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Iran and the bomb.
September 26, 2009 - 04:57 PM
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What do we feel about Iran having a nuclear capability?
Personally I feel that every scrap of nuclear material should be put on a rocket and blasted into space.
However, if a country wishes to have a nuclear weapon then surely it is up to them.
Lets face it, nobody turned a hair when Israel got their weapons. Nobody cared when then guy who blew the whistle was lured from London to Rome and then kidnapped.
Israel is desperate that nobody else should have these weapons because they want to be able to threaten everybody in the region.
Well maybe if a few more countries had this terrible weapon, Israel may not be as eager to steal land and build illegal homes.
Once everybody has the disgusting things they will cease to have a security cache and everybody will look for something else.
Hopefully I will be resting in the ground.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
September 26, 2009 - 07:12 PM
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Hi,
You know we have a bad situation down here in Iran about political,life being and...
But I wanna say that Iran has a well known power if a war occurs.
for example war between Iran and Iraq that many countries supported Iraq but Iran was on it's own,so I think they don't need nuclear bombs to harm any country...
but we need nuclear energy to help our states to have electricity power and help people to have a good life...
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
September 28, 2009 - 09:04 AM
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I agree with you on one thing; that when Israel had its nuclear projects...no country ever opposed to it, not even uncle sam and the Brits (which of course Israel's allies).
The US (with France and Great Britain)condemns Iran for this action because Israel made them to...they actually kiss Isarael's ass. You know...The US can never sanction Israel on its nuclear plants coz they love the Jews...these Jews actually made the US for what it is now.
I am not a pro-Iran nor anti-Israel... i just want to emphasize that if other countries can have its nuclear power plant so can Iran. If Iran's President says it is for the betterment of the country, then let it be. if eventually they will use it against Israel or any country that opposes them...then just be ready i guess.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 1, 2009 - 12:03 PM
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I think that Iran should be able to have nuclear material as long as we send inspectors into Iran to see if they are making a nuclear weapon.
Nuclear energy gives off almost no air pollution. The only negative side effects of nuclear energy are its nuclear waste which can be shot into space or stored on the earth with minimal effect on the environment compared to usual means of obtaining energy.
I think that it would be bad for the environment and for the rest of the world not to let Iran have nuclear energy.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 4, 2009 - 12:13 AM
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Iran has every right to develop a N-bomb. Its a kind of colonial mindset that some nations are incapable of thinking in a civilized manner while others (like GB,USA,EU,Israel) are so civilized that they would practise restraint when it comes to nuclear warfare. Who is a rogue nation and who isn't in ternms of the Nuclear arms race, only time will tell.
But I agree that we don't need nuclear energy or weapons in our world. If nuclear energy was so helpful, I don't think Karnataka would have had power shortages even with the kaiga nuclear plant.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 6, 2009 - 02:49 PM
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Iran's leadership are terrorists and can not be trusted, nobody in their right mind would say that they have every right to have a nuclear bomb, exceptt for very childish and unintelligent people like some here.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 7, 2009 - 01:52 AM
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I think all six people involved in this thread more or less agree that Iran has a right to possess nuclear weapons only because many otehr countries have it. So are we all childish ?
Anyway, I stumbled across this link on Iran's nuclear programme.
http://www.juancole.com/2009/10/top-things-you-think-you-know-about.html
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 7, 2009 - 12:37 PM
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sidsayed wrote:
I think all six people involved in this thread more or less agree that Iran has a right to possess nuclear weapons only because many otehr countries have it. So are we all childish ?
Anyway, I stumbled across this link on Iran's nuclear programme.
http://www.juancole.com/2009/10/top-things-you-think-you-know-about.html
That's six people that have no clue what they're talking about mate. Ignorance is common on boards like these especially when most of the people tend to be very uneducated, especially in developing countries.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 7, 2009 - 12:40 PM
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Payab wrote:
foster88 wrote:
Iran's leadership are terrorists and can not be trusted, nobody in their right mind would say that they have every right to have a nuclear bomb, exceptt for very childish and unintelligent people like some here.
