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Jarra McGrath
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Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 11:08 AM
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"I believe because I believe."
Is Faith Irresponsible?
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 01:13 AM
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If faith = belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
And (Is Faith Irresponsible?)
therefore (Is belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion Irresponsible?)
Conclusion: Syntax Error. Does not compute. Question does not make sense.
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 02:29 AM
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Even athiests beleive in something, this is a faith... however I think that perhaps a lot of people perceive athiests as less irresponsible than dogmatists because people can be quite fanatical- sometimes leading to doing pretty grotesque things. Yet the athiest may also do grotesque things in the beleif that there are fewer consequences, or perhaps the faith that there are none (at least at an 'eternal' level).
Perhaps, then, it is not a person having faith that is irresponsible, but their unquestioning of it, or the actions they preform, that is.
Peace,
Michael
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 02:44 AM
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Is faith irresponsible?
If faith is based on a religious scripture assuming it as a true word of god to the dot and perfect to be followed in total without scrutiniy or reservation even if it proves to be destructive for followers and humanty at large, I am affraid, faith is a very irresponsible thing to have. Why? Because if the scripture means war, it cannot be translatd to mean peace. Moreover it is irresponsble to blame followers if the fault rests with the scripture.
To prove that there is nothing wrong with the scripture, the scripture must be examined fully without fear or favour. Only if nothing is found wrong in the scripture that one can blame the follower.
Only if religion teaches good ideas and practices but followers believe and do bad things that we can blame followers not otherwise.
It remains to be seen which religion has such a scripture that teaches 100% goodness and is perfect and very beneficial for humanity.
To have peace in the world all people must accept separation between their religions and states. Only if religions are followed in spiritual matters in a benefical way using the common sense as criterion that religions can be tolerated in present world order.
It is therefore time to re-evaluate things for oneself regarding religions than to blame others for being nasty towards religions. World is full of thiests and atheists and a way must be found whereby both sides could coexist in peace. Likewise the world is full of different opposing religions whose followers have done little favours to each other. Again we must find a way that people of all religions could live together. Not only that but each religion is full of sects ie there are groups within groups that are busy killing each other. This too needs to be stopped.
This is a clear case for compromise from all sides. None can be allowed to say that I am totally right and everyone else is totally wrong because that attitude is very basis of all the trouble. Therefore peace is not that easy unless we are willing to take some serious but helpful steps. It is therefore not the time for fight but serious brotherly talk. We all must be willing to accept that we all could be at fault here or may be only one of us is right, for it is impossible that we all are right the while we disagree and fight. This is the first step we must take ie be willing to accept the blame if it is found to rest with us. Making excuses would only prolong the problems and our misery and destruction. We must call a spade, spade. This is the only way forward.
So faith is utter foolishness if it leads us to destruction instead of better world. We are definitely better without such faith or religion.
That is how I look at things perhaps others would have better ideas to share.
Loads of love and best wishes.
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Adnan
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 05:13 AM
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Faith is'nt something that can be held responsible. You cant hold a knife responsible for killing someone and you cant hold a kidney machine responsible for saving someone's life. "Responsible" is not a word used with inanimate Objects. Its a PERSON, a human being who is ultimately responsible.
We're all responsible for our actions and lives.
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Ansari, Omar Mansoor
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 11:14 AM
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who said that?
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 11:25 AM
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i used to believe coz i believe but now i believe coz i'm convinced!
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by rimnour
i used to believe coz i believe but now i believe coz i'm convinced!
good point
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 11:37 AM
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ain't there neone else so we can continue discusing
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Re: Is Faith Irresponsible?
January 14, 2004 - 12:04 PM
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Is faith irresponsible - I am assumoing that this relates to religous faith. In that case faith itself is not irresponsible it is the interpritations and selective reading of religous texts that is irresponsible. Al religions preach serenity and peace however some people twist these texts to conform to their own world view, they then utelze theeir position to influence others.
I have seen comments here that religion is to blame for wars and recent terrorism, this is not so it is the objectified reading of specific texts and utelizing them as a martialing force for hatred.
Faith is not irreponsible but often the faithfull are.
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