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[Poll] Understanding Futurism .
March 4, 2004 - 01:45 AM
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Porky n company: Here are parts of Holy Codex, which you wanted to hear:
The rights given by birth and preserved by Futurism and Futuria are:
- Right to be independent in both mind and body
- Right to have and keep private assets
- Right to know and learn
- Right to privacy
- Right to be respected unconditionally
- Right to safety
- Right to work and be well paid for doing work
- Right to free decision
- Right to have good place of stay
- Right to have sexual freedom
- Right to have sexual indepedence
(there is more....)
Now we come to Duties. There are two sorts of Duties. General and Religious.
General duties:
The duties which every follower, either practicing or non-practicing should fulfill are :
- 8 hour work duty everyday. Work is good and there is a lot of it everywhere. Choosing what do is left for every individual to decide.
- Always to keep good personal hygiene
- Always excercise urself in order to keep and sustain good health and sharp mind.
- As follower your duty is also, to always be better than your competition is.
- Good looks and manners make best first impression of yourself so be at your best with those, at all times.
- When you meet brother or sister which has problems and expresses need for help be sure to help.
- Never let any opportunity go.
- Always defend and protect faith and your brothers and sisters from harm.
(there is more.....)
Religious duties:
Religious duties are those which are mandatory for all practicing members.
- Perform honorings regularly, mornings at 7.00 and nights at 19.00 time. Always be clean at honorings, therefore wash yourself before performing them.
- At least once in lifetime perform awakenings, which are in month of December and last from 29th day of the month (Day of Community), 30th day of the month (Day of Triumph) and 31st day of the month (Day of Transition) right until 12.00 hour of the first day of New Year.
- Day of Community is a day to remember back of the year and it is the time of looking deep into activities of the Community and being focused and aware of duties being done for the benefits of Community.
- Day of Triumph is the day of pride of everybodys sucess in the last year. It is the time of happiness and pride.
- Day of Transition is the day when we see arrival of new year and new era and it is a preparation for the future activities.
- Give effort to spread system Futurism towards all sides if the Universum.
(there is more.....)
So Porky & Company. Enjoy replying to this. But with care and respect, if u mind.
Ave Futuria
How usable you find those Guidances?
Excellent stuff. Want to know more
(7 votes for 35%)
Very good.
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Interesting
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 6, 2004 - 03:00 AM
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followers>sounds like a sekt
no such thing as free seksuality>always comes with responsibility
competition in a follower society>recipe for impending disaster and corruption
in kurz fassung> back to the drawingboard
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 6, 2004 - 11:40 AM
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But its non-lethal one. Thats the main difference to others.
And Guidance to be better than competition is a huge motivator, because lack of motivation is harmful.
Too bad i only posted 10% of whole Codex. As it cannot be taken by pieces.
I dont know why should i be embarrased of what i follow.
Sexuality? Nothing wrong with it, as it is part of human personality. At least we have that acknowledged.
And no, we arent dancing in the streets or planning a mass suicide !!
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 8, 2004 - 02:44 AM
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Kaiser8 hour work duty everyday. Work is good and there is a lot of it everywhere.
This violates human rights by forcing someone to do something, plus it violates one of your own policies:
Right to be independent in both mind and body
If one is ********forced********* to be work 8 hour everyday, one has lost independence
- Perform honorings regularly, mornings at 7.00 and nights at 19.00 time. Always be clean at honorings, therefore wash yourself before performing them.hah. this will never work out. I hate waking up at 7 in the morning, plus, I dont worship anyone, no WAY.
This futurism system fails and will never work out, will *never* be accepted by Public. How many followers are there? I should turn out some Adnanism system, it should be better than this.
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 9, 2004 - 01:42 AM
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Ok first thank you for posting and presenting ur resentments towards system Futurism.
Now back to the topic:
I think i have to emphasise once again the division between
- Practicing (those which r required to fulfill relgious duties and general duties as well)
- Non- practicing (are not required to do any of religious duties, but have to fulfill general duties)
I, although being a system lord (cleric) am stictly non - practicing. But you can be sure i do general duties to utmost. Work is not harmfull as long you know what you are doing and you are not exaggarating.
I am a bit confused about you thinking a+you are unable to fulfill a daily 8 work... Man everybody here can work for 8 hour without even thinking. I personally do even more. Mostly paperwork, but also consulting. And on "especially good days" i spend 16 hours working. And i am still alive and kicking.
And i forgot to mention (did i or no?) that you can refuse ANY of upper mentioned duties, but must have a explanation why ..
Example:
You have a gf. You want to take her on vacation. No problem. Just notify, explain and off u go. But dont forget to come back at right time, lol.
You were told to go to Germany on a buisness meeting instead of me.... ok.. you are clearly a bad driver. Explain etc.. and i'll soon find another one.
Thats it for now. I am very interested to continue this topic. Please note: I am not your enemy and i dont want you to be mine. As you r good on attack.
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 9, 2004 - 05:40 AM
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You seem to have little considaration for real or perceived weakness. What does your penal code look like?
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 9, 2004 - 06:45 AM
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It is based primarily on Roman law:
Principle: Nobody is guilty until proven otherwise.
