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Awosusi Oluwatope
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Poverty in Africa
December 15, 2003 - 10:10 AM
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The rate of poverty in Africa is so high that young ones in Africa suffer so much.Atimes, I used to ask myself that which day will this come to an end.
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Re: Poverty in Africa
December 15, 2003 - 12:52 PM
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I'd like to think that some magic pill will be conjured up tomorrow and that no one will have to ever suffer from such a horrible disease. It's not to say that i've given up hope - more needs to be done to help the peoples of Africa. More funding, more food, more education and understanding. The ignorance surrounding Aids, is to me, greater a threat than the disease itself.
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Awosusi Oluwatope
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December 17, 2003 - 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by messy
I'd like to think that some magic pill will be conjured up tomorrow and that no one will have to ever suffer from such a horrible disease. It's not to say that i've given up hope - more needs to be done to help the peoples of Africa. More funding, more food, more education and understanding. The ignorance surrounding Aids, is to me, greater a threat than the disease itself.If aids will not solve the problem what do you think Africans should to do to increase their standard of living?
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conquista de derechos
December 17, 2003 - 12:04 PM
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lo importante para Africa no es la ayuda internacional sino la conquista de derechos como dijo Mandela.
los paises "desarrollados" han contribuido al subdesarrollo del asi llamado 3 mundo a travez de sus economias voraces y agresivas y el tercer mundo ha sido complise con su pasividad e indiferencia.
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AIDS Has No Cure
December 18, 2003 - 07:36 AM
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I have a personal heartbreaking story of young girl who contracted the virus through a blade during a cultural ritual in Zimbabwe. it got me thinking of how indisrciminatory AIDS is and it pains me that the world we live in is not sincere in their efforts to control this disease. AIDS is a genocide to the people in Africa especially in the Sub-Saharan region, as young people we need to network build strong relations across the world lets talk together about this disease because its killings us no-matter from what race or creed you belong to lets stick togehter and fight this disease
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AIDS Has No Cure
December 18, 2003 - 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by afrobeing
I have a personal heartbreaking story of young girl who contracted the virus through a blade during a cultural ritual in Zimbabwe. it got me thinking of how indisrciminatory AIDS is and it pains me that the world we live in is not sincere in their efforts to control this disease. AIDS is a genocide to the people in Africa especially in the Sub-Saharan region, as young people we need to network build strong relations across the world lets talk together about this disease because its killings us no-matter from what race or creed you belong to lets stick togehter and fight this disease
Hey! Your story is nice and pathetic but I am afraid you missed the point. The topic is poverty ok and the Aids referred to here is not AIDS. The former is the plural of Aid and talking about assistance in any form towards a course (Africans most see it in monitory terms) and the later is the Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome being the terminal stage of the HIV.
AIDS is not a responsible for poverty in Africa you know; it’s the other way round. The poverty in Africa is part of the reason why HIV/AIDS is getting wild and claiming more lives ok.
Coming back to the topic, the number one reason why Africa would hardly ever come out of its poverty related problems is hinges on its leaders. African leaders are responsible to the incumbent poverty in the continent. Outside their dictatorship and to make things worst, they embezzle all the funds on the nations they lead rendering them poor.
Everything being equal, African countries don’t need foreign aid, the countries are blessed with enough natural resources to handle its economy profitably but because of the overzealous leaders, with all the huge capital flights what do you expect?
Until African governments get democratic and stop embezzlement of state funds, never dream of getting that continent out of poverty. Who would champion this course then when every single African leader is corrupt to the bones? It’s sad but the reality.
Africa would continue to lick the wound of their colonial masters and incurring more debts I just wonder when these would ever be cleared. When the Heavily Indebted Countries initiative arrived, we thought things would get better but what do we see? These funds are used to by heavy and luxurious cars for the autocratic bourgeoisies at the expense of the common man down the ladder.
How do you explain the fact that a civil servants ‘of the upper circle’ in poor third world countries like Chad, Cameroon etc ride in some of the most expensive cars in the world when about 50% if their population don’t have access to free medical facilities, drinking water, education etc?
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the very rich, the very poor
January 21, 2004 - 09:55 AM
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I saw a documentary which showed an aspect of two people's lives in South Africa. The situation was shocking and my heart honestly goes out to those living in that sort of environment - the poverty, the crime, the racism, the lack of opportunity in their own country.
