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You are wrong please visit my sites and you will see...
March 6, 2004 - 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by taikod
If anyone wants to know where the ideas in Aime-NLLL-Olenga's posting are coming from ... They are based on work done by David Horowitz (http://www.tetrahedron.org/news/NR010708.html). He is a very controversial speaker and writer with a long list of university degrees. But, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's TRUTH.
Please don't get me wrong I use information whenever I find it because my life is studying, studying, studying 24x7x367 to stay alive.
So please check some of these to refresh your brain
the first five are connected to myself:
http://www.ankheburan.com
http://www.ankhufurha.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Aime-NLLL_Olenga/
http://www.geocities.com/arkheburan/
http://pub34.ezboard.com/bmaamayanagadzikaa
And these ones I like just to check the flow
http://www.disinfo.com/site/
http://www.davidicke.com
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/index.htm
http://www.maafa.org/
Just to put few I could fill many pages with addresses if I wanted to but I want you to know that the site you posted I never went there. Because myself as a person working with people who are having to deal with AIDS and HIV in their everyday I learnt a lot.
Many people do not have AIDS or HIV from sex many people and infants are contaminated by the medical system that gives them contaminated blood so dear, you better watch what you say because I could be very rough if you push me to.
I read a lot anthropological books and all the books that don't please the mainstream because I know they convey the true that the official version want to hide.
Please remember one thing I am in the same hemisphere as yourself I know better Canadians especially the Kaukazians and their ways. They are nice in front of you while they are deadly and do whatever it takes to have you down forever as the bible and koran have taken our personality, humanity and all the rights.
We as people had when our country was not called Africa yet meaning "the land of monkeys" as it means in latin original word KAFRITAE. When we had systems and structures that hold the wholeness of the counry that Berlin conference divided as what they called it their Afrikan cake.
So please... I know about the many diseases that were introduced with the Kaukazians in my country-continent ANKHEBURAN also known as ANKHEBU or ARKHEBURAN; during the destruction period, expropriation, colonization and now in their "In" - "dependance".
Of a country that was killed to fit the appetite of the new rulers who define everything as their amnesia dictated since they left the caves in search of a place under the sun. Please I know when Kaukazian say monkey business do you know what that means Taikod??????
Because I do and it is one of you who have told me the secret... Tell us the true of the expression if you seem to love the true as you portray it here.
And what they are doing to exterminate my people as Canada, USA and many other countries in this hemisphere are teaching our children in their school system that Africa will disappear in 2045.
Could you tell me Taikod, why is that your Canadian or US ministers of education have allowed such instruction to to be given people of colour coming originally from that part of the world referred to as Afrika?
Have you read yet the Memorendum 46 by Nixon and Kissinger document which was sent to UN to forsee and administer the global cleansing of the non Kaukazoid on the planet?
Will you have the courage to say here that Small Pox, and Polio too were not a man made disease as is for Ebola, Hepatitis and many others?
Could you explain to us what consist of Biological weapons?
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Re: HIV/AIDS: Can this be true?
March 6, 2004 - 12:41 PM
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If somebody would want to make a subsantional kill-off of an
population, they wolud create something much dangerous than AIDS. Something like Ebola. Which is simple, but fatal virus. Everything can be improved, so could also be Ebola. Main "problem" of Ebola is that it kills too fast, thus diasabling chances to spread itself.
If you look for guilty party here u need to look at urself.
Lack of education, clinging to tradition etc, all contribute to the danger.
Ave Futuria
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Please be alert...
March 6, 2004 - 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by kaiser
If somebody would want to make a subsantional kill-off of an
population, they wolud create something much dangerous than AIDS. Something like Ebola. Which is simple, but fatal virus. Everything can be improved, so could also be Ebola. Main "problem" of Ebola is that it kills too fast, thus diasabling chances to spread itself.
If you look for guilty party here u need to look at urself.
Lack of education, clinging to tradition etc, all contribute to the danger.
Ave Futuria
Do you know how many disease are been dropped in africa, today? Why do you think that North american schools are teaching africa extermination....???
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Sorry Hugh you got a wrong number...
March 8, 2004 - 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by hugh
Originally posted by dgreatafrican
[B]Like I said earlier on, my ideas are original and are based on social observations. I said. If HIV is a sexually transmitted diseases, then Africa would definately be the most affectd region.
