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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 2, 2004 - 12:48 PM
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greetings,
I am glad that this issue is being addressed.......... I am not disabled however, I've started learning ASL and I am now hardly able to connect to deaf people......... yes there are many times that people have funny interest in looking at disabled people and I cannot exclude myself 100% either........ but I thank BRIGHTEYES for including proper dealings......... I think I've been adhering to those
luv is luvluvluv is luvluv
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Participation In DPI World Summit
July 3, 2004 - 01:08 AM
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Hello TerriWillard,
Thank you So much for the post. How do I get to that "DPI World Summit". I want to participate but I afraid it might be costly for the travel and all. Can My participation be Sponsored . For your Information I had already attended as "Speaker" in EuroIndia2004 and presented "Information Technology Enabled for Differently abled". It was sponsored by European Commission.
http://www.euroindia2004.org/content/showactivity.asp?level0=1317&level1=1318&level2=1320&docid=9574
Since I could not have your contact mail I posted this request to you here.
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Dignified Sympathy
July 3, 2004 - 03:42 AM
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Hello kiran and April,
Here I want to add some more points on "Sympathy" towards disabled people. Since I am disabled, I experienced it. I just elaborate it. When I was in my final college days I asked my friends and juniors both girls and boys. What did you feel when you see my first time? .
They answered "At first site We felt sorry for you. out of sympathy we wanted to help you bcos you are disabled, over the period of time the sympathy level had reduced...we dont find any sympathy towards you..only friendship and we dont consider you as a disabled people". I was so happy for that answer.
It is unavoidable..Mostly people will try to show their sympathy towards disabled people. Actually it is not wrong. They may think that, thats the way to respond to disabled people. Atlast sympathy is Preliminary stage of True affection.
Accepting the "Dignified sympathy " is not a bad one.But by showing "sympathy" non-disabled people should not restrict disabled people activities.
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R.Selvakumar
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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 3, 2004 - 08:43 AM
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Hi Everyone...
Thanks for starting this issue...anyway, my club is organising an event " Working Towards IT Advancement for People with Disabilities" in my college...this event is open to all who are visually/hearing impaired, physically disabled, and people with learning disability.
Various activities will be held during the day of the event (on 19th August) such as mini forum " Is IT Education Edaquate for People with disabilities?". The speakers for this forum are represntative from the assosiation of the Blind, The Deaf, and Wheel Power. And also there will be games and creative arts competition, Workshop, and lastly a movie show for the Orphanage kids...well, i hope everything will run smoothly according to the plan.
Btw, udara2004 and Brighteyes i love your stories..can i use your stories as one of the articles in our editorial board for the event?
Thank You and God Bless!
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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 3, 2004 - 09:02 AM
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Thank you so much selvakumar for defining the "sympathy" to caring/friendship.
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April, when my father could not perform his manly dutys he would take mother to see h
July 4, 2004 - 04:38 AM
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er boy friend, the nite before Mother died she asked after I brought up that very same tale as if Mother could fool me if I thought there was a heaven and if I thought father was there she said, I want to see him. With All of My Love, me
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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 4, 2004 - 11:36 AM
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Well gene. I believe there is a heaven. Even if you dont, your mother maybe wanted humoring.
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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 5, 2004 - 02:29 AM
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Hi April333,
Thanks for raising an important point.
But, for me, its a very difficult thing to answer. The ehaviour of a person changes according to the situation and commenting on them without knowing the background is soemthing I dont like to do.
Originally posted by april333
Kiranmayeev. I would like to ask you something. You mentioned that the people who desregaurd or try to avoid their own "flaws" are disabled. Well i would like to know what you think about someone who is desabled acting like they are "healthy", fine. When they realize that they are, they just dont want people to worry about them or treat them like children.
Selvakumar. I like what you said about the sympathy turning into love. Well that can be true, but i think it could also go another way. Sometimes, simpathy can turn into resentment. Like a feeling of pity gone on too long. What would happen then? If a partner turns to resentment of their disabled partner's inability to be "Normal". The effects could be bad, its sad.
