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Shawn Gulati
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Taking It Local!
June 13, 2002 - 01:19 AM
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Lets break the age old question...how do we get our peers involved with what we do. I know most of you are shy to do that, because you fear that friends are not into this. I know what you mean, but maybe a school club, or a community charity? I would almost be 100% sure that if you arranged volunteering in a local hospital/camp you will find people who want to help and get involved. Get them into your organization and you will only grow from there. Locally, you may only achieve friends, and some random people who are interested, but think on a bigger scale, help take part in national projects....you never know where youll get.
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it s a desciptive question
June 15, 2002 - 04:54 AM
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I think we should haev a seminar on this. Coz it is too log and vast to answer.
I think we haev lots to say about it. It is ambigious.
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Well.
June 20, 2002 - 07:16 AM
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Well I happen to think getting involved in TIG is easy. Im sitting at my computer, behind my keyboard - and managing quite easily to take part.
I think thats why TIG is so great. You can put as much input into as you want, and what you get out of it is so vast and important its hard to compare it with any other feeling.
Perhaps we need to publicise how much you'll get out of so little to the masses, maybe that way we can convince them to take a shot at it.
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Re: Taking It Local!
June 20, 2002 - 07:28 AM
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perhaps if you gave a better idea of how ppl are and can be involved. I for one am technically involved but i haven't done anything and find it frusterating because i want to do much more but don't know how.
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Livia
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Re: Taking It Local!
July 1, 2002 - 04:55 AM
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how to get peer involvement..I think that thsi ultimately depends on many different factors: the perseverence of the peers (i.e. how willing they are to get involved) and the subject at hand. These are also what I find are important ingredients to success: the idea & the people that make it happen. There are many teens that would rather sit and watch TV, or listen to the same CDs over and over or shop aimlessly in the mall and this defines 'entertainment' for them; and although this is good recreation at times, I personally believe it shouldn't characterize daily teen life. However, if this is the case - that some teens don't care or have the passion to make a difference, then maybe we should try then to target the people that care? This would actually be an interesting debate and probably is addressed by marketing people for organizations - if our target market is "teens", then should we limit our focus or broaden it? Should we include teens that are originally not interested in contributing to success, or should we try to find those that have an innate passion for involvement?
Yet, a further issue would be to look at the numbers - how many teens actually do care? If it's only 10-20% now (I'm just throwing numbers, don't actually know) then maybe it's necessary to attract people who don't initially care to build a bigger foundation? Yet, would TIG rather have a small, committed group of people, or a large structure composed of half-hearted individuals as well, or those in the process of learning? These are questions that should be addressed and will help you narrow your focus. 
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10% - 20% is about right
July 2, 2002 - 07:53 AM
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Actually, in most organizations, you will have members who pay dues and attend meetings. However, only 10% to 20% of the members will volunteer to organize the meetings or other activities. In fact, groups I have belonged to in the past (and those I am in now) are lucky to break 15%.
Fortunately, you can do a great deal with just a few dedicated people.
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Stefan Mandic-Rajcevic
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Maybe a solution
July 22, 2002 - 01:38 AM
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The problem in my country is that young people are so opsessed with gaining something from the actions they take, and are not prepared to give anything. There are many youth organizations, but the only reason young people get involved is they hope they will have the chance to travel (which is understandable...).
The solution might be to find a group of people who are 100% interested into doing something useful, and not letting the percentage change, by accepting new members who are joining only for their own wellfare. There may be just five of you, but that group will work better than a group of 500, or 5000. Unfortunately, we have to sacrifise a lot of our time, but if we have a vision, or at least an idea, everything will go much easier.
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Stefan Mandic-Rajcevic
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where to start
July 24, 2002 - 03:26 AM
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I think what dltq said makes lots of sense. But there is always a problem, at least I have that problem...
Where do we start???
What can we do to make a difference. After that first step, everything goes much easier. But, we still have to make it (the first step).
I would find it very useful, since many of you are in successfull organizations, and you have a lot of experience with this kind of work, if you would write (here, or anywhere else) what was your first step. It is not so hard to find a group of people, but what will that group do???
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Re: Taking It Local!
July 24, 2002 - 06:12 AM
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I just found this thread again, interesting points coming from several individuals.
Rsmarg is right about the figures in my experience. And with the conclusion that with even a few dedicated people you can do a lot.
The funny thing is, and this idea I have approached SO many places, that people think that it takes a mass of people to get something done. In Norway we have this saying "for mange kokker ødelegger maten" - that is, too many cooks spoils the food. (I guess it is an international saying?) If we think about the abilities of a few individuals (think Bill Gates, or Dalai Lama, or Mike here at TIG), it is obvious to us that a few people can really make a change. In some cases, yes, these individuals are very priviliged, and this might lead others to think that oh no I cannot do this, I don't live in the West, or I don't have rich parents, or I have to work all day so I don't have time to do this.
I believe in the Individual, and as such I am more focused on what the Individuals are doing than for instance how many members there are of this or that movement. If we think about it, there is No guarantee that just because there are a lot of members, there is a lot of action going on, or there being created good Quality. (in a Pirsig sense of the word Quality).
Stefan-YU proposed the establishing of a (new) group of only 100% dedicated people. I am not sure if this is necessary. Even within a wide and diverse group like TIG, it is possible to create new loose groups, based on a certain topic or interest or even personal chemistry. One could then give this subgroup a name, get a homepage at geocities or whatever where one can express ones findings/work, and then take things from there.
I have found within my own that unless I am surrounded by people who have Some interest in the things that interest me, it is hard for me to get really involved in a group or be active on my own. I guess I need a small group where one can work together with the issues. In this way, we are very different.
idea: Let's share how we can Practically get involved in our own community. Not just general blabla "Get involved, do something", but really down-to-earth good solid examples of how You have done it, made a new movement, joined an existing one, or yourself made a change in your community.
We must remember that it cannot only be about how we get Our peers involved in our own projects. To others, we are also Their peers, and there are already hundreds of others who are screaming for our attention, our ideas and our participation.
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Stefan..
August 6, 2002 - 08:22 AM
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I think one of the things that comes with taking action on something is the inevitable want for the result sooner and easier than what may be achievable. Often in long, strung out movements (like world peace for example!) many people get caught up in it, but when it comes to the crunch they are quite prepared to live with incredible compromises (not decent ones, that is) and waver between their personal and otherly idealogical needs.
I dont know how much you know, or how much you appreciate the actions of OTPOR in your country in resisting the Milosevic regime. But, we all have to look beyond that and examine how it was that they achieved what they did.
Which was in effect nothing short of inciting resistance among young people and helping to spread the word in the final days of the revolution.
I think we start with our passions, and develop a network of young people who are tolerant of each others way of thinking, and apply the notions and concepts behind that into a way of living that reflects the values of the network and the people that make it what it is. And the source of the network? - TIG.
TIG is, whatever you make it.
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Re: Taking It Local!
August 6, 2002 - 12:01 PM
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ok i suck in saying things short.
For those of you who want to read my post which was of more than 10000 characters (and thus could not be posted here), you can reach it here. It is in .txt format so all the links I added will be written out as code. Oh well
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Taking it local
August 29, 2002 - 09:19 AM
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If we allow youth to create and plan their own programs, then maybe there will be more of an intrest.
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Perhaps.
August 30, 2002 - 05:17 AM
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Perhaps that will generate more interest.
But again, we have to be weary of allowing ourselves to get caught up in the drawing of the map to the mountain of change, and forgetting what it is we REALLY need to ready ourselves with in order to reach its peak.
Our action.
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