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Educational Time warp
May 12, 2009 - 11:14 AM
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I just got this wicked idea and i told i'd share and get some opinions
Basically it started by reading and commenting on this forum. I keep remembering what I learned about ancient greek. You know, socratic teaching and all that.
I think that at this day and age, by the time we get into high school, we're smart enough, mature enough to not just sit an listen. I think instead, that our education should be like in the old days when there were discussions and arguments with a respected person (teacher) to help guide the conversation, say inspiring things to get us all thinking.
I think that right now, a teacher just simply knows more than the student but that's not what makes a teacher.
I personally don't think that a teacher is there to tell us what we don't know but rather make us question and love to question
Back then, when Greece was florishing, it was one of the golden age of education and I wonder what is it that makes it different from now?
Why don't we have famous philosophers whose voice can actually be heard by people not trapped in an old dusty book in the darkest corners of the library?!
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Re: Educational Time warp
May 12, 2009 - 04:29 PM
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iamkam wrote:
I just got this wicked idea and i told i'd share and get some opinions
Basically it started by reading and commenting on this forum. I keep remembering what I learned about ancient greek. You know, socratic teaching and all that.
I think that at this day and age, by the time we get into high school, we're smart enough, mature enough to not just sit an listen. I think instead, that our education should be like in the old days when there were discussions and arguments with a respected person (teacher) to help guide the conversation, say inspiring things to get us all thinking.
I think that right now, a teacher just simply knows more than the student but that's not what makes a teacher.
I personally don't think that a teacher is there to tell us what we don't know but rather make us question and love to question
Back then, when Greece was florishing, it was one of the golden age of education and I wonder what is it that makes it different from now?
Why don't we have famous philosophers whose voice can actually be heard by people not trapped in an old dusty book in the darkest corners of the library?!
Thats like what we have on the S.P.L.I.C.E project. We haev teachers working alongside us who are there as guides and as you say we run the conversations and they are just our 'guides on the side' in case we go off track etc. They will say things like "Thats all very well. But is that the idea that you want to show?" Just small things like that, And sometimes we do involve the 'guide' in our discussions, her opinion her ideas are inputted etc. Its a really cool way of doing things 
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Liza Bolton
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Re: Educational Time warp
May 13, 2009 - 02:04 AM
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Oooh! I like this idea a lot. As Marcus has said, it is similar to how the S.P.L.I.C.E. Project works. From this experience I know it is a learning structure I thrive in, but I wonder if it would suit every one. In the qualification system here (NCEA) there is a mix of ‘internal’ and ‘external’ assessments. One of my friends does very little studying, note-taking or actual work during the year, because he doesn’t ‘like’ internal assessment much. He works really hard at the end of the year (when our external exams are) and does very well. I prefer internals because you can work on a project over time, and discuss your ideas. I don't think he would enjoy this suggested style anywhere near as much as I would.
So my question is... Would this discussion based way of learning benefit everyone?
And if not should we group people based on learning style or expose students to a range of ways of learning to promote their ability to draw value from a range of experiences?
iamkam wrote:
I think that at this day and age, by the time we get into high school, we're smart enough, mature enough to not just sit an listen.
I think that right now, a teacher just simply knows more than the student but that’s not what makes a teacher.
I personally don't think that a teacher is there to tell us what we don't know but rather make us question and love to question
I really like these points Kam, though I would fear that the first statement doesn’t apply to all high school students. I think it is certainly a reasonable expectation, though.
“question and love to question” You’ve hit the nail on the head in my opinion!
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Re: Educational Time warp
May 13, 2009 - 03:46 AM
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iamkam wrote:
I just got this wicked idea and i told i'd share and get some opinions
Basically it started by reading and commenting on this forum. I keep remembering what I learned about ancient greek. You know, socratic teaching and all that.
I think that at this day and age, by the time we get into high school, we're smart enough, mature enough to not just sit an listen. I think instead, that our education should be like in the old days when there were discussions and arguments with a respected person (teacher) to help guide the conversation, say inspiring things to get us all thinking.
I think that right now, a teacher just simply knows more than the student but that's not what makes a teacher.
I personally don't think that a teacher is there to tell us what we don't know but rather make us question and love to question
Back then, when Greece was florishing, it was one of the golden age of education and I wonder what is it that makes it different from now?
Why don't we have famous philosophers whose voice can actually be heard by people not trapped in an old dusty book in the darkest corners of the library?!
Excellent thought! I share your views on the topic. Teachers should encourage students to questions as I've mentioned on other threads. What do we define as an education? Is it listening and accepting everything our teachers say? No. Its about questioning and finding answers to our questions. Its about forming our own ideas and views. That's an education.
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Lim K.S
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Re: Educational Time warp
May 13, 2009 - 07:56 AM
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Basically time changes everything. I do agree with you that there do exists an education time warp or perhaps education difference.
What is practical last time might not be practical today. Besides, people do change. What many people I heard said education back then was more strict rather than practical compared today.
Perhaps this differs demographically. In Malaysia, students challenge teachers, at times insult teachers. In fact, people do charge teachers in court if they scold students above limit.
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