I would like to put out here a thing called bestbuddies. Its a program for non handicaped people to befriend a handicaped person. To help them learn and grow, and to give them a true friend without simpathy. The website is bestbuddies.org. There is also a branch of it that is emailing a mentally or physically handicapped person. The website for that is www.ebuddies.org. Its a good program.
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Dignified Sympathy
July 5, 2004 - 02:35 AM
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I agree with Selva in his views that by howing Synmpathy ativities of disabled people should not be restricted.
But, its happening many times. And a big example is sports. How many times is a disabled person given a chance to compete with everyone and show their talent?
And in Education, there is no consideration for disabled people while building departments or Labs. I have see and ehard the plight of these people, when they want to enter lab or clas. Some times, they cant even perform an experiment in the lab.
I feel that they deserve sympathy at such places, so that they can perform their ativities just like other students.
Originally posted by selvakumar
Hello kiran and April,
Here I want to add some more points on "Sympathy" towards disabled people. Since I am disabled, I experienced it. I just elaborate it. When I was in my final college days I asked my friends and juniors both girls and boys. What did you feel when you see my first time? .
They answered "At first site We felt sorry for you. out of sympathy we wanted to help you bcos you are disabled, over the period of time the sympathy level had reduced...we dont find any sympathy towards you..only friendship and we dont consider you as a disabled people". I was so happy for that answer.
It is unavoidable..Mostly people will try to show their sympathy towards disabled people. Actually it is not wrong. They may think that, thats the way to respond to disabled people. Atlast sympathy is Preliminary stage of True affection.
Accepting the "Dignified sympathy " is not a bad one.But by showing "sympathy" non-disabled people should not restrict disabled people activities.
with regards,
R.Selvakumar
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April, my mother died with a smile, I saw it as we placed her in a grave???????
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Dignified Sympathy
July 5, 2004 - 04:51 AM
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Kiran I appreciate your views of "Deserved sympathy". In my engineering Studies I had to attend Electrical lab in my college, my professor used to instruct the lab assitants to take care of me. But that was without my knowlegde. By doing this the proffessor had given the sympathy factor in a right mode.
with regards,
R.Selvakumar
Originally posted by kiranmayeev
I agree with Selva in his views that by howing Synmpathy ativities of disabled people should not be restricted.
But, its happening many times. And a big example is sports. How many times is a disabled person given a chance to compete with everyone and show their talent?
And in Education, there is no consideration for disabled people while building departments or Labs. I have see and ehard the plight of these people, when they want to enter lab or clas. Some times, they cant even perform an experiment in the lab.
I feel that they deserve sympathy at such places, so that they can perform their ativities just like other students.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by selvakumar
[B]Hello kiran and April,
Here I want to add some more points on "Sympathy" towards disabled people. Since I am disabled, I experienced it. I just elaborate it. When I was in my final college days I asked my friends and juniors both girls and boys. What did you feel when you see my first time? .
They answered "At first site We felt sorry for you. out of sympathy we wanted to help you bcos you are disabled, over the period of time the sympathy level had reduced...we dont find any sympathy towards you..only friendship and we dont consider you as a disabled people". I was so happy for that answer.
It is unavoidable..Mostly people will try to show their sympathy towards disabled people. Actually it is not wrong. They may think that, thats the way to respond to disabled people. Atlast sympathy is Preliminary stage of True affection.
Accepting the "Dignified sympathy " is not a bad one.But by showing "sympathy" non-disabled people should not restrict disabled people activities.
with regards,
R.Selvakumar
[/B][/QUOTE]
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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 5, 2004 - 06:29 AM
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One of my Second Cousins happens to be a Disabled person, both Hearing and Speech. He conveys his feelings in sign language and we learnt it for him. He is a remarkable genius, not just him, but his friends who are also like him. And when we meet, we all do enjoy the time together, have fun and here, no one has any sympathy towards them. Whle we had a difficulty in communicating with him as chldren, he joined the school where they teach Sign language and that helped him. And we learnt the language from him just to converse with him.
