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Parth Trivedi

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How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
December 31, 2011 - 02:12 PM

Basically, this is about finding solutions to the problem of animals being brought to life simply to be put to death brutally for the benefit of the the human society (meat-eating, or any other use of animals). Yes, I understand that it's the food chain we're talking about here, but we're going against nature by doing intentionally giving birth to animals. And also, keeping them in huge quantities in a small space, locked up is something that should be considered equal to human torture. On the other hand we try to help animals in different aspects, but we seem to ignore these things. I always believe in equality. However, I understand due to current global economy, it is mandatory to be practicing this or else there will be a shortage of food, at least for a while. That's the point of this thread; to find out what you think.

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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
January 21, 2012 - 01:30 PM

The most prudent course of action we can take is to stop supporting the heartless institutions which are causing and benefiting from this process.

Mahatma Gandhi used to refer to evil as a "parasite." This means that it requires YOUR energy to live. So by simply not participating in the system which gives them their energy (funds) you are actually crippling them in a sense.

The most pragmatic solution to the problems caused by the meat industry is the vegan diet. In fact, in June of 2010, the United Nations released a report which declared that a "global shift towards a vegan diet is vital to save the world." Not only is the animal agribusiness devastating to the animal kingdom, it is also terribly destructive to the environment, the economy, and of course the people who eat their "food".

Outside of the context of a dietary transition wherein the DEMAND and SUPPORT for the meat industry subsides, there is no absolutely no way to reduce or eliminate animal slaughter. If you dont stop feeding the parasite it will continue to grow, plain and simple.

Everything else is just expanded commentary.


Check out the link for more on the UN declaration
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet

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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
January 30, 2012 - 05:57 PM

Hey, I completely agree with you. I'm a vegetarian by-choice so I don't really buy their products, but I sure would like to do much more to try to put an end. Is there anything I can do?


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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
January 31, 2012 - 02:54 PM

I agree. If we stop supporting companies that produce meat by doing inhumane things to animals then they won't be financially stable enough to keep going. To do this would be a great challenge, more than just a few people would have to commit to this or it wouldn't really make a difference all. A shift towards vegan or even vegetarianism would be a great step forward.


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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
March 19, 2012 - 06:52 AM

Feeding the world hunger is always the common excuse used to justify all the killings. The only way I see it with a solution is still by converting to vegan diet. Again the question is whether we want to commit ourselves to it or just stop by with only words.
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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
March 27, 2012 - 07:49 AM

This is an interesting topic that leads to many questions. Is killing domesticated animals better, worse or the same as killing wild animals? Can one get all the important nutritional ingredients one needs from a vegetarian diet? Are certain landscapes more suited to animal husbandry than plant agriculture? I think it is safe to say we should be eating far less meat than we do.

Veganism seems a little severe to me. I don't think the bees would miss a little bit of honey. I also think dairy products that come from humanely raised animals have an important role in providing needed vitamin B12 and calcium. Don't argue with me on this. I know someone who had her stomach removed because of stomach cancer and she needs regular intravenous vitamin B12, calcium and iron shots.

In an ideal world, we would all eat organic plant food with small amounts of humanely raised animal foods. We don't live in an ideal world. The world's population is growing too quickly, desertification is increasing, global warming marches on. The only new arable land will come at the expense of rainforests and other delicate ecosystems. Gene manipulated agricultural products won't be enough to save us.

I think we will seriously have to consider eating insects and worms. I hear crickets, water bugs and grasshoppers are very nutritious... and delicious! What do you think?


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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
March 27, 2012 - 05:58 PM

Basically, how I see is that as human beings, we are also considered animals. although being a vegetarian, I still believe eating meat, or other plants shouldn't be considered 'immoral', since animals eat each other or other plants in order to survive. But what I see wrong with the picture is that animals are brought to life only to be killed to feed us. The way they're being treated is like they're not living things, but just another product of the global trade. I don't think there's anything moral with that.


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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
April 4, 2012 - 03:07 PM

I feel that people need to think about all animals on the same level.

How would a meat-eater feel if someone killed their dog and ate it? it would be horrible.
If a dog is an animal and a pig is an animal, shouldn't the response be the same? it should all be considered the same. If you wouldn't eat a dog someone killed you shouldn't feel any better about eating a chicken, pig, or cow.
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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
April 4, 2012 - 11:21 PM

There are many countries where dogs are on the menu. I suspect most dog and cat food we feed to our pets contains meat by-products. I guess we kill other animals to feed our pets! Maybe we shouldn't have pets?


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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
April 13, 2012 - 03:24 PM

I guess it's a catch 22 situation with regards to feeding pets pat food that has animal by-products in it.

One easy solution is to go veggie or vegan!

check out Forks over Knives! a really great documentary on the negative effects of eating meat and animal products

http://www.forksoverknives.com/

some of my friends watched this doc and went vegan. it's that good!
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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
April 18, 2012 - 04:33 PM

Hi,
I agree that we need to do something about it. I'm actually interested in the slaughtering of horses and how to stop it. It is delicacy in Europe and they have no cares about the horrible way they are killed! Although it is illegal in the United States to kill horses, it isn't in Canada and Mexico. Any thoughts about this issue?

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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
April 22, 2012 - 12:22 AM

Write a petition and get signatures. Then send it to the European and Canadian parliaments. i help you to get more signatures.
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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
April 22, 2012 - 04:01 AM

I live in Japan where, as you probably know, whaling is still going on on an industrial scale. Like one of the previous posts, the thought of killing such majestic animals that sing so beautifully under the sea is very controversial. I never buy whale meat here in the Japanese grocery stores, and frankly I have never seen any Japanese people buy it either. It just sits there in the meat department freezer unsold. My reason for not buying it may be shocking, however. At the top of the ocean food chain, the minke whale that is most often "harvested" by the Japanese is full of mercury and other toxins. That and it tastes like liver. But the point I want to make is that we shouldn't romanticize certain animals (horses, whales, etc.) and mindlessly eat other less romantic animals. We progressives should be consistent: either don't eat any animal because they are all sentient beings, or eat them sparingly because they are inefficient converters of plant protein into animal protein. I fall into the last camp. I still feel, as stated earlier in this thread, that meat does provide some essential nutrients that our bodies need.


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Re: How to Reduce/Eliminate Animal Slaughter
April 24, 2012 - 02:12 AM

Referring to the most of guidance and recommendations either from the religious teachings or experts findings, eating and consuming too much meat (as is consumed by most people) are not witnessed. Looking at the life styles of prophets of God and great thinkers and scholars, almost the same results are witnessed.
On the other-hand, overweight is one of the most health problems of the contemporary man. We are converting lots of food and specially meat to making ourselves overweight.
It seems we can solve it by
1- eating less meat which will cut down the consumption and killing of animals in general and killing of horse and whale in particular.
2- when some of us eat less meat, hopefully those who are not able to purchase and eat a little meat find a chance to eat some.
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