Um.. HIV IS a sexually tranmitted disease. I hope you knew that already. It can also be transfered through other means such as needles, bodily fluids etc.
Your facts come from two western controlled organisations. And they cannot be trusted. My alarm is a Black Affair. Solving our prolems our selves. I would never rely on the statistic from a western controlled organisation.
Well, do you have some statistics that you believe are true? Other than your own observations of course.
Yes I call UN liars because thats what they are naturally. We all know those who control the UN.
Who controls the UN then? Canada? The USA? I think not. If the USA controlled the UN, then they wouldn't have been opposed when they went to war with Iraq.
Originally posted by Quansah
Worse, many adults indulge in children sex... something unheard of back home but very popular among the most powerful people in the western world.
wow... I can't belive that you think that that is true. Give me a reliable source that proves that, because I strongly oppose that lie.
Originally posted by Aime-NLLL-Olenga
Why do you think that North american schools are teaching africa extermination....???
Sorry, where in North America do they teach this? They certainly don't in Canada, and I don't believe that they do in the USA either. This is just a blatent lie.
Many people do not have AIDS or HIV from sex many people and infants are contaminated by the medical system that gives them contaminated blood so dear, you better watch what you say because I could be very rough if you push me to.
Can you prove this? Many people don't have access to medial help in the first place, so how would they get AIDS? ah ha! UNPROTECTED sex.
Originally posted by segsy
another thing is that information made us known thatTHIS DISEASE IS NOT SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE IN THE WESTERN WORLD.
Actually, it is. It is likely the second highest reason people contract AIDS in the "western world" and it may be #1..
Originally posted soulconcern
hi, about the AIDS issue... I basically do not care how one got the virus, whether they were sleeping around or whatever, what I do care about is that Africa is dying and no-one wants to help!
Well.. this has many parts and problems, but you're right. On a world basis, no one does care. The problem is that corporations in the USA (for example) refuse to sell cheap drugs to African countries. They come up with poor excuses on why they shouldn't have to sell them for a low price. It barely costs them anything to produce the pills, but they still refuse to provide them.. [/B]
Dear kaukazoid Hugh;
Do not ever play with the person who write this world, and remember the person who is talking to you now; is posting here under his real name. You live in Canada ask around and you will realise that I am not a nick but a full name.
So in Canada (Quebec, Montreal, Kenora, Ontario, Manitoba, Churchill, Albeta, Winnipeg, Yukon...) they are teaching the extermination of Afrikkka in 2045 in the books of grade 8, 9 and 10, the same as in the USA in the High School I was confronted by my Daughters, Cousins, Nephews and Sons...
I am a counsellor and a healer... I see many people among them children of my race and I know what type of trouble their mind has been set into. Please do not come on the net and say whatever because you can call me at 604-433-5754 and we could continue this alive... then you will realise that I am not here to lie.
What I gave you there is the phone number of ANKHUFURHA T.U.R.C.E.M.S.O. check it out. I am not here playing around as an invisible man; I am very real and very concerned of what is being done to my people.
I am doing whatever it takes to have them and some of good Kaukazians who have comprehended that the rhéziku aka reptilians and their muulatuo aka aryans children are doing damage not only to the Ebonite recalled Blax... but also to the lambs of Kaukazians who have covered their heads with shame...
(edited due to content -- Brian)
Do you know what is love without sex and fornication? 85% of Kaukazian girls in North Amerikkka Canada and USA primordially were victims of incest, child molestation or sexual abuse. And that doesn't happen to Afrikkka in normal time as it is custom here.
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Re: HIV/AIDS: Can this be true?
March 8, 2004 - 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by kaiser
Lucky for all AIDS is not an disease such as bird flu (highly contagous - spreads thru air).
Well. Lots of things to do. Lots of research to do and all.
Get busy.
Ave Futuria
How lucky, Ave Futuria when the disease is conceived for the purposes of eradicating a specific group of people... check this out:
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Reply "AIDS, NIXON and AMERICA'S FUTURE: PL91-213"
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March 8, 2001
DAY 98: WORLD WAR AIDS
"AIDS, NIXON and AMERICA'S FUTURE: PL91-213"
by Boyd E. Graves, J.D.
It is hard to believe the public law that authorized AIDS will be thirty one years old next week. Even more remarkable, that in a score and a half, no one has ever read it!