But, again, there is another Gal in our relatives, who is restricted to Wheel chair. She cannot move her body on her own, and its her mother who does the things for her. Bcause of this problem, and because there are no faclities for such people in eduation, she remained at home. Inspite of being a clever gal, she has to remain at home. People do sympthaise with her, but its of no use. It does not help her in leading her life the way she wants to. Nor is she aware of many things that happen outside. Her world is small, confined to the four walls of the house where she stays in. and sometimes, the words of Sympathy that are showered on her by neighbours are in such a way, that its hard to hear and digest them.
This type of Sympathy is unwanted in my view, If someone can help her in getting out to the world, make a mark of her own on her life, then, thats going to help her. It would increase her confidence.
Not all people are as fortunate as my cousin, who is now working as a Coputer Intructor at Bombay. And his life partner is one who is sailing in the same boat. The second one is at home, with no friends, no one to share her feelings , and some times feeling remorse for many treat her as a burden to her parents.
While both happen to be my second cousins,with diablities, thier tles are different. But, these tales, I am sure , can be seen every where in the world, irrespective of social status or how developed the country is.
Many times, its the support and encouragement that makes them go ahead, and this encouragement should come from all quaters of life. Including the Government. Facilites should be provided for them in such a way that they move with healthy people, but should never be isolated. Isolation makes things worse.
Any person, when made to feel that he/she is as normal as others and as special as others, will surely lead a happy life.Wahtever may be their longevity.
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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 5, 2004 - 08:20 AM
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Kiran,
the Encouragement should come from their parents. Had my parents not taken the pain I would not have become to this level. When I was between 10-17 my brothers [they are normal] used to spend more time with me.they take me whereever they go...u know I played cricket and all. Then my friends i am greateful to them...Yess..As u said "Encouragement" with equal "affection" is needed from every quarters.
with regards,
R.Selvakumar
Originally posted by kiranmayeev
One of my Second Cousins happens to be a Disabled person, both Hearing and Speech. He conveys his feelings in sign language and we learnt it for him. He is a remarkable genius, not just him, but his friends who are also like him. And when we meet, we all do enjoy the time together, have fun and here, no one has any sympathy towards them. Whle we had a difficulty in communicating with him as chldren, he joined the school where they teach Sign language and that helped him. And we learnt the language from him just to converse with him.
But, again, there is another Gal in our relatives, who is restricted to Wheel chair. She cannot move her body on her own, and its her mother who does the things for her. Bcause of this problem, and because there are no faclities for such people in eduation, she remained at home. Inspite of being a clever gal, she has to remain at home. People do sympthaise with her, but its of no use. It does not help her in leading her life the way she wants to. Nor is she aware of many things that happen outside. Her world is small, confined to the four walls of the house where she stays in. and sometimes, the words of Sympathy that are showered on her by neighbours are in such a way, that its hard to hear and digest them.
This type of Sympathy is unwanted in my view, If someone can help her in getting out to the world, make a mark of her own on her life, then, thats going to help her. It would increase her confidence.
Not all people are as fortunate as my cousin, who is now working as a Coputer Intructor at Bombay. And his life partner is one who is sailing in the same boat. The second one is at home, with no friends, no one to share her feelings , and some times feeling remorse for many treat her as a burden to her parents.
While both happen to be my second cousins,with diablities, thier tles are different. But, these tales, I am sure , can be seen every where in the world, irrespective of social status or how developed the country is.
Many times, its the support and encouragement that makes them go ahead, and this encouragement should come from all quaters of life. Including the Government. Facilites should be provided for them in such a way that they move with healthy people, but should never be isolated. Isolation makes things worse.
Any person, when made to feel that he/she is as normal as others and as special as others, will surely lead a happy life.Wahtever may be their longevity.
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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 5, 2004 - 09:06 AM
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kiran.
I understand what you mean, i dont make it a habit to guess what someone is thinking or anything about them. I was just guessing for once (dont guess ever).
Gene.
I'm glad your mother was smiling. I wish we could all go that way.
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Re: Undesrstanding Disabled people?
July 6, 2004 - 01:02 AM
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It is not only a matter of only understanding the disabled people, but also giving them all the opportunities to lead a happy life. There should be positive discrimination towards these people since it is not their fault if they are vulnerable. Anybody could have been in their place.
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