Principle two: apply Forgiveness and Forgetfullness to the utmost.
Several principle in penal law are also combined with other principles from other areas in life such as:
Principle of media coverage to prevent corruption. These involves good oversight over all those which handle economy.
In Western (liberal) societies we also concluded to add into the law all of solutions which might be better for community. (we want to avoid pressuring to the utmost).
AS for the Middle East, our law represent a blast of light for all, which show interest in using it in daily life. I dont need to tell you how appaling is human rights record down there.
Maybe this has shown as we are not a "Sword of Damocleus" eg "Danger to bE" but only as a nice crowd of ppl for a change.
This is what you asked was a very good question which enabled me to reply properly. Plz go on as i still feel very talkative.
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 9, 2004 - 07:35 AM
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Media coverage: -how about free press
-big brother is watching you
-would there be room for freestates, tax havens, independent communities, self-relying.
-opposition parties
-what's the social contract base with the people like (you've allready got two dissenters)
-how are the three powers devided, are they?
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 10, 2004 - 02:36 AM
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No parties, candidates gather support and wait to be apointed or elected by popular vote of all.
Codex (the book) is not a constitution. It is a book containing principles by which the actuall consitution is written. Law for the constitution can be written by anybody which is member of community. Law is then subjected to vote as if on referendum. The voting is taking place every 2nd Sunday. And it is simple 1 person, 1 vote = "yes" or "no".
Press is of course free. If it were not free everybody in community would suffer coz this would stop free flow of information. And unfree press would be in contradiction with several principles. In short: You are free to criticize, but with facts.
Tax haven? Our whole community is one tax haven. We especially stress need for having strong economy to sustain community in good shape.
I dont know what you mean by "independent communities" but i, as a System Lord i lead an unit quite freely. Many decisions are originating just from as from others elsewhere. Just that they are not binding and can be freely refused.
Big Brother? If you mean that people i am obliged to answer are pushing me into anything thats not true.
And what is a dissent? I assume you mean some guys dunn like what i am doing... Thats their problem. I am not going on their door to express how i dislike them - no opinions on others, remember?. People dont join Futuria to be a "dissenters" but only coz in previous system/religion there was something which scared them off. It is mostly a political statement. As it was in my case. I just "had it" with others. Not like this is just wonderfull. It is just least bad choice from all really bad ones aviable.
At least i am sure my kids and family wont be going to be fighting with anybody else on their initiative, as we refuse violence.
There!
Please continue with Q & A style as i find it easiest for me to properly answer.
With respect
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 10, 2004 - 03:01 AM
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Kaiser;
Could you supply a link so that some of us can read the Codex for ourselves? Or if that is not possible a title/author/isbn so that we can find it at a bookstore or library...
I have been trying to find it and I have been unsuccessful so far...
Thanks
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 10, 2004 - 04:46 AM
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Yes of course. But i am sceptical at this moment. I concluded i might have drawn too much attention to the system itself. There is a fully operational website going on and efforts are to make it public.
Last thing what i would (and especially others) is that likes of porky & company would go there and wreak havoc.
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 10, 2004 - 06:07 AM
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Weak society
How's the army organised?
Codex is the name for church law
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 11, 2004 - 01:49 AM
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We dont have an army ... You seem to have really developed a wrong image about me and others. Any more peacefull we would be Buddhist remake.
We are people for the people. No real pressure. People join us because of safety. And we just need anybody.
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 11, 2004 - 02:47 AM
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A trite irresponsible but what would your organisation look like as a safe-haven for refugees, could it handle that?
Now it's horrendous and dangerous in those refugee camps.
Give it a try, we the dissenters, are just interested and more than a little curious, given some other statements you had in other threads.
It's just a thought experiment.
Omnia probate; quod bonum est tenete
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try everything; keep the good
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Re: Understanding Futurism .
March 11, 2004 - 05:27 AM
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Listen people dont decide to join Futuria because of an belief etc. It is a logical step for this or that reason.
My reason was political and because i feared for my destiny and destiny of my children.
It was few years back i think in late 99, when i saw footage from Iran, showing public stoning of two women. As i am very sensible and caring man these images deeply hurt me. I realized that nothing good will come out of humanity unless there is a change. A major change. I got quickly interested in human rights, wanted otl earn how to make this world better. After browsing the internet thoroughly i soon came across some discussion boards and got in contacts with some people with which i shared the world view. After several talks i realized i am talking to Futurists. I was invited to join and observe. So i did, without reservations.
I used to be quite a nervous, non-organized depressed guy but i quickly gained new awareness and skills. I still amaze myself with what abilities i have, actually. Anyway i am more than proud to be member of Futuria, and my Loyality cannot be questioned. I am now refusing all violence and all aggression on others. I never curse and NEVER, NEVER do anything bad to women. If i learned something valuable from Codex it is that i am independent on this world and that i can do whatever i want and my birthrights are guaranteed.
I can be sure my kids will never make a treason and leave Futurism, as it is illegal. There will always be enemies trying to destroy our community and our freedoms, but at least i got a strong shield to protect myself. I am NON-CONVERTABLE and i am proud on me and my brothers and sisters.
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