On March 16, 1970, following significant world events both in medicine and politics, President Richard Milhouse Nixon signed into law the U.S. policy to protect America's future by "stabilizing" the population of Sub-Sahara Africa. The history leading to the politicsis relevant in our further presentation of the "research logic" Flow Chart of the federal virus program.
On April 4, 1969, President Richard Nixon did not want to be late. He had been there many times before, but today was special. He wanted the scientific and medical communities from around the world to hear and see his presence as our military scientists and doctors announced, 'they could effectively make AIDS.' It was Fort Detrick, Maryland and the ethnic nature of the work would not be printed until November '70.
Unbeknownst to the American people, the Special Virus program had been underway since November, 1961. In a real sense, the current trillion dollar 'tax' "give back" to U.S. taxpayers, is in essence the benefit of our sharpened ability to kill humans for a better tomorrow for our financial investment in our trust in God.
The 1971 Flow Chart proves the United States sought to co-mingle animal viruses (Visna) that had never before been seen in human disease. Thus, at what point did the population projections of Africa necessitate this "long standing secret virus program?" It appears that shortly after WW2, and the importation of the German (Operation Paperclip) and Japanese biological experts, the U.S. State Department wrote a top secret memo under the pen of George W. McKennan. The United States knew in 1948 it had to 'devise a scheme' to implant the German Visna in the human population and assist the Black population in copulating itself into extinction.
Why? Why? Why would the 'so-called' greatest "people-oriented" country in the history of the world have an Oz-like curtain behind which reveals a twisted, evil social structure so contrary to the very fabric of the core Constitutional foundations?
As Zbigniev Brezinski says in his classic 1978 National Security Council Memorandum #46: "Africa's resources remain our "highest priority""! (Translation: If we allow the Africans to use of all their own diamonds and gold, we won't have anything physical to show that we are not available for sex for others.)
For more information, http://pub34.ezboard.com/fmaamayanagadzikaafrm10.showMessage?topicID=365.topic
Enjoy Ave Futuria
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March 8, 2004 - 12:22 PM
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Aime-NLLL-Olenga,
I have four things to say to you.
1. You stated that I said that I do not care about how people get AIDS. Where exactly did I say this. HIV/AIDS is a pandemic that is plaguing the world. I would never wish it upon anyone.
2. I searched for "ANKHUFURHA T.U.R.C.E.M.S.O." using google, however I didn't find anything.
3. You really need to get your facts correct. Please, come back when you can handle it. I refuse to have a discussion with people who use insult as their main means of conveying their message.
3. Calling members or moderators names is totally inappropriate. Your posting privileges are suspended. You are in violation of minor offence 1 through 4 inclusive and this type of behaviour will not be tolerated. Please look at http://www.takingitglobal.org/discuss/guidelines.html for information about the discussion guidelines.
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The Smoking Gun of AIDS...
March 9, 2004 - 02:30 AM
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December 6, 2000
The Smoking Gun of AIDS: a 1971 Flowchart
by Boyd E. Graves, J.D.
In 1977, a secret federal virus program produced 15,000 gallons of AIDS. The record reveals the United States was represented by Dr. Robert Gallo and the USSR was represented by Dr. Novakhatskiy of the diabolical Ivanosky Institute. On August 21, 1999, the world first saw the flowchart of the plot to thin the Black Population.
The 1971 AIDS flowchart coordinates over 20,000 scientific papers and fifteen years of progress reports of a secret federal virus development program. The epidemiology of AIDS is an identical match to the "research logic" identified in the five section foldout. The flowchart is page 61 of Progress Report #8 (1971) of the Special Virus program of the United States of America. We today, challenge world scientists to discussion of this document find. We believe there is a daily, growing number of world experts who are all coming to the same conclusion regarding the significance of the flowchart. Dr. Garth Nicolson has examined the flowchart as well as other top notch experts from around the world. It is time for Dr. Michael Morrissey of Germany to examine the flowchart and report to the world. In addition, we have now examined the 1978 report. It is heresy to continue to further argue the program ended in 1977. The 1978 report of the development of AIDS leaves no doubt as to the ("narrow result" candidate virus sought by the United States. The flowchart conclusively proves a secret federal plot to develop a "contagious cancer" that "selectively kills."
Following the presentation of the flowchart in Canada, the same information was presented to the United States in the rotunda of the Western Reserve Historical Society in Cleveland. Shortly thereafter a major African newspaper called and for four days in a row, this issue was the feature story in an uncensored press. The people of Africa already know about the U.S. virus development program. It is time for the rest of us to know.
