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Is Poverty Laziness ?
February 8, 2004 - 07:38 AM

Many are the times when we have these heated discussions with my buddies on whether the root-cause of poverty is laziness or lack of proper leadership qualities. Please help me understand.

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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
February 8, 2004 - 01:35 AM

Ok.

Most certainly lasyness is not the main cause.

it is leadeship which can make good things turn very badly in matter of days.

Leadership has a abilitiy to choose the way whole community is going to take. When leadership is involved into looking after itself its not doing anything for people.

When factory, which was always sucesfull, starts to produce losses, its not the workers fault, at least not main share of fault, because those which lead the factory had several bad contracts and bad decisions.

But it is usually workers which have ot take the beatings for every problems that occur. Same goes for all unpriviledged in a society.

Did you ever seen a leader of an impovershed country to drive around on a bicycle or taking a hitchhike?

Do you think ex liberian "president" Charles Taylor went on a bycicle and drove all the way to Nigeria? And with empty pockets?. Usually if you are a little man in a factory and if you mess up you get a reduced salary for next few months coz of damage repay. If you are they boss, then you dunn need to.

Solution?

- Be the boss

OR

- Learn, communicate, work, train and cooperate with everybody to make world better place. This is actually why we al visit this web page.

Ave Futuria


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
February 13, 2004 - 01:40 AM

Poverty is not having a job, fearing for the future, living one day at a time. Poverty is powerlessness, and it is lack of representation and freedom. The primary goal of development should be to release people from the grip of poverty. But development is not solely about money or markets, or education and health - although all these are important. It is about people gaining access to resources and increasing their capacity to improve their lives and influence decisions that affect them.

From globalpolicy.org


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
May 24, 2007 - 09:09 AM

I beleive that poverty is not laziness. But poverty is different in different types of economies. In a socialist economy you can work as hard as you want and not make any more money than you would if you were being lazy.
However in a capitalist economy if you are lazy that will cause poverty. You need to work hard and then you will move up in the corporate world. So i beleive that laziness is a factor in capitalists economies but is not nearly the main factor. Some people may work very hard and start a buisness but it just doesn't appeal to the people of America.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
June 15, 2007 - 01:10 AM

I believe another important factor in distinguishing laziness from poverty is the infrastructure and economy of a country.

For example, if there are no roads for people to travel, it makes it hard to work. Infrastructure is really important because it MAKES jobs.

I think poverty is when you can't work even if you wanted to.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
June 25, 2007 - 12:24 AM

Perhaps in few extreme cases, laziness is connected to poverty. However, I think that the greater causes of poverty stem from socio-political factors rather than individual issues. For example, let's say that Child A is born into a family in poverty. While young, Child A lacks good nutrition, isn't read to or taken to experience life because parents are working, and then when Child A enters schools, parents don't have time or energy to help with homework, attend school functions or even, sometimes, wake up in time to get Child A ready for school. As Child A ages, comes the responsibility of taking care of siblings. There are days Child A has to miss school because s/he has to stay home and take care of sick siblings while the parents are at work. Eventually, Child A falls further and further behind in school and, thus, when Child A's parents suggest s/he get a job to help support the family Child A does. Child A works 50 hours a week, making minimum wage, most of which goes to pay medical bills for parents and siblings, as well as for food, housing, etc. Is Child A lazy? NO! Just a victim of circumstances which created a cycle of poverty. Certainly, that child, or any person, can strive to rise above poverty, but sometimes that road is too treacherous and impassble, even for the most dedicated.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
June 26, 2007 - 11:52 AM

I don't think poverty is laziness at all - though in a few extreme cases this may be true. Poverty is deprivation of the basic needs in life. As the definition says, poverty results from a lack of a need thus when a person lacks something, be it credit, food, shelter etc, it means they have no means to source that. Who would want to go hungry if they could grow food? Think about it.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
June 29, 2007 - 09:08 AM

In Cyprus, until very recently, many people came over from the Philippines and from Sri Lanka to try and get a job. I have had the opportunity to come into contact with many of them. Most are living in poverty, but I would never call them lazy! I would describe most as workaholics who are bound by other responsibilities and can thus not reap the benefits of their hard labour.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
June 29, 2007 - 03:15 PM

