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ian rae

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Re: Gender Equality
Jan 6, 2015


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mullrae wrote:


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Dear Ian,
This will be only a 'wish' unless documented and justifiable literature is prepared. Perhaps universities and experts are to provide the written material.

To my understanding Marx explanations for history is the most accurate but what he foreseen and recommended for the future could be discussed. When discussions for the works of such a bright man is needed, then how could workers go through and become united without agreed guidelines?
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we do it on things like tig everyday no problem the technology is here amongst us.


Ian,
I suppose it would not be enough. Look how many people participate. Participation is low.
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agreed but as I think mao said a journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step and we are definitely beyond the first step how many miles to go is a different matter.


I am not sure that we can base our future on Mao' thoughts and principles.

As I see, Capitalism is not even what Adam Smith intended to imagine.

Capitalism might be the 100 senators and lobbies who send them to the senate who do their best to run the whole planet in an apparently and hypocritically democratic platform. Capitalism is the cause of many unfairness's in the planet.

The white police in the North America is not to be blamed, neither the young Americans and Europeans who joined ISIL.

It is the institutionalized Capitalism that has documented and implemented measures and procedures to run the planet on injustice.

Only documented and well organized substitutions and prepared people and organizations may ever be able to replace Capitalism, otherwise Capitalism will continue to exist and what we say here would only be talks.
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I am a member of the WSM world socialist movement and we have companion parties in a number of countries yes we haven't huge numbers of members and we started in 1904 well over a hundred years ago but we have no leaders and still manage to keep to our principles proof that even against all the pkwers of capitalism a good idea will always find a way.


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Re: Gender Equality
Jan 15, 2015

Dear Ian,
I do not find a strong and planned strategy in WSM world socialist movement. Perhaps you may tell me if I am correct?
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Re: Gender Equality
Jan 15, 2015


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Dear Ian,
I do not find a strong and planned strategy in WSM world socialist movement. Perhaps you may tell me if I am correct?
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no obviously you cannot plan anything until people are onboard so to speak and unless you want socialism we dont want you to come on board to understand is the first thing to join then organise.


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Re: Gender Equality
Jan 19, 2015

I believe gender equality is lacking in America. Women are unfairly treated in the work force while men are unfairly treated in domestic life. Historically, women were looked down upon, and therefore, men were expected to work and "bring home the bacon" while women were expected to clean house and care for the children. This typicality has created the stereotype that the work force was made for men and domestic life for women. Although America has evolved in considering women and men equal, there are still gender injustices. Women still face difficulties in acquiring jobs when competing with men simply because of their gender, and, for the majority, women are payed less than men. However, men are faced with difficulties as well. Men who are stay-at-home dads are frowned upon for not being the provider of the house. If a women wants to work and a man wants to clean, cook, and care for his children, then why shouldn't they? Children need a mother and father and someone to care for them and someone to provide for them. Who is to say the mother is destined for one role and father for the other? As long as the kids are taking care of and the family has a steady income, then there should be no issues as to whether the man or women is caring for the kids or whether the man or women is "bringing home the bacon".


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Re: Gender Equality
Jan 20, 2015


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I believe gender equality is lacking in America. Women are unfairly treated in the work force while men are unfairly treated in domestic life. Historically, women were looked down upon, and therefore, men were expected to work and "bring home the bacon" while women were expected to clean house and care for the children. This typicality has created the stereotype that the work force was made for men and domestic life for women. Although America has evolved in considering women and men equal, there are still gender injustices. Women still face difficulties in acquiring jobs when competing with men simply because of their gender, and, for the majority, women are payed less than men. However, men are faced with difficulties as well. Men who are stay-at-home dads are frowned upon for not being the provider of the house. If a women wants to work and a man wants to clean, cook, and care for his children, then why shouldn't they? Children need a mother and father and someone to care for them and someone to provide for them. Who is to say the mother is destined for one role and father for the other? As long as the kids are taking care of and the family has a steady income, then there should be no issues as to whether the man or women is caring for the kids or whether the man or women is "bringing home the bacon".
this only relates to the working class the rich wether men or women live totally different lives.


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Re: Gender Equality
Jan 20, 2015

I agree with you that in most aspects of life women and men are treated differently no matter their income. However, I targeted the working class because every person will eventually need to financially support themselves. The unfair treatment in the work force is the most apparent gender injustice considering it affects almost all women and men and can determine a persons life style.