See how easy it is for a English man to say the word Terrorist. Come on grow up, you think that the americans and the English will rule the world till the end of world.
Lets put it this way, You have a nuclear power and you can use it anytime you want on anyone you want. Iran want a nuclear because they can, and they will use it on anyone they want at anytime the want. So what is the big deal.
And ya you think that Iran trusts UK and USA and all other European countries for having Nuclear power. No they dont, coz USA and UK are hungry for the blood of Irani people, the only muslim state which is powerfull in this era, and they want to get rid of it asap.
The middle east is the way it is because many arab states and religin are incompatible with human rights and freedom.
We in the west are much more advanced and are capable of having nukes without threatening to use them in war without cause.
Iran, on the other hand is much like Nazi Germany, a very Jew-hating mentality that denies the holocaust.
Should people like this be given the opportunity to have nuclear weapons?
Of course not, only a fool would say so.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 7, 2009 - 01:01 PM
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foster88 wrote: Ignorance is common on boards like these especially when most of the people tend to be very uneducated, especially in developing countries.
if you thought ignorance on such boards was common maybe you should discuss your views on more "informed" boards where there aren't any "uneducated" people from developing countries.
the world doesn't revolve around the queen. i think you're actually exhibiting your ignorance about the rest of the world because you can't accept that it is possible for people in the rest of the world (yes it exists) to have a different view from what you think. i understand it must be very surprising to know that there could be different opinions on what you think is the civilized route nations must take. like i said before, its a colonial mindset that beguiles people like you into believing that even if you use a nuclear bomb it is for 'moral' good, and if the 'enemy' uses it its a barbaric act of monstrous proportions.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 7, 2009 - 01:18 PM
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foster88 wrote: We in the west are much more advanced and are capable of having nukes without threatening to use them in war without cause.
While the attack on Pearl Harbour was deadly and terrible, the retaliation was the bombing of Hiroshima and nagasaki. I don't see that as much restraint. I'm not for any proliferation of nuclear weapons but I don't understand this mentality that the west is responsible while the otehrs are just brutes.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 14, 2009 - 01:24 AM
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foster88 wrote:
Payab wrote:
foster88 wrote:
Iran's leadership are terrorists and can not be trusted, nobody in their right mind would say that they have every right to have a nuclear bomb, exceptt for very childish and unintelligent people like some here.
See how easy it is for a English man to say the word Terrorist. Come on grow up, you think that the americans and the English will rule the world till the end of world.
Lets put it this way, You have a nuclear power and you can use it anytime you want on anyone you want. Iran want a nuclear because they can, and they will use it on anyone they want at anytime the want. So what is the big deal.
And ya you think that Iran trusts UK and USA and all other European countries for having Nuclear power. No they dont, coz USA and UK are hungry for the blood of Irani people, the only muslim state which is powerfull in this era, and they want to get rid of it asap.
The middle east is the way it is because many arab states and religin are incompatible with human rights and freedom.
We in the west are much more advanced and are capable of having nukes without threatening to use them in war without cause.
Iran, on the other hand is much like Nazi Germany, a very Jew-hating mentality that denies the holocaust.
Should people like this be given the opportunity to have nuclear weapons?
Of course not, only a fool would say so.
Iran is the way it is today because Britain with the help of the U.S. forced it to overthrow its own government. It was well on its way to becoming a democratic nation before, but Britain got all pissy because Iran wanted more profit (30%) from the oil being taken from THEIR land. So what did the U.S. and Britain do? Boycotted Iranian oil, and guess what? Iran did not care. So then since that lovely plan backfired, Britain and the U.S. took it upon themselves to go into Iran and overthrow the government, replacing it with the shah, a monarchist who killed people for simply criticizing the government and removing freedom of speech.
