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Aarti Kumar
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Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
May 19, 2004 - 11:53 AM
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There are many issues in this world let alone the ones of our own community, which makes it very difficult to know where to commence. No country is perfect, since they all have areas that can be improved. However, it is difficult to ignore the fact that some countries fail to provide basic human rights for their people. Why is this too much to ask for? Those who dream of helping children do not dream to give them video games, or an excess of toys, but simple basic human rights. For some reason this dream seems unmovable to others.
What are your views in basic human rights not being met in some countries and what should we do to ensure they are met one day?
(hopefully this post has not been done before, but even if it has, it would be nice to see what you all have to say!)
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
May 20, 2004 - 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by Aarti
What are your views in basic human rights not being met in some countries and what should we do to ensure they are met one day?
Well... I am of the opinion that people everywhere have the ability to solve their own problems. It may take a longer while in some parts of the world, but that doesn't necessarily mean that people are unaware of the problems they face and aren't doing anything about it.
In order to offer help of any kind... be it humanitarian or even otherwise... it is essential to understand the culture of the people who are to be helped.
I believe the only place each one of us can really ensure that Human Rights are respected is our own backyard, and our best chance to let that happen everywhere... is to generate awareness among people!
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
May 20, 2004 - 12:56 PM
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greetings AARTI
I am glad you are starting this thread
it is really sad that some countries do not provide/ ensure basic human rights
you know, I have already given up on the UN since they are so incapable of acting on their mission statement
I think that people in each country must learn that their lives are not controlled by arbitrary governments that just serve the government itself. People must learn to fight for their rights and act on their rights even if they are few rights. A government is nothing without the people. So only the people of the respective country can make the real difference. No intenational decree will ensure or can force a country to abide by the decree. It didn't work before why and how should it work now.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
May 24, 2004 - 11:55 AM
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glueckskind, I understand it is difficult for people of other nationalities/faiths etc to barge in and make changes. The people that live in these countries are the main driving force in this equation. However I still feel as if we (North America) are in many ways enabling these countries to progress. Perhaps their government is not the only problemo!
greyarmadill, I dont believe everyone has the ability solve their own problems, a three year old child in Calcutta is not quite sure what she did to be in that position to be able to solve it. I agree that awareness in our own community is great, but in my opinion its only a start. What if our own backyard is sufficient enough to focus on areas that are devastatingly in need of progress? I think instead of trying to perfect our own backyards we should look outside to make things slightly more equal. I find it difficult to fight for issues regarding recycling, marijuana legalization, and traffic control (not to say these are not important issues, they are just not as important as human rights in poorer countries) when I am not desensitized to what is occurring half way across the world.
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What are your views in basic human rights not being met in some countries and what sh
June 1, 2004 - 10:11 AM
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My view in respect to you write up it as follows,
I believe evry contry has a government, and the purpose of this body is to make sure that human right is provided to all its citizenry, right to every benefit of being a citizen, but truelly harly do one see ths happening, my main concern in this is the education aspect of it. Alot of countries are really lacking behind in this field, and this has served as a draw back to these contries development.
Many are the promises ever made by govt, for example my own country but noe is ever taking to effect cos the purpose s lost.
Another thing I think is the attitude of citizens, are they really ready, I think despite the resposibilities of the govt, the citizens some atimes are never ready to go for the best in their lives.
The solution to this issue "problem" is education on the citizens and readiness on the govt. to make sure that this things are pu in place because power lies on them.
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
June 1, 2004 - 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Aarti
greyarmadill, I dont believe everyone has the ability solve their own problems, a three year old child in Calcutta is not quite sure what she did to be in that position to be able to solve it. I agree that awareness in our own community is great, but in my opinion its only a start. What if our own backyard is sufficient enough to focus on areas that are devastatingly in need of progress? I think instead of trying to perfect our own backyards we should look outside to make things slightly more equal. I find it difficult to fight for issues regarding recycling, marijuana legalization, and traffic control (not to say these are not important issues, they are just not as important as human rights in poorer countries) when I am not desensitized to what is occurring half way across the world.
Well... I am opposed to any kind of International Interference anywhere vis-a-vis Human Rights. I guess Governments all over the world have a fair idea of what would happen if they cross limits and hurt the interests of the very people they are formulated to serve!!! There is a limit to tolerance, beyond which all hell breaks loose, quite literally!