In January, the U.S. had no response to my two page abstract submitted to the African American AIDS 2000 conference. In February, the U.S. Congress had no response to the 3000 Americans who signed signature petitions calling for immediate review of the flowchart and progress reports of the secret virus development program. We firmly believe once the dust settles from the current election marathon, reviewing the special virus program will be the single most important pursuit of the 21st Century.
More scientists and doctors must join with Dr. Nicolson, Dr. Strecker, Dr. Cantwell, Dr. Horowitz, Dr. Lee, Dr. Wainwright, Dr. Halstead and Professor Boyle. In any public debate on this issue, we will continue to present the flowchart of the secret virus development program, as the "irrefutable missing link" in the true laboratory origin of AIDS. We have successfully navigated a federal maze and matrix and found a curtain surrounding the issue of AIDS. The 1999 discovery and presentation of the AIDS flowchart is a "smoke detector" wake up call. Society has an obligation to do more than don masks.
Non-inclusive random endnotes:
U.S. Special Virus program, Progress Report #8 (1971), pg. 61 (the flowchart)
National Security Defense Memorandum (NSDM) #314, Brent Scowcroft (1975).
"Special Message to the U.S. Congress on Problems of Population Growth", Richard M. Nixon, July 18, 1969
Public Law 91-213, "To Stabilize World Populations", John D. Rockefeller, III, Chairman, March 16, 1970
National Security Council Memorandum (NSCM) #46, "Black Africa and the U.S. Black Movement", Zbigniew Brezinski, March 17, 1978
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Boyd Graves' Web site
March 9, 2004 - 05:20 AM
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http://www.boydgraves.com/ is the source of some of the last postings in this thread.... Bonus points if anyone can source the Peter Piot quote that Boyd claims on his Web site. I can't find any evidence that Piot ever said that....
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Re: HIV/AIDS: Can this be true?
March 10, 2004 - 12:54 PM
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How sinister.
The concept of Aids as a bioweapon is, I'm sorry, ridiculous. If Aids is to be used in order to depopulate Africa why was no genetic specificity developed. Belive me this is possible. Also why was a disease with such a poor transmission vector used - body fluids is very poor. And why use a disease that has upto ten years incubation?
This is without the evidence that the HIV virus developed from SIV and that cases as early as 1950's have been identified.
Also when you detail this multiglobal conspiracy you give ne evidence of why?
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The Murder Glove...
March 11, 2004 - 02:06 AM
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You know GB, I think you should let the facts speak for themselves... there is no point denying the obvious. I know you wish this had never come to light, but those dying from the disease should know who is responsible for creating the virus to kill them and why.
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March 9, 2001
DAY 99: WORLD WAR AIDS
"AIDS AND CONGRESS - THE MURDER GLOVE FITS!"
by Boyd E. Graves, J.D.
The United States Congress will never investigate the origin of AIDS. To do so would mean that it would have to investigate itself and then take the fifth and get back to their cigars and golf.
It is the United States Congress, solidified by the re-birth of 21st century "uncle tomism", that is the drum majorette of the 'selective', 'genetic' culling of Africa. However, were the Congressional Black Caucus ("CBC" a genuine entity, a "true" defender of the people, the filibuster of the review of AIDS would never end.
By what "natural mechanism" is the Icelandic sheep disease, Visna, found in the genetic sequencing of HIV?
Who authorized the 1932 importation of the Karakul sheep for the early AIDS testing? In light of the timeline proximity to Tuskegee, is their a significant connection between the animal wasting experiments?
The Congressional Black Caucus has failed as a collective body to safeguard the welfare of Black America. Ultimately, this failure will cost many Latino and Caucasian lives as well. We have allowed the ilk of the U.S. Congress to poison our best and our brightest. They should not be stoned. We are unlike our transgressors. We seek the free mind of each and every good citizen, to use the discovery of the federal virus program, as a cataclysmic trigger for self realization, thought and intellectual intrigue and development, based on truth and fact.
In light of the progressive Congressional history of the federal virus program, including the $550 million dollar appropriations (See, PR#15 (1978) at 5), the United States Congress owes a significant apology and explanation to the people of the United States and the people of the world. The United States owes a duty to the world to take the Special AIDS Virus apart.
It is the United States Congress with the Congressional Black Caucus at the helm where any commencement of the process to dismantle the Special virus (AIDS) should begin.
