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Benjamin Esham
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Esperanto
June 5, 2004 - 09:52 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto is an artificial language constructed with the purpose of enabling people to communicate, even with vastly different cultural, ethnic, and linguistic backgrounds. It seems like a perfect fit for TiG, especially as the theme is language. So... are there any speakers here? Any aspiring speakers? (If you fall into the latter category, you may want to take a look at http://www.lernu.net.
(I've started to learn myself, but am not really fluent yet.)
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Sammy Vital
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Re: Esperanto
June 6, 2004 - 07:34 AM
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I read somewhere that esperanto is based semantically on different language. I also remember, from the same source, that esperanto is not that difficult to learn.
But what are the benefit of learning it ? English is more predominant.
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Martín Miguel Arias
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Prague Manifesto of the movement for the international language Esperanto
June 9, 2004 - 06:50 AM
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I want to contribute with this discussion referred to the language Esperanto, it is for that reason that I provide you the following information. These are some of the topics that it embraces this document: DEMOCRACY - GLOBAL EDUCATION - EFFECTIVE EDUCATION - MULTILINGUALISM - LANGUAGE RIGHTS - LANGUAGE DIVERSITY - HUMAN EMANCIPATION.
You can consult this link: www.esperanto.se/dok/praguemanifesto.html
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Anna Yershova
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Re: Esperanto
June 15, 2004 - 12:30 PM
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I know that there are lots of people around the world who enjoy studying Esperanto. They have their own clubs, conduct their meetings, and try to popularize this language. Esperanto was designed to be easy and simple to learns, without hard grammar. (It's based on only 16 rules; gosh, I wish English were that easy!)
I think the idea itself - to create the language that is easy enough so everybody could learn it - is great. But I seriously doubt it's achievable. The languages we speak are the parts of our identity; they are the parts of the histories of our countries... People in different countries can't even agree on sharing tha land, so would they all agree to speak one language?....
I don't think Esperanto would fit this website - once again, the idea is great, but it's hardly doable. Since there are more people that speak English out there than there are people that can speak Esperanto, it would be hard to achieve a goal of popularizing this website. After spending some years studying English, it would be hard for one to start studying Esperanto just to use on the website.
If I had more time, I'd certainly wanted to study Esperanto - it seems to be a good way to find international friends. I bet people who are studying it learn more about the cultures of people who are sharing this interest; I'm also quite sure that people who are studying it do so because they want to achieve the world piece. It's a great mission, and it's wonderful that there is an opportunity to contribute to the mutual understanding through studying Esperanto. However, we have to remember that we live in a real modern world, where English is getting more and more popular.
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Brian
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Esperanto
July 8, 2004 - 03:29 AM
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I have been speaking and using Esperanto for more than 50 years now, so I think I know at least a little about it. If you really want information about it, then just Google "+Vancouver+Esperanto" for some basic facts. I'd like to respond to some of the comments made so far:<P>
- bdeshan used the term 'artificial' - this is incorrect. Eo [to use the official language abbreviation] is correctly called 'constructed' or 'planned'. 'Artificial' implies that the language was constructed out of thin air. This is not so. Almost all the roots used in the language are extracted from already existing ethnic languages on the basis of 'maximum internationality'. The grammar has been minimalized and regularized. This does not mean that Eo is 'baby talk'. Listen to a daily broadcast in Esperanto from Radio Polonia to hear what it sounds like in use. (The origin of Eo becomes totally irrelevant when you speak it fluently).<P>
-Sami in Tunis correctly says that English is more predominant. This misses the point. People who use Eo come to it of their own free will, usually after much thought. They are not forced to use it, explicitly or implicitly, for commercial or other reasons. They do not accept being linguistically colonized by 8% of the world (i.e. US & UK native-speakers), and made into clients of this group. ESL is now a very profitable world-wide industry for all English-speaking countries. In my own city, much expensive downtown real estate is now occupied by English-language schools. Who pays for this? YOU second- & third-world people who willingly fork out all your money for these outrageously expensive courses! Why do you accept this without protest? Another point: the weight of English has already crushed my small ethnic group into oblivion, and is now destroying most N. American indigenous languages.<P>
-AnnaYershova also misses another point. Esperanto is intended only to be a common SECOND language - we think there should be universal bilingualism. That way nobody gives up anything (except native English-speakers who lose the privileged position that they now enjoy, but have not earned). Eo is only to be used for inter-ethnic contacts, putting everyone on the same level linguistic playing field. Communication becomes omni-directional - not just from English-language sources. Mono-lingual myopia is a disease which affects most native English-speakers - that's partly why one rarely reads anything positive, if at all, about Eo in the English-language media.<P>
mankso<P>
http://esperanto.memlink.ca <P>
http://www.esperanto.net [info in 57 languages!]
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Shoma
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Re: Esperanto
September 26, 2004 - 02:55 AM
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I've always loved learning new languages, so this site is a real treat for me. Thank you 
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Equal language rights
September 29, 2005 - 04:32 AM
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Quite incredible that a year has now gone by and there seems to be so little interest in the subject of equal language rights and Esperanto. In the meantime the 90th annual World Esperanto Congress has taken place in Vilnius/Lithuania, attended by 2344 people from 62 different countries, all successfully speaking Esperanto together - so much for Anna Yershova's idea that nobody speaks Esperanto! Perhaps the English-language media, which totally ignored it, is partly to blame for this abysmal ignorance? Russian-language media reported on it though. Anyway, read all about it here:
http://www.esperanto.lt/uk2005/
Next year the same thing will be repeated in July in Florence/Firenze, Italy:
http://www.ukflorenco2006.it/
And here is the website of the World Esperanto Youth Organization:
http://www.tejo.org/
and of the Prague Manifesto:
http://www.esperanto.se/dok/praguemanifesto.html
What other more relevant arguments against Esperanto can someone please come up with?
mankso
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Re: Esperanto
October 7, 2005 - 07:53 AM
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I also checked a website where they were teaching Esperanto and it's really nice to learn it. It's kinda similar to portuguese, so it's easy to learn. I recommend it to everyone!
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Re: Esperanto
October 7, 2005 - 11:00 AM
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I have known about Esperanto for a long time. But it seems that this language is not popular in Vietnam. I'm very curious about it but I wonder if learnig it can destroy my English because I have heard that its rule is so simple.
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Esperanto in Vietnam
October 8, 2005 - 12:31 PM
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Littleduck:
If you are seriously interested, then I suggest you contact the Vietnamese Esperanto Association in Hanoi at <viesperas> They have more than 600 paid-up members listed, and put out a quarterly review.
I doubt that learning Esperanto will affect your English - in fact, it will probably give you a clearer understanding of basic English grammar, and make you realize just how complicated English is (if you didn't already know that!).
If you need more info, please contact me privately. Good luck!
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