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Re: Gender Equality
Jan 20, 2015

Children grow up believing they must follow society’s dogma: boys will be boys and girls will be girls. These stereotypes even go as far as telling them what types of jobs they can perform adequately as an adult. Women’s gender roles have caused a significant and problematic difference in women’s income as compared to the wages of men. Part of the issue of distorted gender roles is that women are paid less than men. Sexism rooted in society shifts the mindsets of young women into believing male-dominated, high-paying jobs, including computer science and engineering, are geared exclusively for male “nerds.” The media’s inaccurate portrayal of “womanly” jobs leads society to feel that these jobs are unimportant; therefore, less pay is given. Women deserve the same chances to pursue any dream career choice that they aspire to. Women should be able to do any job men have the right to do and be paid equally despite the fact that the media and society leads them to believe otherwise. If women are willing to provide the same if not more talent and effort than do men, then they should be welcomed with open arms and equally equipped to any job that sparks their interest. Women are just as proficient, just as talented, and just as willing as any other person. Women should not feel the need to conform to normal gender roles if their hearts desire a profession that adequately portrays their ambitions.


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Re: Gender Equality
Jan 21, 2015


Hensarling wrote:

Children grow up believing they must follow society’s dogma: boys will be boys and girls will be girls. These stereotypes even go as far as telling them what types of jobs they can perform adequately as an adult. Women’s gender roles have caused a significant and problematic difference in women’s income as compared to the wages of men. Part of the issue of distorted gender roles is that women are paid less than men. Sexism rooted in society shifts the mindsets of young women into believing male-dominated, high-paying jobs, including computer science and engineering, are geared exclusively for male “nerds.” The media’s inaccurate portrayal of “womanly” jobs leads society to feel that these jobs are unimportant; therefore, less pay is given. Women deserve the same chances to pursue any dream career choice that they aspire to. Women should be able to do any job men have the right to do and be paid equally despite the fact that the media and society leads them to believe otherwise. If women are willing to provide the same if not more talent and effort than do men, then they should be welcomed with open arms and equally equipped to any job that sparks their interest. Women are just as proficient, just as talented, and just as willing as any other person. Women should not feel the need to conform to normal gender roles if their hearts desire a profession that adequately portrays their ambitions.
Therefore as long as we allow capitalism to continue gender inequality will remain.


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Re: Gender Equality
Feb 13, 2015


KatherineWhit wrote:

I believe gender equality is lacking in America. Women are unfairly treated in the work force while men are unfairly treated in domestic life. Historically, women were looked down upon, and therefore, men were expected to work and "bring home the bacon" while women were expected to clean house and care for the children. This typicality has created the stereotype that the work force was made for men and domestic life for women. Although America has evolved in considering women and men equal, there are still gender injustices. Women still face difficulties in acquiring jobs when competing with men simply because of their gender, and, for the majority, women are payed less than men. However, men are faced with difficulties as well. Men who are stay-at-home dads are frowned upon for not being the provider of the house. If a women wants to work and a man wants to clean, cook, and care for his children, then why shouldn't they? Children need a mother and father and someone to care for them and someone to provide for them. Who is to say the mother is destined for one role and father for the other? As long as the kids are taking care of and the family has a steady income, then there should be no issues as to whether the man or women is caring for the kids or whether the man or women is "bringing home the bacon".


Catherine,
I have a question to ask you as a woman and perhaps a mother.
According to your experience and in general and not specific, is the love of a mother stronger to kids or the love of a father?
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Re: Gender Equality
Feb 16, 2015

there must be equality between man and women
even if man are capable to do things women can't, we should not put an accent on it. we are all equal. If not, let man give birth to kids wink


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Re: Gender Equality
Feb 27, 2015

Could any one recommend on "how to implement" the equality?
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Este aporte fue editado en: 2015-02-27 at 04:42 AM by: Farhad


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Re: Gender Equality
Feb 27, 2015


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Could any one recommend on "how to implement" the equality?
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Este aporte fue editado en: 2015-02-27 at 04:42 AM by: Farhad
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Re: Gender Equality
Mar 7, 2015


mullrae wrote:


farhadmiriany wrote:

Could any one recommend on "how to implement" the equality?
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Este aporte fue editado en: 2015-02-27 at 04:42 AM by: Farhad
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I meant in real practice and not in theory.
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