However, by original design, Congress has done its job. Congress is the opposite of progress. There will never be a formal review of America's dirty little secret, the development of AIDS. Through every means necessary it must never be known we make more money from killing humans than we do from tobacco or cocaine.
Yet, we feverishly drone a beat of work hard, prosper, multiply and fear God. Congress must be God (and they do act like it) because if you really knew, you would never want to be alone or in the dark again.
There is no doubt Congress's lifetime retirement package is a 'kick back' for their participation in the illusion of government. For the record, anyone who seeks to covertly kill me can not represent me, although there are many fools who are lawyers, I am not one of them. AIDS is (U.S. Congressional) murder by any planetary definition.
The Constitution shell game perpetrated behind your endless facade of democratic socialism is over. We sincerely feel the U.S. Population Commission should be immediately overhauled to allow direct input from citizen victims in which to alter the course of a new nation opposed to stealth population control. PL91-213 has outlived its purpose. It is time to dismantle AIDS if the CBC can get off the front porch.
We can help Africa. It is sad and unfortunate, our (people's) Congress is so padded and insulated with filled hidden pockets that they have no intention to represent the true interest of the people.
We sincerely believe former President Nixon was wrong when he articulated on the eve of Saint Patrick's Day some 31 years ago, that (population stabilization) had 'broad support' across the United States.
I was only 17. I was getting ready for Annapolis. I was unashamedly pre-occupied then, but now I am not. I truly feel regretful for my dereliction to my fellow man. I apologize on behalf of my country to all I have let down by my failure for not having greater insight sooner.
Once they join Congress, they get zapped. You find out the United States was formed as a 'corporation' (7/4/1776) owned by somebody who formed a group on May 1, 1776. The owner's emblem embosses the flip side of the 'Great Seal' of the United States of America. Your pay off for your Congressional elitism is too now keep your mouth shut and act like you care about people, while secretly ensuring no point of further review to any constituent, virtually of any issue. The first rule of Congress: Murder economically, relish reverently, and never pass up an opportunity to pad the re-election war kitty.
The history of the "underhanded" nature of the United States Congress is 'dinasourian' and central to the 'north-south' balance of the Hegelian dialectic of the AIDS pandemic. The illusion of democracy is centered in the unexplainable juxtaposition of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC).
It is the position of the Congressional Black Caucus that the 'origin of AIDS' is not important, and to concentrate on it (as Boyd Graves) is doing is really doing harm to the Black community'.
'All of you, brothers and sisters, who want to believe the White man has made AIDS should go home. There is nothing to see here. PAY NO ATTENTION to that old blueprint. The messenger is just simply disgruntled over his scurrilous behavior and has long since been AIDS-demented.'
Although we were Black people before we joined Congress, now we are paid to forget. It doesn't matter that there will be no more Black people on the continent of Africa (in 66 years), 'if they didn't cater to their animal sexuality, they wouldn't have AIDS, now would they Mr. Graves???'
'Have a nice day (while we help slowly kill you) Mr. Graves, the congressman's staff needs the room to meet with a human genome-AFRICAN AMERICAN committee'.
Congress needs a recess and time to pry the glove loose.
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Re: HIV/AIDS: Can this be true?
March 14, 2004 - 02:02 AM
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The idea that HIV was an engineered virus is ridiculous. Apart from the total lack of proof that it was created by humans, it seems highly unlikely that any one group would have targeted any other group since it spreads to any human regardless of their ethnicity, sexual orientation or other characteristics. If you think HIV is a human-made virus then you have as much logical reasoning behind your argument as if you said that the common cold was made by humans.
Quansah, those texts that you post are written in such a confusing and irrational manner that it's impossible to understand them or even glean any sort of evidence that you might have some basis for your argument. Could you provide us with a synopsis of what you think are the major arguments/proofs?
Secondly I think this conspiracy theory thing is a waste of time and distracts from the real issues, such as a) preventing the transmission of the disease and b) finding a vaccine or cure for it! People have the disease, it is real, and it is spreading in Africa, North America, Asia, and Europe. The disease causes the most ravages in Africa, and the statistics don't lie about this. Africa is the place that is the most in need of aid in terms of education and prevention, because in many countries HIV is decimating the ranks of professionals such as teachers, doctors and others whose work is essential in keeping the social fabric of the country together.
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Re: HIV/AIDS: Can this be true?
