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Vegetarianism
June 30, 2004 - 03:44 AM
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What do you think of vegetarianism? Are you a vegetarian? Why? Have you ever been told that its unnatural or unhealthy? Is it how you were raised?
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Re: Vegetarianism
June 30, 2004 - 11:56 AM
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I cannot claim to be vegetarian, but I have stopped eating beef, chicken and pork since the beginning of this year....... I still eat turkey and seafood........ I stopped eating those meats because I know they are most contaminated with hormones and other substances that are not particularly in favor of our health(not stating that turkey and fish aren't) ...........especially US food industry is rather undermining/ challenging to healthy eating habbits.......
that's what I have to say about this issue for now
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 1, 2004 - 10:22 AM
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I dont want to see animals getting killed solely for myself.
But there is a conflict of interest present: Strong food and ability to do hard work and of course need for such food - heavy meat.
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Easy food - vegetarian one, and now unability to do heavy work. Certainly technology enables us to strive more for this second option.
POSSIBLE THIRD WAY?
What about making a some sort of a emulsion, plasma, which would contain vitamines and all necessary material which body needs on a daily basis - thus avoiding all murderous slaughterhouse industry. Feedback plz!
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 1, 2004 - 10:46 AM
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Very futuristic Kaiser! It sounds good, but I don't think it would work as a voluntary food source. People enjoy variety and things that taste good (which is why I find it hard to give up meat...I love hamburgers!) I don't think that the entire population would switch from their meaty, fatty meals to your vitamin plasma. If there was a need to switch to it because all the animals were poison or something wacky like that, then it might work. Like in the Matrix when they eat that super healthy slop on the ship after he gets out of the matrix because that's all the food they have. Gotta love the matrix references.
Glueckskind, so you're a semi-vegetarian for health reasons then? I have a friend that had to stop being a vegetarian because she was really unhealthy. Do you pay special attention to your diet to add vitamins and stuff? Would you eat meat if it was raised in your own farm and was completely hormone free?
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 1, 2004 - 11:01 AM
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I take a gradual approach. Step by step. I limited usage ofpork (heaviest sort of meat) to the utmost. I also use more fish in my diet. tHats all i am able to for now.
BTW: Vegetarian would probably save money on food costs 
Would love to further develop the idea about "food plasma"
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 2, 2004 - 01:58 AM
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I don't like meat as i've been walking to school there was the slaughtery at the road, so when you see the pigs shouting, the cows hangin, you really think about what you eat! so i don't eat most of the meat(only sea food and really really rarely chicken!)!
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 3, 2004 - 04:37 AM
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ja kaiser, sem prebral! it's a really great idea! what kinda jobs???? tell me! i'm interested in this stuff!
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 3, 2004 - 04:48 AM
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Matic, have you read my last post, when i was thinking about "food plasma" - which would be a ekvivalent to actual food, but could be produced in a actual chemical plant in huge masses?
I am thinking how to make it, but i already know its good usage: In impoverished nations, especially deserts. Transpost costs would be lot less, and also difficulty of transport would also decrease.
Possible jobs pending? For sure if we plan it ok.
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 5, 2004 - 04:11 AM
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I ment it in this context: For first need, in crisis. Just like one right now in Sudan (Darfur region), with literally million ppl relying on UN food supplies. I still cant figure out, how UN actually manages to trnsport so much needed supplies to the region, also Chad.
"Casual" i mean food we eat daily in modern world is HUGE in aspect from transport & logistics. With that you have many problems. If you send basic supplies like water and wheat - in bags, they will stil have to be processed by locals. I assume at least when it comes to water, that will be hard. For processing you need lot of tools, as a refugeei doubt they have those.
What remains as most reliable option is "food plasma". A liquid, very condensed fluid, containing daily (or 1/3) of all daily needs for an Individual. Carbon hydrates, vitamines...etc.. FOR FIRST NEED! Not ment to replace real food, but to simplify things and save lives (keeping people alive), at least until it proven to be working in any other situation.
About jobs? Every need demands fulfillment. Fulfillment is done by delivery. Delivery can have many forms: Basic production (farming, etc..) Trade .. Services .. Industry. All those need to have people doing it. As it would be in this case. Not to mention, Slovenia would have "prime achievement" in this field. And staggering production would be awaken again - we both know nowadays we only sell foreign products at home.
Uff. Hands hurt. Guess, ill have to take some vacation. There are others here now, lol. I dont have to write everything myself.
P.S: I am weak at chemistry. but i conclude this is NOT a difficult task to accomplish. Needs lot of testing though.
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 5, 2004 - 05:37 AM
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Doesn't this plasma skip the farming stage? I was kinda picturing it as a completely lab produced thing. Wouldn't it be kinda like the food astronauts take into space? I've seen that before...
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 5, 2004 - 05:43 AM
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yea, ur rite somehow, well let's think it would be somehow made of plants! tho you're rite, it would be produced in labs! but i guess we have to wait for kaiser---> the profesionallll! 
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 5, 2004 - 05:57 AM
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Kaiser -- what did you mean when you said
"Easy food - vegetarian one, and now unability to do heavy work. Certainly technology enables us to strive more for this second option." ??
Did you mean that vegetarians are unable to exert as much energy as meat-eaters? Because that's not true.
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 5, 2004 - 09:18 AM
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Sounds like it could save lots of lives!
It seems like complicated processing though to get the plasma in the first place. We'd need brand new factories and some fairly expensive equipment to produce it, wouldn't we? This would put the plasma monopoly into the hands of the wealthier countries. The good thing about regular old food is that even poor countries can be farmers and their product can be exported to support the countries economy. It wouldn't be a huge difference since food plasma wouldn't be entirely replacing food, but still its mostly a boon for industrial countries.
...Not trying to be negative, just playing devil's advocate!
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 5, 2004 - 09:39 AM
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no, i guess that plasma food would do great for the poor countries, kaiser mentioned farming, so the poor countries could do that and the expensve equipment would be held in the wealthier places.
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Re: Vegetarianism
July 7, 2004 - 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by butterfly-effect
Kaiser -- what did you mean when you said
"Easy food - vegetarian one, and now unability to do heavy work. Certainly technology enables us to strive more for this second option." ??
Did you mean that vegetarians are unable to exert as much energy as meat-eaters? Because that's not true.
I dont go for negativism, what else to hold in ideological power struggling - so i will not reply this question.
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