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Terri Willard

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Skipping School
October 15, 2003 - 04:44 AM

Skipping school? Why? What does it really mean....?

The Globe and Mail Newspaper in Canada has an interesting story online today (http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031015.uabsence1015/BNStory/National/) about school absenteeism in OECD countries. Everyone is trying to figure out whether it's a big problem or not. According to the data, Canadian students skip school a lot more than many others - yet seem to feel a strong sense of belonging to school and community, and score higher on literacy tests than many students who do sit in school all day. Go figure.

As far as I can figure out, it is based on some of the reports coming out of the OECD Programme for Student Assessment (http://www.pisa.oecd.org/). If you poke around long enough on the site, you get to http://pisaweb.acer.edu.au/oecd/oecd_pisa_data_s3.php where you can cross-correlate data for yourself.

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Re: Skipping School
October 15, 2003 - 06:26 AM

Skipping seems to make kids feel "cooler" and "popular". I also think it might have to do with underlyind problems at home, such as abuse or depression, drug abuse as well.


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Re: Skipping School
October 15, 2003 - 06:41 AM

Originally posted by horsechick7442
Skipping seems to make kids feel "cooler" and "popular". I also think it might have to do with underlyind problems at home, such as abuse or depression, drug abuse as well.


Well, first, the above study would beg to differ and certainly is totally different than what you said.

Second, I believe the study was of high school kids, but I would like add my 2 cents about university students. I know a lot of people who skip classes, including myself. Now, in my case, I actually know what is going on in these classes and in one case suspect I know more about the teacher. She is the only teacher who can't get the projector to work and she's the computer teacher!

I would also like to put forward that the study is somewhat biased. You have kids who skip school all the time, then you have kids who never skip class. Then you get a middle group that go to class and sometimes skip class. If I had to go to all my classes all the time, I think I might actually lose brain cells (no joke). So in this case, you have three distinct groups of classroom attendence.


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Re: Skipping School
October 16, 2003 - 07:09 AM

In India, if you are (rather, were for me) absent, you were supposed to get your parents note in your personal diary the next day, else you would not be allowed to sit for casses the next day. so... sadly, we could never bunk.

but in college, we had a concept of mass bunking. all students used to decide a date and everyone in the class would be absent on that day. anyone present on a mass bunk day used be considered a traitor. so it was automatically a holiday.
sometimes we did it just for fun but sometimes it was for studies or completing our submissions.

but anytime bunking school is not good. college Ok.


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Re: Skipping School
October 17, 2003 - 11:54 AM

Wagging school... a thing that is real common in New Zealand. To your peers it looks as if you're cool because you get to skip school, but at the end of the day you're the one missing out.

Nowadays at our school, your parents have to call the absent line and leave a message before school, and by second period a computer generated handout is given to all teachers, stating who will be absent in what period for what purpose. It seems to crack down on "waggers" quite nicely.

After all, our parents paid an endless amount of money to prepare us for the future, the least we can do is disappoint them.


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October 18, 2003 - 05:02 AM

I have skipped sessions - many in college, few in high school - especially under teachers who did not really care about the attendance. But I would say I did it not because I was just lazy for the day or wanted to go somewhere else. I did because I believed that skipping those sessions would be etter than attending them. Sometimes, self-study works especially if the subject doesn't really need much explanation from teachers (and you can also have group study later).There was this one subject which was required for everyone and the class was too big and one is better off perusing the assigned readings, so I skipped half of the sessions that semester.


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Re: Skipping School
November 23, 2003 - 07:19 AM

I went to high school mostly in Atlantic City, so the academics were not very good. I used to skip school alot, just because I was so far ahead of the rest of the class. I would basically get bored with it. I did my own studying at home, and I was far ahead of the class. I was already in the highest class, and I had already been moved up a grade. Yet still, The classes were moving very slowly. I suppose that it worked out fine for me though. I never had anything lower than a 4.0 my entire high school career.

For anyone still in high school, I would never reccomend simply skipping school just for kicks. You should not waste your ability to learn, take advantage of it while you still have the chance. School is great, you can never know too much, right?