March 17, 2004 - 11:44 AM
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You are correct Quansah, I am disspaointed to see this type of post. You are also right in that the facts should speak for themselves. So I would suggest you read the text below, this includes references to Nature (completely unbiased) and is written by an unbiased scientist who is not attempting to set off an unfounded develop a ridicluous conspiracy theory.
Origin of HIV is Traced to Chimpanzees
Understanding why infected chimpanzees do not become ill could lead to new treatments and a vaccine for HIV in humans.
Beatrice Hahn, PhD, from the University of Alabama presented research indicating that HIV originated in a subspecies of chimpanzees from western equatorial Africa. She and her colleagues determined that the DNA genetic sequence of SIV from the chimpanzee subspecies Pan troglodytes troglodytes is very closely related to HIV-1. Chimpanzee and human genes are 98.5% identical.
Hahn's presentation indicated that SIV crossed into humans in western equatorial Africa at least three times in the past. She believes that this most likely occurred due to blood exposure during the hunting or possibly eating of chimpanzees in that region. Since these chimpanzees do not become ill from SIV infection, Hahn emphasized that studying their immune systems could provide key insights leading to new HIV treatments and an HIV vaccine for humans. She commented that this may be difficult, however, due to the small remaining number of these chimpanzees. The population of this species has decreased significantly due to lax enforcement of local poaching laws and the progressive loss of rain forests due to urban growth. As a result of Hahn's report, the Rainforest Action Network of San Francisco declared that preserving African rain forests and the chimpanzees is extremely important, or "the cure for AIDS may be lost forever." Hahn's report was published in the February 4, 1999 issue of Nature.
Gao, F. and others. "Origin of HIV-1 in Pan troglodytes troglodytes", Nature 1999 Feb 4;397(6718):436-41.
Hahn, B. The origin of HIV-1: a puzzle solved? 6th CROI. Abstract S2.
Harvey S. Bartnof, MD, has been a member of the Scientific Advisory Committee of the San Francisco AIDS Foundation since 1987.
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Re: HIV/AIDS: Can this be true?
March 21, 2004 - 04:06 AM
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GB and Mikael, you must know AIDS is not a naturally occuring disease, but man-made... it was created in the lab. And as it is, I don't believe relying on those who created it for a cure is not a good idea.
We have our own traditional healers, and they know our body better than anyone else. But our medical practitioners have been suppressed because of the destruction, pacification and colonialism. I believe it is time now to rehabilitate and give them the necessary support to practice their craft. We need to open up our own tradional hospitals to cater to the people. For as Credo Muntwa of South Africa has shown, the AIDS-disease can be cured by our own traditional doctors...
We need to remember that there are differences between the way kaukazian and black people treat diseases. And our own traditional healers have a much better understanding of our physiology and way of being than the kaukazians.
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Re: HIV/AIDS: Can this be true?
March 22, 2004 - 06:39 AM
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Quansah, your bio says you are a chemist - I can only assume this is a metaphor and not a reference to scientific education.
As for Credo Mutwa (I couldn't find anything on Muntwa so I assume this is your point), I can understand a following in holistic and natural therapies. The belief in alien abduction and shamanism is a little more difficult to swallow. Also the fact that the links involve the great David Icke who once proclaimed that everyone should wear turquise jump suits to prevent the end of the world. I won't even go into the half breed shapeshifting lizards trying to take over the world. Magic over medicine............ Caucasian physiology, in the respect of HIV infection, is no different than anyother race. This is where the argument of a custom made virus fails, there is no specificity. If a mutated transferable sickle cell anaemia was in evidence I would say you have an argument. If a disease was being developed to eradicate a racial group there are many better ways of doing it.
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Re: HIV/AIDS: Can this be true?
March 24, 2004 - 03:19 AM
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Below is the revealation of a treatment for AIDS by Credo Mutwa of South Africa. I believe it is up to us as africans to look for our own solutions to our medical problems... I don't believe relying on the West for solutions to our problems is the way for us to go. I believe it's time to rehabilitate our traditional healers by opening our own native hospitals and giving them the recognition and the necessary tools for them to practice their craft.
CREDO MUTWA REVEALS AIDS TREATMENT ~ Articles by David Icke
CREDO MUTWA REVEALS AIDS TREATMENT
posted 6/12/02
The following is a transcription of a conversation between Credo Mutwa and Steve, who is helping him to communicate his information through this website. It was recorded on Sunday, April 29th 2001 in Johannesburg, South Africa.