I've met a few South Africans out here in London and it just seems that if South Africans can get out of South African, they will, and with that the youth and the skills also leave the country. In that situation where you're able to get a job in a place where crime and racism is not so persistent, it would be difficult to consider going back when it just seems life would be so much harder and the value of currency so low.
The country needs industrial investment, ideally from within and not from some global corporation - but even with global corporations, you still require skilled people. Bit of a catch 22. The country needs better eduction, but for education you need money. If there were a better quality of free education, then there would be better chances, but even with education, there's no use if there are no jobs. I think, like Australia, if there were more jobs available and the industry/market were stronger, a lot of the skilled Australians would be happy to go back. It would probably be the same with South Africans.
That's just it though, it all comes down to the Government. If the Government is that corrupt, then obviously the rich just get richer, the poor stay poor, and the rest try to get the hell out. At least tourism gives South Africa a chance, and perhaps some of those South Africans that have gone in search of their dreams offshore will return and invest in their own country.
-- of course I've just spoken about South Africa as opposed to Africa itself. I know little enough about South Africa to even talk about Africa as a whole.
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AIDS Has No Cure
January 30, 2004 - 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by Abongta
[QUOTE]Originally posted by afrobeing
[B]I have a personal heartbreaking story of young girl who contracted the virus through a blade during a cultural ritual in Zimbabwe. it got me thinking of how indisrciminatory AIDS is and it pains me that the world we live in is not sincere in their efforts to control this disease. AIDS is a genocide to the people in Africa especially in the Sub-Saharan region, as young people we need to network build strong relations across the world lets talk together about this disease because its killings us no-matter from what race or creed you belong to lets stick togehter and fight this disease
Hey! Your story is nice and pathetic but I am afraid you missed the point. The topic is poverty ok and the Aids referred to here is not AIDS. The former is the plural of Aid and talking about assistance in any form towards a course (Africans most see it in monitory terms) and the later is the Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome being the terminal stage of the HIV.
AIDS is not a responsible for poverty in Africa you know; it’s the other way round. The poverty in Africa is part of the reason why HIV/AIDS is getting wild and claiming more lives ok.
Coming back to the topic, the number one reason why Africa would hardly ever come out of its poverty related problems is hinges on its leaders. African leaders are responsible to the incumbent poverty in the continent. Outside their dictatorship and to make things worst, they embezzle all the funds on the nations they lead rendering them poor.
Everything being equal, African countries don’t need foreign aid, the countries are blessed with enough natural resources to handle its economy profitably but because of the overzealous leaders, with all the huge capital flights what do you expect?
Until African governments get democratic and stop embezzlement of state funds, never dream of getting that continent out of poverty. Who would champion this course then when every single African leader is corrupt to the bones? It’s sad but the reality.
Africa would continue to lick the wound of their colonial masters and incurring more debts I just wonder when these would ever be cleared. When the Heavily Indebted Countries initiative arrived, we thought things would get better but what do we see? These funds are used to by heavy and luxurious cars for the autocratic bourgeoisies at the expense of the common man down the ladder.
How do you explain the fact that a civil servants ‘of the upper circle’ in poor third world countries like Chad, Cameroon etc ride in some of the most expensive cars in the world when about 50% if their population don’t have access to free medical facilities, drinking water, education etc?
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Firstly , I will like to thank you for differentiating AIDS and aids.More grace to your elbow. It is true that labours(government and private works) in Africa countries can't earn good salaries in their various countries.
I myself,the salary which I am earning is not attractive because of the economic situation of my country.Both government and private works are sufferring in Afica countries.
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Re: Poverty in Africa
February 3, 2004 - 12:40 PM
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Perhaps you are taking problems with too much relaxed spirit. You should tackle them in real time (ASAP). And with good discipline. Humanity can go really great things when focused at solving real life problems. Much needed is willingness to be willing to improve urself and enviroment around you. After that its only a routine.
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Re: Poverty in Africa
May 1, 2004 - 04:36 AM
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Poverty is for sure a huge huge issue. And I think we need to come together and find a solution to this issue as quick as possible.
One thing that would always make a difference would have to be dropping debts that countries owe. I've done alot of reasearch on this topic, and it seams that alot of countries are getting "deaper and deaper" in their own debts every year. This problem is not being solved. And personally I think that developed countries should drop the debts. Because dropping the debts for these countries would not have a huge affect on the people of the developed countries or the countries as a whole. Be this would only be the first step in bringing poverty to an end.
