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casual drug use = substance abuse?
June 24, 2009 - 05:21 PM

What do you think about casual drug use? Do you think it is the same thing as substance abuse?



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Re: casual drug use = substance abuse?
September 1, 2009 - 08:03 PM

It would be unfair to equate casual drug use with substance abuse because there are people who simply use it to relieve certain ailments. However I do agree that it is a stepping stone in that direction. Considering that over a period of time, a certain amount of resistence is built by the body to the drug, the quantity becomes increasingly greater and it's usage increasingly frequent. Seeing that most medications treat the symptoms and not the ailment, one may be inclined to become dependent on it. This is where addiction develops.

For approximately 6 years I have not taken any form of patent medication, for fear of a dependence, for in previous years, I felt as though I was beginning to become somewhat dependant on ibuprofen. Even though I do not believe that a casual drug user is in the same boat as a substance abuser, they definately are in the same harbour.


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Re: casual drug use = substance abuse?
September 7, 2009 - 01:20 PM

No, No, No. The people who are running the 'War on drugs' subtly changed the words from drug use to substance abuse because by using the term abuse it sounds like child abuse or physical abuse and it demonizes the drugs.

In truth, many people use drugs for recreational purposes without any problems at all.

Governments have tried to control different substances at different times in the history of the world. At one time Queen Victoria would be a happy user of Laudanum and at others the sale and distribution of alcohol was illegal.

Right now many of the South American countries are talking about making drugs legal which is probably the best way to defeat the drugs gangs. Drugs would be sold by government run shops which could control the purity, which is one of the biggest causes of drug death, and would be able to give advice on how to kick the habit.

When it becomes legal, there is no cache about doing something illegal so that would be a whole bunch of people who would not bother with drugs.

Then there is a whole bunch of money that would be saved by customs, police, courts and prisons that wouldn't have to bother with drug users.

Seems to me to be a win, win situation.
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Re: casual drug use = substance abuse?
September 7, 2009 - 04:00 PM

The answer to that question is complex, because, for one thing, it depends on the substance.

One can casually use some substances, like Marijuana, for example, to no ill effect. And that should not be considered "substance abuse."

Unfortunately, in the U.S. in 1937 the powers that be established Prohibition laws that were based on falsehoods and ignored much scientific evidence. Then again in 1970 Marijuana was falsely reclassified as a “Schedule I Drug” right along with hard drugs and narcotics like heroin.

Since then every 45 seconds an American is arrested for "substance abuse" or "possession." And U.S. prisons are crowed with people who are incarcerated simply for violating invalid and misguided Marijuana laws.

As for the "Gateway drug" claim about Marijuana, here's what I found in a great article about it, and I quote:

In spite of false prohibitionist claims that Marijuana is a “gateway substance,” reliable studies have shown that “at least seventy million people have used marijuana and 98 percent of them did not proceed to hard drugs or narcotics.” (Grinspoon and Bakalar in Marijuana: The Forbidden Medicine and Marihuana Reconsidered.)

Furthermore, studies cited in Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts, by Linn Zimmer and John Morgan, also show that: “For the vast majority of marijuana users it is a terminus (a goal, or a boundary or limit) rather than a gateway drug.” And, according to the U.S. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), even though “75 percent of illicit drug users use marijuana, only 18 percent of them use another drug as well.”

That is confirmed by a U.S. National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine report in 1999, which states: “There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs.” In fact, the main reason some Marijuana users come in contact with drug dealers who may sell other drugs is because Marijuana is illegal and is treated as an illicit drug. If it were legal, the vast majority of users would not even look at other drugs. Some would, of course, but not because they first used Marijuana.

There is similar proof to refute most other false claims that prohibitionists make about Marijuana, such as the absurdly false claim that it is “addictive.” In fact, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine confirmed in 1999 that “marijuana rarely even causes psychological dependency.” And, while the same report stated that some researchers claim to have identified “a distinctive marijuana and THC withdrawal syndrome in some users,” even those researchers had to admit “it is mild, subtle, and short lived.” In other words, the vast majority of Marijuana users can stop using it at any time without any withdrawal symptoms or psychological dependency.

The preceding quote was excerpted from an article titled The Plant of Renown, by Joseph J. Adamson.

This post was edited on: 2009-09-17 at 12:24 PM by: abbarighton


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Re: casual drug use = substance abuse?
September 14, 2009 - 01:53 PM

yes, causual drug use is the same as substance abuse.
you shouldnt even be using drugs in the first place because they are harmful to your body.


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Re: casual drug use = substance abuse?
September 14, 2009 - 01:54 PM

casual drugs are uber fun. so is casual sex


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Re: casual drug use = substance abuse?
September 20, 2009 - 02:22 PM


AmberE123 wrote:

yes, causual drug use is the same as substance abuse. you shouldnt even be using drugs in the first place because they are harmful to your body.


That is not true of many substances. Prohibionists lead people to believe otherwise, but they are misguided and foolish regarding certain substances.

A case in point is that just as Prohibition of Alcohol in the U.S. in the 1920s was foolish, counterproductive, and enabled an organized crime wave, so has the Prohibition of Marijuana, which scientific studies show is safe for 98 percent of users.

Besides that, scriptures speak of both alcohol and Marijuana.

The great and wise Solomon in Proverbs 9 wrote: “Wisdom has built her house and she calls to all: Come, eat my food and drink my wine and you will live abundant life and walk in the ways of understanding. Forsake the foolish, and live. Go in the way of understanding."

I will raise up for them a Plant of Renown, and they shall no more be consumed with hunger [for truth] in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. Thus shall they know that I the Lord their God am with them, and that they are my people.” (Ezekiel 34:29-30)

Marijuana is The Plant of Renown, and Joseph J. Adamson shows us why that has been misunderstood and not revealed. Read his article, The Plant of Renown.


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Re: casual drug use = substance abuse?
October 3, 2009 - 02:31 PM

The real 'Gateway' drug is caffeine. Every drug user has tried it more than once before moving on to harder stuff like nicotine and alcohol.
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