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Gina
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Capitol Punishment
May 8, 2002 - 06:11 AM
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Even though I am against capitol Punishment, I am open to all points of view. I am doing a debate in school and am wondering what people's opinions of it are. Also, if you know any good places to get info, please post them!!
Thanx, Gina
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well I think...
May 14, 2002 - 07:18 AM
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My opinion is that it's an appropriate punishment when it fits the crime, ie. serial killer, or child rapist. The type of people you'll never want to lay eyes on again. But then there are times when innocent people get put to death today even with our 'perfect' system of laws.
I think if all signs point to guilty then use it yes. Because for some people solitary confinment and loss of interaction with the outside world really isn't a hinderance at all. Some sickos that preform these crimes spend most of their lives skulking around towns anyway, so they don't really care.
Sometimes the only thing that fits is killing the problem.
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Just so Ya Know......
May 14, 2002 - 11:22 AM
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what your saying holds some truth, but I have had to do research on this and, just so you know, nation wide- 68% of the people MURDERED on death row are innocent!!!! Well, that's some food for thought! And also, can you belive they will still hang people!
Now what do you think of are system?
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Well
May 16, 2002 - 03:21 AM
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I took a 'on the fence' type view of it, so I think that it's pretty disgusting all those innocent people had died for something they didn't do?
Hmmm hanging still? Let me guess Texas? Maybe they've gotten bored with the lethal injection, hehe LOL. Really though where too?
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Absolutely, Positively No Subject- - Just Random Thoughts:)
May 16, 2002 - 08:04 AM
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I kinda stretched it... there have only been about 2 or 3 or 4 hangings- but that is still really gross.
My debate partners that are for the death penalty found some gory stuff (including cannobolism...need I say more) and some of these really scary people are not even in jail and are people that are so lost nothing could bring them back.
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Re: Capitol Punishment
May 16, 2002 - 08:56 AM
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I thought that it was interesting that you put up this subject because as you might or might not know that recently there was a special united nations meeting on childrens and children's affairs. And one of the topics of attention was the fact the united states are the only country in the world that allows children to be penalised with the death penality.
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OMG!!!
May 16, 2002 - 09:48 AM
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I can't believe that- that's pretty bad! Do you know what was said to the US about that?
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Re: Capitol Punishment
May 16, 2002 - 09:51 AM
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P.S. you never told me your opinion on Capitol Punishment..
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punishment?
May 19, 2002 - 01:49 AM
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I think it was Jean Paul Sartre the philosopher who spent years of his life working for the rights of the people who are in prison, and this was in France, where they don't put people/criminals to death by injection or other methods.
To be frank, I find capital punishment insulting to the human race. If a guy has gone mad and killed his wife, does it make the world Better to kill him? Or child rapists? There is the whole view here on punishment which I cannot agree with. The view that by punishing, or killing the individual, we are either 1) proving an example for others, so that people who for instance think about killing someone would get on better thoughts after thinking "Oh, I might die if I get caught for this" 2) making the person better/reformed, or 3) making life better for the rest of the world because now that this monster is punished by being put behind bars or killed, we don't have this monster among us anymore.
I am not saying that some guy who rapes children or kills people should be let alone and not punished at all. But the question is, should we let some revenge drive within us control how we treat other people? As I see it, revenge is a primitive emotion in man, and we must go further than this. Revenge is what Mostly (not always, Mostly) leads to some sort of extremism, fanatism, and this is what causes for instance some people to think that hijacking aeroplanes and driving them into buildings filled with civilians is an OK thing.
Bloodlust is primitive, and we must get over it.
Of course, I can understand the relatives of a victim who got killed by some madman on the run. But the question here is, what will Help the situation? Will hate be vanquished by adding more hate into the pool?
Capital punishment is, I believe, not the best solution to the problem, which in its Basis, is about people have a disturbed mentality. My thesis is that anyone who kills another person is in some way mentally ill At That Moment.
At http://www.capc.org I found this quote, which I will share with you:
"Capital punishment feeds the cycle of violence in society by pandering to a lust for revenge. It brutalizes us, and deadens our sensitivities to the precious nature of every single human life."
-- Most Rev. David B. Thompson, Bishop of Charleston, S.C., December 3, 1998
that's some of my thoughts on this, sorry for it being so nonstructured =)
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What you Said..........
May 19, 2002 - 03:08 AM
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everything that you said is completely true.......but in some very extreme cases, whatever it was that triggered the murderers need to kill can not be rehabilitated, solitary confinement would be pointless if the person wants to be seperated from society anyway, and in those cases of like i said some cannabolistic freak eating his vistims or mass murderer- then maybe that is the only solution. Then again they would get out while family must suffer the loss of a loved one and perhaps dealing w/ guilt from not noticing or something.
*************sorry if that seemed a little gory for those w/ weak stomaches*********************
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What's Gross
May 22, 2002 - 06:14 AM
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what's i think is a negative about the death penalty is that it is a way of satisfying or thirst for revenge.....w/ Timothy McVeigh, is that people wanted to watch the execution live.
and, in most cases, prison workers have to do the job b/c no matter what people say, no one wants to be responsible for it.
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Re: Capitol Punishment
May 22, 2002 - 08:31 AM
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I personaly think that the death penalty is wrong. Death in every sense is hard enough but to think that exicuting someone for a crime is going to solve anything does not make sense. I do not see how it helps the mouring family. The death of the criminal can not bring back their loved ones. I think that by showing compasion we become the better people. All un-natural death is a waste but I do not see it comming to an end soon mores the pitty......just my thoughts.
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Re: What's Gross
May 23, 2002 - 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by PixieStix
what's i think is a negative about the death penalty is that it is a way of satisfying or thirst for revenge.....w/ Timothy McVeigh, is that people wanted to watch the execution live.
and, in most cases, prison workers have to do the job b/c no matter what people say, no one wants to be responsible for it.
I completely agree. I think its sick and sadistic if someone wants to watch an execution live. But, none of us, well barely any of us, can even begin to comprehend the feelings the families must go through. Im not saying Timothy McVeigh's execution should have been the media circus it was, all Im saying is that in my opinion some crimes deserve such a punishment.
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Exactly!!
May 23, 2002 - 07:21 AM
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i think that capitol punishment should only be used in REALLY, REALLY, REALLY severe cases of people who absolutely can not be rehabilited and r people who r like "if i get the chance, i would gladly do it again"...then i guess so....but like i said, only severe causes.
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Capitol Puunishment
March 30, 2003 - 11:50 AM
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I am not sure whether I am for or against Capitol Punishment. However, I do feel that just because one has taken another ones life; doesnt give any one person or group of person to take the life of another. I also feel that if you commit a crime you should to the time. Some criminals dont know how to act in the "real world" they can only handle the prison world. I do think that something drastic should happen to those who commit murder.
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