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Re: Poverty in Africa
May 4, 2004 - 04:34 AM
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Africa and poverty, sure it is a pin in a wound.
as an african boy born in and out of poverty, sometimes i am led to ask many questions.
we blame it all on our leaders, but why are our leaders like that? is it something cultural, is it something that was in God's plan, is it because other powers,say the west manipulates our leaders and encourages leaders who fullfill the interests of the west other than the interests of the common man?
why was i born african? was it by accident or on plan?
sure enough, people cause other people's suffering by grabing and grabing but i also feel strongly that the heart of everything goes beyond what we see and experience.
what if it is God's will that we be poor and that as time goes by we continue being poor and poor as the blessed west guys load over us and dictate our lives (no racial feelings here but i am just wondering for this is the state of affairs)
i think that africa should save itself from itself
this is possible if we accept our plight and our circumstances. true, we are poor and only heavens know if we shall ever measure up to any other continent. but we can live with these positively by teaching our people to live positively, in love, doing the best they can for themselves and for each other.
i am happy that other continents and countries try to help us. but the problem is that they give us the waste that is surplus in their countries as they ask for favours like us allowing them to manage our oil resources among other corporates.
let us fight the poverty that comes with yearning to be the other first, then positively work hard for better life
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Poverty in Africa, foreign aids also contribute.
May 4, 2004 - 05:25 AM
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All said and heard about the chronic nature of poverty in Africa. As an African myself and Nigerian to be precise, the genesis of our poverty can be historically traced to the era of colonialism in our various nations when we were being conquired and controlled economically, politically etc. Take Nigeria as a case study, being the most populous country in Africa and naturally blessed with both man and mineral resources, there was a prospect of advancement and good standard of living.
But with all we have, do we deserve living from hands to mouth? No! If the fact had to be said, African poverty has been grossly facilitated by these so-called "foreign aids" bcos what we don't know is that African nations pay back in double of whatever aids given to them. According to the survey conducted by one charity organisation, 80% of aid given by the developed nations to developing nations is conditional or string-attached. Why? Because they didn't want us to move forward.
I think poverty can only be pocketed or minimised if our leaders are ready to stop receiving all these so-called monetry aids from world bank and the likes. The reason is that we're being programmed to come and ask for aids all the time and we will continue paying back till kingdom come. Until our leaders reason logically and open their eyes so that they would be able to see beyond their nose, the problem of poverty will continue in Africa.
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Re: Poverty in Africa
May 4, 2004 - 07:20 AM
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I agree with some of your voices, lets not forget ‘our ‘ responsibility, we in TIG can contribute to make a huge difference!
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Re: Poverty in Africa
May 7, 2004 - 05:36 AM
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that is a good reminder. we should do something like; taking responsibility. we have expressed our views. what of concrete contributions does any one have a suggestion?
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Re: Poverty in Africa
May 16, 2004 - 12:53 PM
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Historically, poverty in Africa can be fairly blamed on the imperialism of western countries. The "mother countries" colonized the continent and took advantage of it, using it solely for cash crops, not crops that allow the people to sustain their lives. When independance (political and economic) is won, it is too expensive to convert the cash crop industries into more basic and vital industries (food production, etc.) But I think there is still hope for the survival and success of this continet; look at the recent improvement in Uganda. Women of Uganda were given small financial loans (as little as $50 US) to spend on whatever they needed to keep their families alive - for example, one woman might go and buy 20 chickens and sell the eggs, setting up a consistent income for the family and therefore improving the economy as a whole. With this, famine took a small decline, and consequently the AIDs rate has been reduced almost in half. This is, of course, all I have heard about this event and I should look deeper into the situation to see the additional benefits as well as the setbacks, but the point is that progress is not impossible and therefore the people should not lose hope. African leaders as well as aid-providing countries should realize that economic, political, and social peace is only a few steps away.
Of course, there is always the topic of war. When civil war rages in so many countries, the ability to sustain life by avoiding war/battle takes precedence over the ability to avoid famine and poverty. Once social peace is achieved, then the people and governments can focus on economic rebuilding. We all know the horrid effects war has on humanity, politics, and economy and thus cannot expect substantial strides until cultural conflicts are resolved, which could take lifetimes. Though I don't know how we can stop war, I do know we can hope for global peace and understanding.
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