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[Poll] how the media makes kids violent
October 14, 2003 - 02:52 AM
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Children these days are too violent because of the shows they watch and the video games they play. I know some kids are already just crazy, but there are still games max payne. they are really violent and gory. they also promote using drugs. These games are popular to kids so to be cool kids think you have to kill each other. They also get the idea from television shows that are violent. kids then try to be like their favourite characters from their favourite violent shows.
do violent games/tvshows make kids more violent?
yes
(7 votes for 77.78%)
no
(2 votes for 22.22%)
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 14, 2003 - 06:11 AM
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How, you ask? TV shows like wrestling, which is staged, make kids try the moves that their favorite wrestlers do, some kids really hurt themselves. Also video games like Max Payne or Counter Strike make little kids think killing some random person is fine. These things also promote drugs. In games like Max Payne, to get heathy, gou have to find pain killers
I think this message speaks for itself
Ur buddy,
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So?
October 14, 2003 - 08:03 AM
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Do you suggest something is done about it?
And where is there any scientific proof that violent media causes agression in children?
If a parent can't teach their child that killing and violence is wrong, and they let them get influenced by violent media, it's bad parenting, not bad media.
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it can't be Media
October 14, 2003 - 10:02 AM
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Justin
i do belive that your words were right,
as we can't say that's media is the only reason,
its like an equation, you can't have the chemical reaction with one sub. only,
its Parents, Media, School, Friends, the Kid's personality him self. many factors.
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 14, 2003 - 10:48 AM
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It is not media only since socialization involves a lot of factors - including parenting as Justin noted. That is why we know it is important for parents or guardians to guide their children in watching non-GP movies for instance and explain to them scenes which they might not completely understand.
I haven't also read any study (just news articles) about video games for instance causing aggressive behavior in children. Hope one could provide a link.
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 14, 2003 - 11:21 AM
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If you think about it sports have all the same elements -
Football is basically a war game, so is soccor and Basketball.
Should kids be discouraged from playing football?
There is no use in pointing fingers at the idiot box - morality is learned from interactions with real people.
Europe has much more sexuality on TV and their divorce rates are lower.
The US has alot of violence in the media - the middle east doesn't - there is less violence in the US.
There was violence before television existed - the same level if not more.
Anti-social behavior really has nothing to do with entertainment - I read comics as a kid constantly - always pretending that I was battling the bad guys with toy gun and plastic swords -
I can't remember the last time I got in a fight.
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 15, 2003 - 05:24 AM
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yes, children may be easily influenced by what they watch on television, however its the parents resposibility to decipher what right and wrong for their children. If the child is aware of the line between television and reality, then they shouldnt be excessively violent at all.
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 15, 2003 - 07:33 AM
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I think you are partially right. Some of the influence comes from the media. But kids can and should form their own thoughts, style and decisions.
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Hugh Switzer
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 16, 2003 - 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by luke
Football is basically a war game, so is soccor and Basketball.
Last time I checked, I didn't need to hurt the other person as much as possible to win (which is how violence ends)
Should kids be discouraged from playing football?
No, because there are more things than just pain in football. You develop skills, teamwork, coordination, and enjoyment. I don't think you do all these things otherwise.
There is no use in pointing fingers at the idiot box - morality is learned from interactions with real people.
Very true.
The US has alot of violence in the media - the middle east doesn't - there is less violence in the US.
Canada has even more violent media (movies are rated lower than in America) yet we have a much lower rate than the USA. Amazing 
There was violence before television existed - the same level if not more.
This may not be true.. do you have any information to back this up? What the media HAS done is both a) allowed people to see things that anger them, hence creating more violence, but at the same time b) created much more understanding for other cultures, races and countries.
Anti-social behavior really has nothing to do with entertainment - I read comics as a kid constantly - always pretending that I was battling the bad guys with toy gun and plastic swords -
It COULD, but in most cases it doesn't.
I can't remember the last time I got in a fight.
Well... I can think of people who get in fights and they aren't anti-social and are certainly not inspired by the media to beat someone up.
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 16, 2003 - 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by tykorc191
TV shows like wrestling, which is staged, make kids try the moves that their favorite wrestlers do, some kids really hurt themselves.
This is because the kids who do this are young and are unable to seperate fantasy from reality.
Also video games like Max Payne or Counter Strike make little kids think killing some random person is fine.
Hence the rating on the box that says "suitable for people 17 and up"
If they're so little, they probably can't afford the game anyway, so in this case, it would be the parent's fault, not the media's.
These things also promote drugs. In games like Max Payne, to get heathy, gou have to find pain killers.