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Re: Skipping School
November 23, 2003 - 09:02 AM

I just thought I'd add an interesting fact from my own experience:

I had one semester in university where I took 7 courses (yes, 7, two more than the average student). I skipped classes on a daily basis, attending only for midterms. Instead of going to classes I sat in the library and read textbooks or worked on assignments and labs. At the end of the semester I had 6 As and 1 C. Oddly enough, the C was in a course lectured by the Chair of the Engineering Department for whom I worked, and thus I could not skip class.

My theory around this is that I pay a heck of a lot of money to buy the foolish books, so why not read them. Most of my lectures consist of taking notes thrown up on overheads or written on blackboards that end up being summaries of the chapters that I have to read anyway to find out the context of the statements and derivation of equations for the theoretical portions of the tests.

And so, I am much better at teaching myself than someone else is. If I do need to ask a question, I find a classmate or go see the professure during his scheduled office hours.

As for the class I got the C in, I later did my thesis in this area and got an A+, so not to worry!


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"Cutting"
November 23, 2003 - 09:30 AM

Well, i think it really depends on the person...
From time to time, there's just those days when you feel you cant absorb anything that its impossible to learn! Why stress yourself right?
But then again... you have to do everything in MODERATION else youll end up failing the subject.

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first time... so, is this site full of discussion boards? Sorry ig i sound so ignorant 0_o


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Cutting Out
November 23, 2003 - 11:54 AM

When I was in high school I cut classes on a regular basis. Basically, I didn't feel like I was "connecting" to anything that was going on at school. I felt like the learning wasn't relevant to what was going in my life or what I saw my life being like in the future. When I think about it, I'm surprised that I managed to complete high school and even go on to university.

Besides not feeling any connection to the so-called learning that was happening, I didn't feel that I was making any meaningful connections to other students or teachers. I wish now that a teacher would have realized that I was falling through the cracks and taken me under their wing. Teachers are often astute when it comes to sensing our failings academically, but they don't always see students as human beings who are developing on a variety of different levels.

As a teacher, I hope that I will not fail my students like this and that I will always see them in a human way with a academics being only a small part of who they are.


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Dfferent situations..
April 3, 2004 - 02:42 AM

Reminds of the good old memoirs of college days at Royal, candidly speaking I too had been into “bunking” classes due to many reasons, primarily we all bunk our general
English classes and students consider it’s not of any importance and they would set off to the library and study Chemistry or Physics. Some of our guys are into skipping
classes and then going for tuition classes instead. Some skip the school to remain at home and cram as it’s a mammoth competition here for the pinnacle grades.
Cheers,

Udara


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Skipping School
April 29, 2004 - 09:54 AM

Skipping school makes kids feel cool. People who skip school also try to get other kids to skip school as well. People who skip school are also trying to stick it to the teachers when they "ditch" school


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Re: Skipping School
April 29, 2004 - 10:02 AM

Everyone skips school at some point - i know i did. Now I'm at college I still miss some classes occasionally. If it becomes a consistant thing then it becomes a problem - but it's not like it's something new. I know my dad talks about he used to skive off sometimes, - it's something that happens - we all do it at some point but it's not going to destroy the world


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shipping school
May 17, 2004 - 11:27 AM

I really do not think that skipping school is cool. But sometimes it might be necessary to ship school. For example of a student was not aware of a test then he/she should skip school to have more time to study and then do the test the next day or something. So i would say that there are both good and bad sides of skipping school.


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Re: Skipping School
December 9, 2004 - 10:51 AM

I don`t think it`s so much an issue of coolness, as of being bored or rebelling. Not necessarily rebelling in the "I`m going to go to drugs" way, but its nonetheless a manifestation of discontent with the system. I know I skipped prolifically in high school, and it was mainly because I was 12-17 years old, bored with most of my classes, and wanted to spend more time having fun with my friends. It`s hard to do trig on a gorgeous early June Friday afternoon big grin

I think a large part of it is that school isn`t all that much fun, with the majority of traditional teachers and methods, and students can think of better things to do.

And on a side-note, I skipped all the time in high school... and am now a teacher....


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