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[Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 3, 2009 - 08:52 AM
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We know education expense vary. Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
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(6 votes for 66.67%)
No
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 3, 2009 - 09:18 PM
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Students should be charged better not Monetarily but perhaps in Kind. 
There are plenty of students graduate(say for any specialised/general stream)without any visible contribution to the State Resource (i.e Teachers, Administration & Infrastructure )they use. Above all there is phenomenal Brain-Drain. The state Economy requires the return in the investment they make in a Student. However instead of a direct charge Administration can motivate the power & energy of the Youth in a smart way. 
Things like Volunary Participation, Community Development should be mandatory for passing exams. But Administration should act innovatively. Extra-curricular activities better not to be restricted only in events like Annual Sprots & Debate Competition. Education can be more inclusive where Teacher-Student relationship will be more participatory. Uses of modern alternative teaching methods help here. 
It not only utilizes the huge Human Resource that Asia is bubbling with but incorporates a strong sense of belonging to the community/college rather one's country. 
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 3, 2009 - 10:44 PM
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In New Zealand the government use to subsidise the entire tertiary education sector until about 15 years ago I think. Now although they still subsidise it, it’s a lot less than they used to. I personally believe that as these students are our countries future they shouldn’t have to pay fees. I mean these are our future tax payers- in 5-8 years they are going to be working in careers, not jobs which have a substantial pay rate. This will be mean they will be heavily taxed, is it fair to charge these students this way? I mean the government should be investing in them, so that they can do the best they can to create prosperity in our country and increase our overall economic wealth when they graduate...Shouldn't they?
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Students should be charged better not Monetarily but perhaps in Kind. *
There are plenty of students graduate(say for any specialised/general stream)without any visible contribution to the State Resource (i.e Teachers, Administration & Infrastructure )they use. Above all there is phenomenal Brain-Drain. The state Economy requires the return in the investment they make in a Student. However instead of a direct charge Administration can motivate the power & energy of the Youth in a smart way. *
Things like Volunary Participation, Community Development should be mandatory for passing exams. But Administration should act innovatively. Extra-curricular activities better not to be restricted only in events like Annual Sprots & Debate Competition. Education can be more inclusive where Teacher-Student relationship will be more participatory. Uses of modern alternative teaching methods help here. *
It not only utilizes the huge Human Resource that Asia is bubbling with but incorporates a strong sense of belonging to the community/college rather one's country. *
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Debashree Mukherjee
LEC Bengali.
I agree with দেবশ্রীDebashree, these students, these graduates should have no charges to their tertiary education and instead donate say 50 hours a year of community service in their specialty. This would mean that projects such as SPLICE (Supporting Personalised Learning In Community Environments) can be operating all year round, with an over seeing ‘guide on the side’ alongside them community members and graduates of tertiary education can donate their time and skills to work towards an alternative teaching method. However I don’t think it should be an alternative method, if this does happen why not make it a normal teaching method? The community has so much to offer us, so much wealth and knowledge to share. Why not begin the process now? I know SPLICE is. I challenge you to do the same. I challenge you to make a difference, to your school, to your community, to future generations. Will you take up the challenge?
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 4, 2009 - 01:10 AM
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I agree that higher education should be free besides maybe the processing fee,library fees,etc that would help keep the uni running. Just like marcus, the government here offers subsidized rates but I think it should be free seeing that these students are the country's future. And they wonder why our students run off to another country once the graduate.
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 4, 2009 - 01:53 AM
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We have similar situation here in the Philippines Shobana. Though there are lots of government-run universities or state colleges, they still charged students with miscellaneous fees, and some, partial tuition fees..
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 4, 2009 - 01:58 AM
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Exactly franmarie. I understand that certain fees are necessary to keep the uni going, but its minimal. Tuition fees should be waived.
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 4, 2009 - 04:39 AM
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Whilst free university is a good idea, is it practical? The costs of running universities are huge and are much greater than high schools making it a much greater logistical task.
