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Saladin Abuhamdieh
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women and men
May 12, 2009 - 05:58 AM
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we always hear and heard since a long time .. of human rights and women rights
especially in the developing countries.. they still trying to empower women in the social... political.. economical... and other sides of life
due to religion reasons or customs and traditions or misunderstanding of women nature they didn't for a long time and they still controlled in some community
there are physical... mental differences between men and women...
the structure... how they think... they feel. and their minds
equality in some things and inequality in other things
each one of us has different thoughts...
how you define women rights! what do you think the rights they should be equal with men.. or more... or less
how to give them better role in developing communities..
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Re: women and men
May 12, 2009 - 09:38 AM
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Woman and man are equal in everyway, of course except physical. The only thing is that in the islamic countries they think that only man has the power in everything and woman has the the right to be treaten as a slave.
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Re: women and men
May 12, 2009 - 02:05 PM
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taline78 wrote:
Woman and man are equal in everyway, of course except physical. The only thing is that in the islamic countries they think that only man has the power in everything and woman has the the right to be treaten as a slave.
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if some communities traditions treat women as slaves.. that doesn't mean islam is like that.. read about what islam gave the women... and you will know that if we applied islamic rules about women... we won't need any other rights or rules for them...
i totally agree that some islamic communities don't treat women they way it should be... but look at the past also in the west they didn't treat women very well also...
read about before islam how women lived and how they lived after...
wrong actions doesn't mean wrong thoughts...
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just to question what you... that in every thing...
so you agree to work as a blacksmith.. or builder!
specify things they should be equal in.. and things they can't be equal in.. after all they both have some different roles...
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Re: women and men
May 13, 2009 - 02:11 AM
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I am not talking about all teh islamic countries. but some of them. I know all about islam cause i am one. I am just telling you till now even the open minded islams have in some way they treat woman as she must only be a housewife, they never accept that she can be better person than the man. Actually this is for all, not only islams. All the man likes to be more powerfull than woman.
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Re: women and men
May 13, 2009 - 05:10 AM
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well... now i know what you mean...
but don't forget this problem.. that we as arabs and muslims these days care more about what people say that Quran sometimes... especially here
i think it's less in other countries maybe...
thats a reason! for some men not to accept!
and if they didn't give the woman her rights! i don't call them open minded people... coz they are open minded in what!
and as i told you... people do more the customs and traditions that some of it actually far away from islam rules or against it...
and thats the man nature.. to ask and try to earn power...
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Re: women and men
May 13, 2009 - 06:44 AM
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You are right. but in order to change this mentality we need to lead them towards a new path. in your opinion, can they be changed? i mean their mentality.
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May 13, 2009 - 10:02 AM
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They should have equal rights....both men and women....the core of the thing is that men are practising their rights but women are far behind compared to men....women need to be empowered using social tools like education, access to technology and all the basic requirements that person needs.
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May 13, 2009 - 10:58 AM
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hello, i am a student from america and am curious about foreign cultures, if you wouldn't mind sharing information about your culture please contact me at:
sstrubeck@gmail.com
thank you
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Saladin Abuhamdieh
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Re: women and men
May 13, 2009 - 03:20 PM
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taline78 wrote:
You are right. but in order to change this mentality we need to lead them towards a new path. in your opinion, can they be changed? i mean their mentality.
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yes i think there can be a change... but the differences will be what communities will accept it.. and how will they react.. some need more time than others...
and will they apply it! thats the question coz i meet some people who say they are open minded.. they are free.. they want a change.. but they don't let their sisters leave out of home
but i believe there can be a change...
but hope people will understand it
in my city.. it's getting better for women.. and my city considered as the city of strict religious people...
and there are many of them... but for me not religious...
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Re: women and men
May 13, 2009 - 03:34 PM
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yashoda wrote:
They should have equal rights....both men and women....the core of the thing is that men are practising their rights but women are far behind compared to men....women need to be empowered using social tools like education, access to technology and all the basic requirements that person needs.
and thats what many women need... education...
there still some girls getting married before 18 or 17
i wonder how they gonna raise their children to take their role in life.. or how even them going to do that!! ummm
one of the reasons that europa developed fast after the wars they had... because they empowered women in social life more than before...
thanks Yashoda 
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Re: women and men
May 13, 2009 - 03:41 PM
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strubes wrote:
hello, i am a student from america and am curious about foreign cultures, if you wouldn't mind sharing information about your culture please contact me at:
sstrubeck@gmail.com
thank you
sure
will be glad to do that... and i hope others
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May 13, 2009 - 10:18 PM
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Shawn,
It would better if you made us clear about the aspects that you would like to know about our culture...
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May 13, 2009 - 10:30 PM
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I agree with you Saladin that many of the girls are being married before 17 or 18 years. In Nepal, maximum girls in rural areas get married before they reach 18 years and also they bear child as soon as possible. These girls even dont have education of high school. In this scenario we can imagine....that a girl is bound within the works of house, rear the child and also be a good housewife, mother, wife and a daughter-in- law.
Urban women are more concious, they dont get married before they complete their undergraduate or graduate courses...at least they hold jobs and are self-reliant but it doest not apply to all.
Empowering women needs a continous effort of individual, family and the nation itself. It cannot be done by the nation or any single agency but it needs the continous combined effort. It should start form the girl herself, she would be able to recognise good and bad..then family should enhance her potentialities, she should be given every opportunity that a boy gets...and for nations they are putting their efforts but are not just successful because of the constraints like religios beliefs, geographical barrier and cultural values and beliefs.
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Saladin Abuhamdieh
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Re: women and men
May 14, 2009 - 05:36 AM
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Yashoda
the problem here is that in rural and urban zones.. we have the same problem... there are better awareness now.. but still it's too much i think... one of my friends told me in here class there are 7 who are engaged and 1 or 2 married... and they are maximum 18!
and thats also in urban
also a friend of mine got married just 2 weeks ago ... in the final exams time!!!
and her sister told me since she got engaged until she got married... her school marks became soooo bad...
i can make 10 papers of stories like these for even younger girls!... and many of them regret after getting married in this young age
i think parents should start first to help their daughters... and make them conscious and aware about that....
i think the family and the community should start first!... then the girl... she is already don't know the consequences of what she getting her self into...
or at least many of them... unless the girl is smart to know that without her family...
if i could do something... i would put a rule that getting under 18 won't be accepted in the court that is responsible on marriage.... and social life...
empowering women... is it the first or the last step? what do you think?
should we empower them to have a better community...
or develop our community so women can have their role to make it better...?
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July 2, 2009 - 02:20 PM
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"Everyone is created equal, that has certain rights that a government cannot take away". Men and women are simply two forms of humans. They are like two children created by God. They are supposed to be equal in terms of rights, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness.
It is stereotypical to say that men and women should be born for something. Everyone is different, and it's the difference and diversity that develop the world.
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