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Being Politically Correct?
November 25, 2003 - 10:30 AM
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Hey,
I've been recently trying to figure out for myself if I am being too Politically Correct, or PC, and where to draw the line with it. And its been a continuous internal debate. Infact I'm starting to question whether being PC may be too controvertial... but I duno. I'm just confused about it.
Anyone have any ideas on how far is too far with being PC?
Johan
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Re: Being Politically Correct?
November 25, 2003 - 11:52 AM
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please specify what you mean by being Politically Correct (PC).
Is it:
1) To express your opinions on X issue, and these opinions being non-controversial By Chance, and thus these opinions being PC.
2) To convert your opinions to a certain, generally accepted, stanze in order to be PC. In order to not cause opposition.
Personally I try to always follow 1), but I do catch myself in modifying my thoughts/censoring them in order to not hurt other individuals. This sensitivity to the feeling of others may be "just PC", but does that make this sensitivity wrong?
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Re: Being Politically Correct?
November 26, 2003 - 08:37 AM
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Personally I think being politically correct can just get in the way of an honest discussion of issues - I come from a working world where you have to be able to speak your mind without constantly being worried who is going to get all self-rightous.
It is important to be respectful of diversity and other people - but I am not going to start spelling women - wymen or call short people vertically impared.
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Re: Being Politically Correct?
November 26, 2003 - 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by luke
Personally I think being politically correct can just get in the way of an honest discussion of issues
I agree entirely... I have come to believe that the so called political correctness is for people who acknowledge or believe in double standards.
And since most of the politicians and other power hungry individuals have to rely on double standards to succeed, it only becomes apt to phrase some of their thoughts as politically correct, considering what gets them the mileage at that instance.
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Re: Being Politically Correct?
November 27, 2003 - 02:37 AM
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I agree with you Luke to a certain extent, since I find some modified words as purely euphemisms although I also find political correctness necessary especially when talking about people, regardless of gender. I use congresspersons instead of congressmen or women, for example. I think it is necessary that we correct a language which is reflective of inequity. I am just happy to say that in the Tagalog language, gender bias is really not pronounced. Good thing, we don't have a word for she or he, just a simple 'siya' when referring to a third person. In Tagalog, we also do not have a word for husband or wife, just the word for partner-"asawa."
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Re: Being Politically Correct?
November 27, 2003 - 08:10 AM
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Hey Everyone,
Thanks for replying!
Well I always thought that being politically correct was to try and address the real and perceived discrimination(of race, gender, sexualities, etc.) within language. I am involved in a student group and it has a lot of trouble surrounding inclusivity because of terms that are used consistently but members of the group not realizing that it could make in impact on why a group of people would not feel comfortable. In this case its inclusivity of women. Usage of the words “bitch” which is slanderous to women and contribute to the animosity between the two groups.
I’ve been trying to promote a kind of affirmative action type thing and also promoting dialogue within the group members to help them understand that words do hurt people even if they don’t think they would. I was attacked for apparently trying to suppress speech. I thought that I at least brought up the topic of being politically correct quite comfortably and not forcing it on them.
I really find it necessary to make comments about being PC, but its frustrating now that when I do make a comment about someone stereotyping Asian people – that an excuse is that they are just being sarcastic. How often can one be sarcastic about a joke about a certain people, how they act, or how people are – be funny?
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Johan
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Re: Being Politically Correct?
December 29, 2003 - 07:10 AM
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Luke: it's womyn, actually.
I think that people are entitled to their opinions and to be able to express them. Personally, however, I wish that sometimes people would be more careful about the impact their words can have on others. In the US, at least, a backlash to the perceived pressure to be PC is hurting liberals politically. Sometimes, I think, people just have to "suck it up" and realise that not everyone's going to be nice all the time. That's life.
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