Credo: "I wish to appeal to the world. First, I am not a quack or a charlatan or a sensationalist. I am an old man who has seen much. I wish the world to know that there is a faint ray of hope that emanates from South Africa.
It is a plant which is almost on the point of extinction, a plant called 'Suderlandia Fructosate'. This plant works miracles on people who have the terrible disease called Aids. And it is so miraculous that the miracles are seen within a week or a fortnight. A person, who was lying down on the point of death, when given this plant, rises and has much energy and is free of depression and has a good appetite. And I feel that as a nation as a matter of world emergency because the big scientists have not produced a viable safe treatment for aids. I say that this plant should be planted by all caring governments, by all caring organisations and that it should be given to human beings free of charge."
Steve: "Absolutely. You know what I think is important though Credo, that people understand what to do with the plant."
Credo: "They don't do nothing sir, you are going to laugh about this. You plant the plant okay, but then you take the little leaves from it and you put them in a tea cup and you pour much boiling water on it. And then you let the cup stand there, like tea you know, and you just drink, the patient just drinks."
Steve: "The leaves and the red flower?"
Credo: "Yah."
Steve: "Mix them together? Do you need to dry them first?"
Credo: "No you can take them straight from the garden, because if you dry them too much they somehow loose some of their good spirit. Now this is all you do. Now, there are good doctors I'm working with who are making pills out of this medicine. But you know sir, I feel we are faced with a national emergency, a world emergency.
You know sir, what I say is this. I can't cure the people of Africa without curing the people of the Caribbean, because Aids is running around the world. If I cure the people here and they get better, more Aids will come in and eat the same people whom I tried to cure. So the whole world must be cured. Look, can we say this? Nobody will arrest us or anything?"
Steve: "Well yes, I mean it's not against the law to say this, it's in our rights to speak."
Credo: Thank you sir. I will tell you why. Originally the plant of 'Suderlandia' was all over South Africa. And I will tell you what used to happen. There was a funny little grayish brown bird, which used to feed on 'Suderlandia's' and this bird was very edible. And starving people used to hit it with katties (slingshots) and kill it. Now the bird is gone almost. And now... so the land here is difficult to cultivate…
Steve: The seeds are not being spread.
Credo: "Yah, yah. What is happening is you need to take a fine sandpaper and sandpaper each little seed. The seeds are very tiny, tinier than grape seeds. And you sandpaper each seed and you plant it in a small blompot (flower pot). And you allow it to grow until it is about maybe four inches, three inches high. Then you take it and you plant it in the big veld (grassland). You can make a big garden, maybe twenty acres or so and you plant there. They just grow. There are farmers who have already planted them but they are too few. This is a world emergency and we must not be selfish.
In the last few years or so there has been many claims made by people about plants and herbs, which they say are beneficial in the fight against aids. Some of these claims have proven to be false and at best have proven to be exaggerations. But in South Africa there is plan, which is on the brink of extinction. This plant is called by white people in English 'Suderlandia Fructosate'. This plant is also called by the Afrikaans people 'kankerbos', which means cancer bush or 'kalkoenbos', which means turkey bush. Now this plant was known in South Africa and other parts of Sub-Saharan Africa for thousands of years. It was an anti-depressant, it was appetite booster, it was also and still is a dramatic booster of the human immune system.
For many years African people and Xhoi-xhoi people and Xhoi-san people as well as Bantu people used this plant in the fight against cancer, and it was very effective there, and it still is. And they used it also in the fight against diseases like tuberculosis before there was streptomycin and other drugs to fight tuberculosis. In the old days when ordinary venereal disease like gonorrhea, syphilis and others were as incurable as Aids is today, our people used this plant to fight those diseases. If they had not had this plant, the black people of Southern Africa would have been destroyed just as the Australian Aborigines were destroyed, and other races of aboriginal people in other parts of the world were brought to extinction by diseases brought in from Europe.
Now, we have found... me and a group of doctors, doctors like Dr Nigel Gerica , Dr Ben van Wyk, Dr Albreght, Dr Mayeng. We looked at this plant and we found that it was having dramatic impact in creating a better quality of life. People with full-blown aids, people who had been sent home to die. Not only did we, the five of us, use the plant to help many people to a better quality of life within the space of a month or a fortnight. There is a lady in a hospital in Zululand, a white lady who has saved many, many people who have been condemned to die of Aids in this hospital. Then I also have my student, Virginia Ratele, who has saved many people who were condemned to die of aids. She has done this in her tribal village near the town of Kuruman.
