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Elizabeth Wilson
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Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
June 24, 2009 - 11:30 AM
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Girls at ‘Jane’s’ local high school terrorized her. It started as name calling and spitting, and then progressed to bullying through MSN Messenger.
At a Toronto health centre, she told a counselor about the bullying incidents and also shared her desire to “kill” the bullies, along with a “plan” for getting back at the main bully.
The crisis counselor then called the police on Jane, worried about the severity of the threat.
Jane was jailed, released two weeks later under strict conditions, and was eventually acquitted.
So here's my question:
Would you have notified the police about Jane's murder fantasies? Or would you discard them as justified and at the same time - negligible?
Where should the patient’s expectation of confidentiality start and end?
Article Source: Kiwi Commons
This post was edited on: 2009-06-24 at 11:32 AM by: KiwiSeminars
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Re: Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
June 25, 2009 - 01:29 PM
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Jane's counsellor, instead of pacifying the girls emotions and giving her necessary support, called the police and got her arrested. The incidenet is very unfortunate as the Counsellor breached the Confidentialty.
First, being bullied at school and then being jailed for expressing her hatred for being bullied gets the victim more punishment.
Instead of tackling the vice of bullying, the Law enforcement authorities harassing the victim is bound to create a psycho disturbance in the poor girl Jane and loss of faith for other victims. Hatred killings and violence at schools might rise.
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Robert M
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Re: Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
June 25, 2009 - 04:08 PM
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siddiq92 wrote:
First, being bullied at school and then being jailed for expressing her hatred for being bullied gets the victim more punishment.
She was jailed for expressing her hatred toward the kids bullying her, not toward the act of bullying. While they might seem the same, or often come hand in hand, they are completely different.
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Re: Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
June 28, 2009 - 06:16 AM
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Thanks for correcting me Robert! Your observation is right - the act and the actor are not the same!
The girl needed counselling while the bullies at school some reprimanding. Both of them needed reconciliation. Why don't the schools address this?
Actually, If I were the counsellor, I would have accompanied Jane to school, got to know the bullies and invite all of them to a picnic. I would have sorted it - the hatred & bullying out myself. this matter needed delicacy as adolescents were involved.
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Elizabeth Wilson
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Re: Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
June 30, 2009 - 10:13 AM
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This incident happened in Ontario Canada, where cyberbullying is covered under the safe schools policy.
But there's the debate as to whether it's the school's business to deal with cyberbullying incidents that happen after school and off school grounds.
This post was edited on: 2009-06-30 at 10:25 AM by: KiwiSeminars
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Re: Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
July 2, 2009 - 01:06 PM
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A counsellor is supposed to take care of the girl psychologically and mentally. In this case, the girl obviously has psychological issue. The counsellor should have tried to cure her instead of calling the police, which will deteriorate the matter.
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Elizabeth Wilson
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Re: Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
July 30, 2009 - 03:06 PM
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While I certainly agree that it is indeed the councilors role to keep tabs on the psychological state of the schools students, it is also their responsibility to asses the seriousness of her intent to do harm.
I would think that once identifying a troubled mind, it would be a logical next step to contact the parental figures prior to getting the law involved. It is obvious that by divulging these fantasies to a guidance councilor that she is lacking a proper outlet. This would also allow insight into properly assessing her mental and emotional condition.
Perhaps by talking to her parents as a first step, she would be provided with the necessary support/care and not be further isolated by a negative experience of opening up to someone she trusts.
What next steps do you feel the guidance councilor should have taken?
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Re: Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
August 6, 2009 - 11:10 AM
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The health worker in this case had every right to call the police when "Jane"voiced her desire to kill but it was not the right thing. Instead the worker should have heard "Jane"out and maybe talked her out of murdering the bullies. Now i am no health worker but i know that jane is not crazy. This desire of revenge on our tormentors is one that was bred into us from the beginning. We hate to lose control of ourselves to others and once we do we immediately begin to think of revenge. Now don't get me wrong, i agree that murder is a little over the top but deep in our hearts and minds you and i both know that if we were in Janes position we would probably be thinking the same thing, I admit it is the animal in us that causes us to think like Jane has, regardless of the consequences. But that is what we are, are we not, still animals and glued to our animal roots until evolution deems us fit to move on to the next level of thinking.
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Re: Here's a controversial case - Bullied Girl Behind Bars
August 30, 2009 - 09:14 PM
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and what happened to the bullies in school . were they reprimanded for their aggression towards the kid .
calling the police was not really necessary , the fact that she talked about the act of killing , shows her as a sane person reaching out so then she would not go insane , a psychologist would have been much better .
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