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Abdallah Diwan
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Abu Gharib Prison
May 11, 2004 - 10:03 AM
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Do u think this fair ??????
don't you think that killing forgeine Armies is so Justified now ????? ofcourse revenge now is the only way for protection now. is every one going to wait looking on that without moveing. I am really shoked why our leaders didnt do any single move till now, and by the way i really belive we are coming next? as Seria is coming next too , till when will we keep idiots like Bush do that in our families ??? and for muslims like us. is that justified ? is that the freedom they were talking about ?
http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444
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...three thousand things...
May 11, 2004 - 10:32 AM
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...the war in Iraq and the reconstruction of its country is a long-awaited action for the U.S. There's a lot of money and power involved that I wish would just subside...as an American, little reliable news information is offered for mass distribution and what I mean by reliable is truthful...I wonder to myself if this is the first time that such atrocities have occured between the countries, but I know that's not true...how do we fight wars now? It's not about land or power or money--it is--but moreso it's about spreading America across the globe...to me, that's scary because our own democracy is corrupt...I hope that this mass globalization doesn't spread...
I get the feeling that if Bush is re-elected, the end of the world with occur too soon...
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
May 11, 2004 - 10:45 AM
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Great to hear voices against American injustice!
This is nothing more than the jungle law, powerful
terrorizing the helpless.
Udara
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The Real Evildoers...American Troops
May 12, 2004 - 01:11 AM
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"No more torture chambers and rape rooms. The tyrant will soon be gone"... ... ... It sounds familiar, is not it? These are the very same words came out of the Iraq War EXCUSES STOCK of the PEACE-LOVING, ANTI-WAR,THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LEADER and PRESIDENT, who till this very same moment supported by 46% Americans in the recent polls carried out by the CNN... MR.GEORGE W. BUSH.
So, it seems that Americans are not worlds away from being Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, or Hussein`s Iraq, and one clear cut evidence is that still 46% of the Americans support Bush.
There is a long list to go through for the Americans if they want to know the reason for the growing Anti-America in the world nowadays, wish they will take the necessary measures, otherwise...
It Will Just BLOW UP, I wonder if is not already.
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
May 16, 2004 - 02:40 AM
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I told you all how things are to the last detail. Did anybody listened back in the days?
NO! Thread went unanswered into history. And now this is a surprise, to see them on TV.
There are plenty more things to be exposed to the public, but this time not from me. Violence is against my religion.
Ave Futuria: Freedom ! Equality ! Progress !
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Brian
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
May 18, 2004 - 10:14 AM
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Prison abuses are wrong. So is revenge because it only makes violence escalate and leads to chaos. Apparently our prison system in the US has similar problems. The solution? I'm not sure but I do know that killing for revenge will not solve anything. The greatest movements for real change have been non-violent. Ghandi and Martin Luther King and examples of this. Revenge killing will just give Bush even more excuse to send more troops. Believe me, he doesn't need any more excuses!He has plenty and they are mostly lies.
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Ray Ovac
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
May 18, 2004 - 10:33 AM
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"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
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Udara
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
June 11, 2004 - 12:29 PM
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>"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Very true,
Allow me to append a supplement!
Let he who is without sin cast the first BOMB!
I hope your USA would consider this next time when they bomb another country!
Udara
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
June 11, 2004 - 12:32 PM
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Ray. And then you wake yourself up and find yourself in different country. Nobody's innocent. You thhought that your people are, but now you know they were not for long time.
Ave Futuria
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
June 12, 2004 - 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by kaiser
Ray. And then you wake yourself up and find yourself in different country. Nobody's innocent. You thhought that your people are, but now you know they were not for long time.
Ave Futuria
I don't think that I ever said that. In fact, I think that my comment conceded that the US was not "without sin". What I was suggesting was that similar acts had been committed by others and yet somehow we at illiustrate only what the US did...there is a common theme here.
Also, with respect to Udara's comment about "casting the first 'bomb'", I would argue the same point. Is the US the only nation to use force to achieve its goals? This is the nature of war...it's full of sin. However, if the goals for an action, when achieved, serve to prevent futher and greater loss, it need to be a realistic option.
As for me, I will be glad to articulate all of the times in our history (and recently) when the US acted in a very "non - innocent" manner. I am not asleep...I am, however, surprised at the level of animosity toward the US without any regard for balancing our sins with our good deeds. Nobody here, likely, will be able to (in any detail) describe what the US *has* done in recent years to the benefit of others...so, who is actually "asleep" and caught in the rapture of a "evil US" dream.
God Bless
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
June 28, 2004 - 02:00 AM
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Rush who?
http://www.airamericaradio.com/pub/globalDefault.htm
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
June 28, 2004 - 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by udara2004
>"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Very true,
Allow me to append a supplement!
Let he who is without sin cast the first BOMB!
Udara
LoL, HaaHaaaaaaaaaaaaa. it's a good one Udara; How did I missed it for so long..
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
June 28, 2004 - 10:20 AM
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you all act as if these prisoner abuse "scandals" are the newest thing to happen to war. Other than the War thats it always talked about WWII,its happened in every war previous to it, it just that this war has been covered so much by the media it was inevitable. Stuff like this happenes in every war.
The liberal media here in the U.S. loves it though! Why do you think the prisoner abuse ran on the L.A. Times front page an unprecidented 53/55 days.
I'm gonna go out on a limb say it right now to all of you partisan left wingers that have come to this website and have blaimed Bush for everything and including things that haven't even happened yet that the only reason why these Prisoner Abuse Photos are being shown and talked about so much is so that if Bush is reelected this is an issue to impeach him.
Rush Limbaugh is the man, get smater and listen to him
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
June 29, 2004 - 04:27 AM
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Recently GWB said they would want to tear down the Abu Ghraib prison. NOT NICE!
Abu Ghraib is a place, where crimes were comitted and as such it is valued as a scenery of a crime and is a "witness" in a trial pending.
Ave Futuria
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Re: Abu Gharib Prison
June 29, 2004 - 04:30 AM
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BTW: Abu Ghraib incidents would be great to be trialed on ICC (International Ciminal Court). If only USA administration would acknowledge it. And if now sovereign (??) Iraqi govt wanted to drive those men to court, would be able to do so ASAP.
Ave Futuria
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