some of their culture and religious beliefs. although reparations would be extremely nice. I do find them to be very unfair to the people who would be paying them. I think that affirmative action is a pretty good payoff for what happened in the past. thats my view on special treatment.
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should minorities get special treatment
July 21, 2004 - 04:32 AM
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I don't believe that it is necessary for minorities to get special treatment because it doesn't always have a positive effect. If you continue to tell a group that they are a "minority" or less than the average populus they will continue to act as if they are. In my experience certain minority groups take advantage of their special treatment and don't make any progress as a group. Also if they have no reason to work for something then more often than not they don't.
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Re: Should minorities get special treatment?
July 22, 2004 - 03:18 AM
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It is best to let people assimilate as fast as possible, thus avoiding conflicts. WE always work best if we are close to eachother, especially in culture/values.
Ave Futuria
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July 22, 2004 - 05:48 AM
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To give 'special treatment' to minorities is to remind them they are minorities and need 'special treatments' to survive.
Btw, how banning special treatment to minorities can minimize cultural diversity in colleges?
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Re: Should minorities get special treatment?
July 24, 2004 - 03:52 AM
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dudette,
that sucks that people hate on you in your 'hood. i guess it must also be a big blow when us anti-racist activists say that reverse-racism doesn't exist. are the cops in your neighborhood black? i think that you might experience a lot of hostility seeing as you live in texas and that black people used to get linched there just for being black. i've talked to a lot of black people in the north/eastern united states and they are still scared to go to texas.
i met this really awesome girl at an activist training who was from texas... let's call her jo for confidentialities sake. we played this game where we all lined up holding hands in the centre of the room and then we were asked different questions and steped back and forth depending on what our answers were. a more detailed description of this game is here if anyone wants to do the activity in their community: http://www.pscap.org/db/index.php?module=syllabus&func=display&lid=8&pid=4
jo was the only black womyn in the workshop, and jo was at the very very very back of the line. at the front of the line were most of the white males in the room. at the end of the excersize we all sat in a circle and cryed and talked about how the workshop made us feel, and the different realities of oppression.
we are not all born equally, and some of us have unearned privlidge. i have class, race, able bodied, and sexual-orientation privlidge. because of this my life is a lot easier. i also face sexism, political, and religious hatred. life is over all pretty easy for me, but there are some things that i am more at risk of because of being a jewish grrl that doesn't like boxes.
i think that afirmative action isn't telling marginalized people that they are "special cases" in need of our aid. i think that afirmative action is acknowledging systems of oppression and working to reverse them.
university isn't all that it's cracked up to be anyways. i think that it is a waste of money and that there are way better ways to learn and play in the world. of course i am saying this from a position of privlidge. i already have lots of connections and access to education living in canada and it is easy for me to work those to get jobs, books, free internet, food, and shelter.
meh....
just felt i needed to rant more.
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Re: Should minorities get special treatment?
July 24, 2004 - 12:21 PM
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College is something you earn, and not a handout to anyone who can't make it. It's quite rare that any in the United States wouldn't admit a qualified student who "happens to be a minority".
Slavery is over, people. Get it in your heads, that generations come and go--and the present racism in this country is not a result of the past.
If anything, the racism is a result of Anglos not agreeing with the fact that minorities get a handout because they feel life isn't fair.
I deal with plenty of prejiduce every day. But, I'm not here, rallying for my community to appoint more anglo home-owners. I live in a predominately black neighborhood. If anything, I'm being targeted for more racism than are the minorities in my community. But you don't see me complaining about it, now do you?
The only thing I have to say, is that treatment is earned, treatment is not an automatic gift given to those whose birth resulted in coming out a certain colour--or race--or ethnicity--whatever you like to call it.
And something else. Affirmative action is a result of racism in the United States. Bottom line. It is a racist policy--and if you want to complain about racism on this forum, go ahead. You take that college admission, because I don't want a dirty one.
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