You are very ignorant and close-minded to be saying that countries and religion are incompatible with human rights and freedom, and to be declaring that anyone who supports their developing of nuclear bombs are ignorant. Your argument is weak, based on a very judgmental opinion, seeing as the only basis for your argument is the false statement that "the west is more capable of having nukes and not threatening to use them for war." You think that just because the West may not explicitly state the use of their weapons it does not pose a threat? Why do you think we have those weapons in the first place? The entire reason the U.S. rushed to develop nuclear weapons was not scientific discovery, it was simply an arms race with the Soviet Union to see who could do it first, in an effort to basically say, "Look, we have it too, now don't throw the first punch or everyone will end up with a black eye."
When you speak, you show your knowledge, or lack thereof. And you have only proven a lack to everyone on these boards.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 14, 2009 - 09:27 PM
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So many useless idiots on this board saying Iran has the right to have nuclear weapons, well I guess you all know better than the rest of the international community and the UN.
You're just jealous and envious that the west is more powerful and successful that you would like to see a Muslim Nazi leadership have the capability to start a nuclear war with Israel.
It's a good thing mates you have no say in real life, because the world would be a much more dangerous place with you kids running it.
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 15, 2009 - 09:03 AM
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foster88 wrote:
So many useless idiots on this board saying Iran has the right to have nuclear weapons, well I guess you all know better than the rest of the international community and the UN.
You're just jealous and envious that the west is more powerful and successful that you would like to see a Muslim Nazi leadership have the capability to start a nuclear war with Israel.
It's a good thing mates you have no say in real life, because the world would be a much more dangerous place with you kids running it.
This post was edited on: 2009-10-14 at 09:28 PM by: foster88
It is a good thing YOU have no say in real life, the world would be a much more dangerous place with close-minded and ignorant people like you running it. Too bad it is "us kids" (who have shown more education, intelligence, and cultural acceptance than you) are the ones who are going to make a difference in this world, and finally for the better, no thanks to your generation.
Jealous idiots? Your argument has no logic whatsoever. How about you take the history lesson I just gave you and put it to use and try to educate yourself before you come on these boards simply ranting about topics over which you have no knowledge about. You have not stated facts, only biased and rude opinions with no argument to back them up.
It makes me very sad to think that you are only perpetuating the false perspective that everyone in western countries have such judgmental views. Now how about instead of angrily spewing rude comments and insults you actually try to have an intelligent, decent conversation with somebody? Or is that too hard for you to understand?
This post was edited on: 2009-10-15 at 10:21 AM by: xmystaticheart
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Re: Iran and the bomb.
October 15, 2009 - 02:43 PM
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Payab wrote:
foster88 wrote:
So many useless idiots on this board saying Iran has the right to have nuclear weapons, well I guess you all know better than the rest of the international community and the UN.
You're just jealous and envious that the west is more powerful and successful that you would like to see a Muslim Nazi leadership have the capability to start a nuclear war with Israel.
It's a good thing mates you have no say in real life, because the world would be a much more dangerous place with you kids running it.
This post was edited on: 2009-10-14 at 09:28 PM by: foster88
You are not doing well in using words like "idiots" in this social and respected TIG forum. It clearly shows your attitude to others who just want to discuss a topic with you.
I am not jealous because even if your western countries become Super Super Super power, and when it comes to front lines your soldiers suffer, being a super power means nothing if you are not a super in your faith and ambitions.
Americans and English forces are suffering in Afghanistan, they cannot defeat a damn AK47 and RPG. Now dont blame them for using gorilla tactics because your soldiers are trained as super soldiers...
lets come back to this topic...if you think that the world is not a very much dangerous place NOW, then you better not even discuss such topics...come on wake up...85,000 Iraqis died, 1400 Palestinians died, many afghan were died, and still you are saying the world is not dangerous place?!!!! Now if Iran wants to join hands in becoming another dangerous country then it is their RIGHT TO BECOME A NUCLEAR POWER...simple it is !!!!
Any person that says Iran has every right to have nuclear weapons is an idiot, plain and simple.
I don't have to respect idiots in any way shape or form, I'm just calling you people out for what you are.
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