Again, Max Payne is also rated "MA" for 17 and up. If I got hurt by falling down or something and saw that Max can take pain killers to help, then I'm not going to go inject myself... sorry. And if you didn't notice, if you ever got shot, medics give you pain killers
I'm also not going to go do a line of coke because Max is taking "pain killers" Him taking drugs doesn't change MY view on drugs in the least.
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 27, 2003 - 05:03 AM
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I was looking for studies correlating video games, or other forms of media, with behavior. Newsweek's special issue for August 25/September 1, 2003 had this:
(+) Positive impact:
1.) Videogames enhances visual performance. Cognitive neuro-scientist Daphne Bevalier, after conducting tests, "concluded that action-packed videogames enhance the capacity of visual attention and its spatial distribution."
2.) "There's even some evidence that gaming may make kids smarter- or at least test better. James R. Flynn, a philosophy professor at the University of Otago in New Zealand, says that videogames may have contributed to an increase in scores on IQ tests that measure quickness in solving pattern-recognition problems."
(-) Negative impact:
"According to a study by psychologist Craig Anderson of the University of Missouri-Columbia, an overload of emotion-charged imagery can increase antisocial behavior. In a study of college students published in 2000 in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, he found that playing violent games like Mortal Kombat correlated strongly to aggressive personalities, poor academic performance and delinquency."
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
October 28, 2003 - 03:42 AM
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yes, I think violent games/media can have a negative effect on some youths. But I think that these youths must have some anti-social or aggressive trends already in order for this media to have a negative impression on them.
To a sound youngster, playing games like Counter Strike, or Quake 3, is not harmful. That person will not go around with a shotgun killing classmates or teachers. But if that person already has an aggressive trend, then, yes, these games, or that death metal music, or reading Hamlet, or anything can be of "inspiration" for him/her to go out and do destructive things.
Our challenge here is not to stop these antisocial people from having access to these media things, but rather it is to try to include everyone into society in a meaningfull manner. My bet is that even if we today take these games away from the market, banning them for instance, there will still be thousands of issues which will be of destructive influence on these people.
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Re: how the media makes kids violent
December 23, 2003 - 07:46 AM
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Hugh you say that football teaches kids team-work so does counterstrike seeing as you are a team of people going to fight terrorists or vica-versa. And also you see on the news war and violence and drugs and do i read anyone complaining about that no because its brought to you in a different medium but it is still there and can still affect some one. I mean seeing a animal kill something could hypothetically help a child become more aggressive does that mean that we should stop children from watching animals? Also american football or gridion is violent it is a bunch of well built men running around and tackling people for a ball or working with others to tackle someone for a ball these people get broken bones, cracked skulls and so on and they are hailed as heroes because of this where as in a school yard a kid sticks up for himself or a friend gets punished and is told not to do so isnt that a bad influence teaching kids not to stick up for themselves or for what is right but saying that they should go out onto a field or an arena or a ring or what ever they chose and hit someone and get respect and paid for it. Also they ask us to join the army which promotes killing and destruction why dont they ban that? anywho i will stop talking now being only 16 i dont know much of the world but these are my views so agree or disagree this is what i think
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Well Hugh...
May 5, 2004 - 04:39 AM
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LA DEE DA! So what if the medics give me pain killers? That's for medical use, not so I can be "cool" and get high, pass out on a couch, get found and sent to the hospital by the police AND THEN go to jail for possession of an illicit substance. Also, if Max Payne is some little kid's favourite character because he sees his older brother or who ever playing it, that little kid might say "HEY! Apparently drugs are cool so lets go to the medicine chest and stuff my self with random pills because it"s "cool?"" HA HA! What do you say to THAT?
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The Facts
May 11, 2004 - 02:16 AM
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Here is a short list of studies documenting a strong link between media violence, and drug use to behavior:
Surgeon General Special Report, 1972
National Institute of Mental Health Report, 1982
American Academy of Pediatrics Policy, 1995
American Psychiatric Association, 2003
Leonard Eron Study, University of Michigan
Grossman Study, 1999
New York Times Investigative Report, 1999
Huessman Study, Ann Harbor
Center for Media Education, 1997
Christian Science Monitor Investigative Report, 1996
Huston and Wright Study, 2002
Cogner Study, Stanford university, 2001...
The list goes on. Even though media violence, drug use, profanity, and irresponsibility are one of many factors contributing towards negative behavior, it is a strong factor, with a closely tied link to behavior. Eliminating these problems in the media will be a first step in eliminating them in the real world.
Michael Cartier
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