As for kids in Kolkatta... I believe that there are enough people in Kolkatta who are concerned about their welfare, and they have the ability to do the needful. All it takes is some time... and awareness as to how to use the resources available at hand.
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
June 1, 2004 - 11:43 AM
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Onenlaw, what kind of promises has your government made for your country that never followed through? So basically you feel if these individuals were educated they would be able to mold their attitude toward change? also does the government see that these people do not adhere to such changes and therefore revert back to its previous rules and regulations? Sorry im asking so many questions! im just very interested in this!
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
June 1, 2004 - 12:03 PM
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greyarmadillo,
Every concern that comes from outside of ones border does not have to be viewed as an interference. I understand that most of the issues many countries deal with are primarily do to richer countries interfering. However I do not view caring and really wanting to donate time and money to construct a just society for people as interfering. The biggest problem here is that some people focus too much on the imaginary borders that outline their country and dont realize that the connectivity of the world means something as well. I do not weight issues more important to me because I live there rather I weight the issues more heavily because they simply are more important issues!
As you may think there is a limit to tolerance some may think there is no room for tolerance. Nobody should have to come to the point to tolerate a situation, and nobody should have to be tolerated!
-"Governments all over the world have a fair idea of what would happen if they cross limits and hurt the interests of the very people they are formulated to serve!!! "
If this were the case then why are we dealing with mass amounts of poverty, pollution, illiteracy, injustice regarding the caste system, female oppression, and discrimination against race, language and religion in some countries far more than others?
I think there is never enough people who care. It is like thinking of a rain forest and saying well enough people care about that rain forest for it for it to be saved but 1 person can come along and not have any concern for that rainforest (by polluting, or part of a logging company etc) and set people one step backwards on their mission of saving this rainforest (okay bad analogy!). I think we need large numbers of people to really make a statement and make it clear that this is not the way people should be treated.
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
June 2, 2004 - 03:24 AM
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Basic human rights ought to be enjoyed by each himan being on the planet this isa in reference to the declaration of human rights 1948. I believe each courntry has a bil of rights etched into its constitution. This show commitment by the leaders/bosses depending on the state to uphold dignity of the person. But we sometimes deny ourselves these basic rights by allowing ourselve be bellitled. It is for all of us to fight for our rights
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
June 9, 2004 - 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by Aarti
greyarmadillo,
Every concern that comes from outside of ones border does not have to be viewed as an interference. I understand that most of the issues many countries deal with are primarily do to richer countries interfering. However I do not view caring and really wanting to donate time and money to construct a just society for people as interfering. The biggest problem here is that some people focus too much on the imaginary borders that outline their country and dont realize that the connectivity of the world means something as well. I do not weight issues more important to me because I live there rather I weight the issues more heavily because they simply are more important issues!
I agree that every concern coming from an alien nation need not necessarily be considered as interference... yet there is just a thin line that seperates aid and interference, and in most cases seen around the world one cannot really differentiate between the two.
Let me reiterate my point in your words... for I guess you still haven't understood what I am trying to say... the onus of creating a so-called just society lies with the people who are part of the society. Others can at best share their ideas through a meaningful cultural exchange... and thats just about it. You cannot make people do what doesn't come naturally to them... for if you do... you have a conflict on your hands and you end up making things worse than ever before.
As for borders... they are more than just imaginary lines, as people around the world are essentially different it is these borders that give them a sense of security and an identity of their own. If you respect the human rights of an individual then you must respect these International Borders as well.
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Re: Are basic human rights too much to ask for?
June 10, 2004 - 12:44 PM
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I think intentions differentiate that thin membrane that separates interference and assistance.
I understood completely what you were saying! However I still disagree. No one suggested making anyone do anything! The main point was to stimulate social progress through cultural exchange as you said. I think it should be natural for the government to ensure the well being of people living in their nation, I don’t think its natural for many people to change their way of life, not being able to foreshadow what is to come. But I do think its possible for them to want to see their children escape this cycle of poverty and make efforts to change their society. For example I understand that a lot of children are not attending school simply because their parents need another set of working hands, however if they are convinced that education could benefit their whole family, perhaps they would change their mind. I do not live a day-to-day life style because I have the luxury not to, and I know that these individuals usually are not thinking of long-term goals. But I think with the right ingredient we can get these people to believe in the power of knowledge.
Culturally we differ from one another, but that does not eliminate the similarity of us all being human! Borders do provide security for some, but for others they are reasons not to care beyond their own border, and that is the when they become invisible to me.
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