There is something very strange that is happening now. I and Virginia, who live amongst the mountains of the Magaliesberg, are being terrorized and threatened by white men who are very professional in the way they do this. They are able to neutralize the security lights and the alarms with which the house in which we live are fitted. They are able to break in through the doors even though we put devices in the keyholes to stop people from doing so. These are not your run of the mill thieves; they are professional men who know exactly what they are doing.
I feel that all of human kind is facing an emergency, and that all greed and selfishness should be swept away, and this plant should be made available to nations in the world. The way the plant grows, I know it can grow in Nazareth, in the United States, India and in China and in other places where Aids is rampant. I do not claim that this plant, dramatic as the results are is the cure for Aids. I say it is a stopgap, which must be used by all human kind in order to halt the disease of Aids. Until such a time as the pharmaceutical scientists can come up with a real cure, a cure which is not at all toxic. I say that this plant 'Suderlandia' is not at all toxic. It was even used by men such as President Paul Kruger of the South African Republic of 1899 or thereabouts. And Paul Kruger who used this plant lived to be a very old man, and at one time Paul Kruger tried to send a consignment of 'Suderlandia' to save the life of a German Prince who had cancer of the throat. But the ship that sailed from Mozambique was too slow and arrived too late to save the prince.
I say this that the United Nations should take over the growing of this plant because we are faced with a world emergency. We are faced with a disease which devastates all of human kind without thinking. And we have got to stop Aids not only in Africa but in other parts of the world too. This disease has got to be stopped; it is not a natural disease. I have dealt with Aids now for the last five years and I now firmly believe, I Credo Mutwa, that Aids is a manmade disease. The way it behaves in the human body is like no God created ailment ever does. The disease shows a Satanic intelligence and I appeal to all people throughout the world, that here in South Africa is a faint ray of hope, which is however …………….to be drowned by greed, by selfishness and cowardly secretiveness. I say that this plant belongs to all humankind. It belongs to the little children dying of Aids; it belongs to the men and women who are ravaged by this ailment. And I believe firmly that scientists will be able to create a cure for Aids out of this plant. And I am making this worldwide appeal because our government appears totally indifferent to this offer, which I am making freely for all humanity. Our government does not seem to be able to take the one step, to have this plant planted throughout South Africa as a matter of national emergency.
One 'Suderlandia plant' is capable of treating 10 people, and we need plantations of this plant. And I say that this plant should not be the plaything of greedy businessmen. It should not be the plaything of thieving pharmaceutical organizations that steal Africa's treasures and lock them up in computers and call them their intellectual property. I say this that this plant belongs to all the humankind, and that the greedy organizations leave it alone. We do not need a disease like Aids to reduce the population of the world. I am told that this disease was created specifically to destroy Africa and I now believe this. After more than five years of dealing with this disease. And I say this. I will not allow Africa, a misunderstood and misrepresented nation, a misunderstood and misrepresented continent, to perish, to suit the designs of conspirators. I say that Africa must live, I say that India must live, China must live, and even the United States must live. There is hope, a little ray of hope, a green ray of hope, emanating from South Africa, and I call on all human fellow human beings to make it larger, to spread hope throughout the world. I beg to remind all that there was once a time malaria devastated whole communities throughout the middle east, throughout Africa and elsewhere. And out of South America there appeared a ray of hope, which grew, larger and larger. That ray of hope was called the bark of the Cinchona tree, quinine. And quinine saved thousands of lives, which would have otherwise been swept into oblivion.
I say that people should not look upon me as a quack or a crank. I am a researcher, self-taught. I am a writer of books, which have sold worldwide. I am an inventor and a historian and a traditional healer. And I say please, those who don't believe me come to South Africa and look at this plant yourself. I say that no organization has the right to call this plant it's property, none. And I say let hope for humankind be lighted from the southern tip of Africa to overspread the whole planet.
If Aids were created to reduce the human population, then it is a self-defeating thing. The only way to make people breed less is to end war in the world. When there is war shaking continents people breed more. People breed out of fear. People breed out of insecurity. You, the hypocrites of the United Nations, you the liars within the walls of the United Nations, you, I challenge you to create a safer world and not a world rotten with disease.
Thank You.
Credo Mutwa
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