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Tarek

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Saddam facing judgement
July 1, 2004 - 07:22 AM

This afternoon, I was watching alJazeeera TV Channel showing Saddam Hussein, the past president of IRAQ standing in front of Iraqi lawyers and judges telling him the list of crimes he committed and was accused to...
Interviewing Iraqi people showed many things : in one side, they found that most of them are happy for what is happening to him, in the other side, thay found that alot of volunteer lawyers are ready to defend Saddam hussein, the past Iraqi president...
I don't want how do the outsiders look to that?? personally, i do not know how to exactly judge this situation... i think arab people are more and more humiliated by showing such scenes of president Saddam judgement on TV... Others see that he deservs what he is living , or even more... comments?
Note : this is not a political thread, but just a personal point of view smile

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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 1, 2004 - 10:19 AM

I hope that Muslims people do not see this trial as a source of humiliation - but rather empowerment - this is a case of the people being able to extend judgement to a cruel dictator - someone who has caused them great pain, and someone who had always been above the law.

Now the people make him subject to the law. I hope that the US will keep its distance from the proceedings so that it does not appear to be westerners humiliating Muslims - but rather Muslim people reolizing their own power and despensing Muslim justice on an unjust man.

The Irony to this trial is that Saddam is so obviously guilty. I think he has alot of explaining to do. I for one enjoy seeing him out of power - now he cannot order death squads - now he is just a man, at trial who must answer for his crimes.

I understand that there are plenty of lawyers who would volunteer - this is to be expected it will make famous whoever handles the case. I just hope the Iraqi interm government chooses a prosecuter who is really sharp - who doesn't make mistakes that might make it possible for Saddam to walk free.

The Prosecuter needs to be the best lawyer in Iraq - period.


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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 1, 2004 - 10:49 AM

Saddam should fair, and that must be determined Iraqi.
No foreign interference..


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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 2, 2004 - 03:27 AM

I would say the likelihood he will recieve death penelty is high.

The problem with the death penalty to my mind is the imperfect implimentation of the law - but here is a case where the guy deserves it.

That the reason it is being done in Iraq and not the UN - the UN doesn't have a death penalty


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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 2, 2004 - 03:56 AM

I knew this thread would appear pretty quick after Saddam appeared. I offer my best hopes that justice will be done swiftly to this evil man.


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Execution?
July 2, 2004 - 04:08 AM

everyone say that the minimum for Saddam is execution, but the maximum can be long time massacre before death, and Saddam's execution/death will have great impacts on politics (at international level) and on Iraq at national level...


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Saddam-Trial and Personal Views
July 2, 2004 - 04:57 AM

I would have been very angry had Saddam Hussein been tried by a foreign justice system. His crimes were against his people first-the Iraqi's followed by the Iranian's and Kuwaitis.

Saddam was a manipulative man who should not have been in power. His acts of agression against the Shi'as of Iraq and against Iran, and Kuwaiti's are unforgivable.

He is a man that has no consience..I think he is the only human that I anxiously await to hear that he has been executed.


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Saddam Hussein!!!
July 2, 2004 - 11:08 AM

Anyway, he must be judged in front of iraqi law for what he committed, and judged with international law towards war crimes and criminals be cause what he did to his people is not less than war crimes, by gas killing, collective cemetaries, etc...
that must be a lesson for others (Political responsables)


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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 2, 2004 - 11:11 AM

I think so long he gets a fair trial with all due process I think it will be good that he will be punished. I personally oppose the death penalty and would be interest to see what you think about him in all likelyhood being executed. In other words do you think his execution will be good or bad for Iraq?


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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 2, 2004 - 12:48 PM

Originally posted by luke

The Prosecuter needs to be the best lawyer in Iraq - period.


I'm not disagreeing with you but the defence also should be the best there is.
If this is going to be a fair and just trial then he (unfortunatly) must be represented to an equal degree.


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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 3, 2004 - 04:48 AM

i think Bush should be judged too! both have done crime, so i think it's unfair that just Sadam is being judged! and both should be judged in a neutral land!


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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 3, 2004 - 05:56 AM

I agree that Sadaam should recieve a fair trial and be brough to justice in a fair manner, but seriously, what difference does it make WHO tries him. Either way, hes most likely goig to get the death penalty and the people would be rid of him. I understand that he committed crimes against the people of Iraq and bnack in 1990, Kuwait (the illegal invasion), but so long as he is being brought to justice, shouldnt there be at least SOME sort of satisfaction, even if he isnt tried by the Iraqi people? It is what the people want? Him being brough to justice. What more could you want?


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Re: Saddam facing judgement
July 3, 2004 - 07:11 AM

I agree - Sadam has to be tried in Iraq by the Iraqi powers - it is the people he committed the crimes against and the people who have the right to punish him.


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Saddam has already Judged his self, leave him a lone. me
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ironies
July 7, 2004 - 09:44 AM

I was watching on BBC Saddam's (unbelievable) replies against the charges about him massacaring Kurds, about human rights abuses, etc. The thing is, he would either deny responsibility by saying he personally didn't order the Kurds massacre, or he would just refuse to answer altogether.

It had never occured to me before that Saddam might actually try to deny he was responsible.

But most disturbing, these are exactly the kinds of replies you hear Australian (I am from Australia) politicians give- I wasn't told, I wasn't responsible, I can't answer this at the moment- when they are accused of fairly serious things such as making up lies about refugees, in order to be able to lock them up, and using that to win a election.

Also, I think the US officials responsible for supporting massacres, cruel regimes (such as Saddam's), and terrorists (such as Bin Laden) should also be charged, as supporting terrorists is surely a crime. I wonder what kinds of excuses they will come up with.


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