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rschack wrote:

Perhaps in few extreme cases, laziness is connected to poverty. However, I think that the greater causes of poverty stem from socio-political factors rather than individual issues. For example, let's say that Child A is born into a family in poverty. While young, Child A lacks good nutrition, isn't read to or taken to experience life because parents are working, and then when Child A enters schools, parents don't have time or energy to help with homework, attend school functions or even, sometimes, wake up in time to get Child A ready for school. As Child A ages, comes the responsibility of taking care of siblings. There are days Child A has to miss school because s/he has to stay home and take care of sick siblings while the parents are at work. Eventually, Child A falls further and further behind in school and, thus, when Child A's parents suggest s/he get a job to help support the family Child A does. Child A works 50 hours a week, making minimum wage, most of which goes to pay medical bills for parents and siblings, as well as for food, housing, etc. Is Child A lazy? NO! Just a victim of circumstances which created a cycle of poverty. Certainly, that child, or any person, can strive to rise above poverty, but sometimes that road is too treacherous and impassble, even for the most dedicated.
i totally agree that poverty does not occur as a result of laziness but it occurs due to bad implementation of policies within governments of poverty stricken countries. It is also as a result of high corruption ratesby these same governments who are unable to focus on development related policies due to their greed and misappropriation of resources. This in turn has effect on housseholds and inhabitants of a county as they cant access resources to provide them with their basic needs thereby causing conditons of poverty


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Is Poverty Laziness? The Philippine perspective
June 30, 2007 - 09:38 PM

There are a lot of factors to consider in determining the causes of poverty. Well, lazinesss can be one factor, but definitely it is not the sole factor in explaining it. Endowment of resources, opportunities, geography, governance, and history are just few of the other things that can help us trace the roots of poverty in a particular country. One of the people who posted ahead of me gave an example about the Philippines. I come from the aforementioned country and everything He said about the Filipinos is true. Our culture is very family-oriented, thus people strive hard to get the best for their family even outside of our country. As a matter of fact, my very own dad has been working overseas even before I was born. I grew up without him by my side. But he has to do it opportunities here are scarce and the pay is low, very insufficient to support a family. You may ask: Why the opportunities are rare? I will attribute this with the poor governance and political instability in this country. Evidently, these disturbances discourage foreign investments and cause undesirable market fluctuations. In the long run, economic vibrancy is declined and good opportunities are rare. We are never lazy people. We are among the most hardworking, in fact, I think every Filipino has reached every corners of the world just to keep their family surviving in the midst of financial difficulties they are facing in their very own country.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
July 24, 2007 - 03:15 PM

hmmmmm. I would like to say poverty is due to the lack of self discipline. in all developing countries, no self discipline thats why we are accusing each other. sometimes to leadership and sometimes to our lazyness. but we are lacking discipline, trust and cooperation.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
August 2, 2007 - 07:28 AM

No and i do think what contributes to poverty is dependency.It would be best if this word never existed.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
August 30, 2007 - 11:10 AM

There is no such word -laziness, just think about it for one minute, Whoops you`ve done some work there, never mind go and make yourself a coffee or tea - Whoops, I wish you would sit down and just be lazy for a minute.

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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
December 21, 2007 - 07:41 AM

I may not need to define poverty at this time because it is my beleive that everyone understands poverty depending on the presentation of the subject in their view.
I will like to only state here that poverty could be caused by so many factors of which Lazineness could be one.


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Re: Is Poverty Laziness ?
April 21, 2008 - 09:16 AM

My observations here in the US have been that the poorest people usually work the hardest, not the least. This is especially true of immigrants from Central and South America, who for a long time have been stereotyped as "lazy" by some of the more ignorant members of our society. Yet I have observed these same people working 15-hour days as construction workers, domestics, and other unappealing, physically-demanding occupations. Many juggle a number of jobs and work seven days a week to support themselves and their families. I'll never understand how this group came to be considered "lazy." There poverty is due not to a lack of effort but to structural factors such as lack of access to education and job training and racism.


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