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 4, 2009 - 07:41 AM
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mews wrote:
Students should be charged better not Monetarily but perhaps in Kind. *
There are plenty of students graduate(say for any specialised/general stream)without any visible contribution to the State Resource (i.e Teachers, Administration & Infrastructure )they use. Above all there is phenomenal Brain-Drain. The state Economy requires the return in the investment they make in a Student. However instead of a direct charge Administration can motivate the power & energy of the Youth in a smart way. *
Things like Volunary Participation, Community Development should be mandatory for passing exams. But Administration should act innovatively. Extra-curricular activities better not to be restricted only in events like Annual Sprots & Debate Competition. Education can be more inclusive where Teacher-Student relationship will be more participatory. Uses of modern alternative teaching methods help here. *
It not only utilizes the huge Human Resource that Asia is bubbling with but incorporates a strong sense of belonging to the community/college rather one's country. *
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Thanks a lot Debashree for posting here! I agree with you.
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 4, 2009 - 12:46 PM
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To answer your question, I think it should always be a "YES" - tuition fee should always be charged for higher education. On the other hand, government budget should be spent on offering more scholarships rather than subsidizing universities to cover tuition fees.
Everyone is not equal. Only most talented students deserves privilege.
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 4, 2009 - 11:57 PM
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mastertek wrote:
Everyone is not equal. Only most talented students deserves privilege.
Correct me If I'm wrong. But let's say an average student from a poor family wishes to go to college. They don't deserved subsidized rates or scholarships or financial aid because their not talented? I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. I think education is a valuable asset and should be made available to everyone regardless if their talented or not. Talent is something that one acquires- the piano for example. A person can only play it well and be deemed talented through constant practice. Students from the rural areas do not have opportunities to harness any skills or interest they may have. This can only be done if we provide them an opportunity, a platform for them to develop any talents. If from the beginning we tell students they don't deserve an education, what sort of example are we setting?
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 5, 2009 - 01:04 AM
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shobana wrote:
mastertek wrote:
Everyone is not equal. Only most talented students deserves privilege.
Correct me If I'm wrong. But let's say an average student from a poor family wishes to go to college. They don't deserved subsidized rates or scholarships or financial aid because their not talented? I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. I think education is a valuable asset and should be made available to everyone regardless if their talented or not. Talent is something that one acquires- the piano for example. A person can only play it well and be deemed talented through constant practice. Students from the rural areas do not have opportunities to harness any skills or interest they may have. This can only be done if we provide them an opportunity, a platform for them to develop any talents. If from the beginning we tell students they don't deserve an education, what sort of example are we setting?
That's why usually all universities have Need Based Scholarship and Merit Based Scholarship. Actually both are required.
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 5, 2009 - 03:39 AM
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shobana wrote:
mastertek wrote:
Everyone is not equal. Only most talented students deserves privilege.
Correct me If I'm wrong. But let's say an average student from a poor family wishes to go to college. They don't deserved subsidized rates or scholarships or financial aid because their not talented? I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. I think education is a valuable asset and should be made available to everyone regardless if their talented or not. Talent is something that one acquires- the piano for example. A person can only play it well and be deemed talented through constant practice. Students from the rural areas do not have opportunities to harness any skills or interest they may have. This can only be done if we provide them an opportunity, a platform for them to develop any talents. If from the beginning we tell students they don't deserve an education, what sort of example are we setting?
You are so correct here Shobana. Everyone deserves the right of education. If they are willing to put in work and try, even if they are an average student well then I commend them. Not everyone is so willing and eager to learn, we should support those that are. And when you talk about talents, you are exactly right. If students have always been restricted to ceratin subjects math, english, economics etc and you havent yet been given the chance to perhaps try chemistry - which you may excell at! Well its just a crime to call these people talentless!
Even students with autism, they may have amazing gifts but just havent had the chance to find out what they are. Take Googles Project Spectrum for example. These students love drawing but just cant get there imaginations down on the paper. However with google sketchup they are able to design fabulous works that look like the work of a professional, its all about the whole trial and error concept until you find something you love and you excell at. How can we say NO to students who are yet to have such a chance?
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 5, 2009 - 04:22 AM
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shobana wrote:
mastertek wrote:
Everyone is not equal. Only most talented students deserves privilege.
Correct me If I'm wrong. But let's say an average student from a poor family wishes to go to college. They don't deserved subsidized rates or scholarships or financial aid because their not talented? I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. I think education is a valuable asset and should be made available to everyone regardless if their talented or not. Talent is something that one acquires- the piano for example. A person can only play it well and be deemed talented through constant practice. Students from the rural areas do not have opportunities to harness any skills or interest they may have. This can only be done if we provide them an opportunity, a platform for them to develop any talents. If from the beginning we tell students they don't deserve an education, what sort of example are we setting?
Yes this is true, all should be equal. However, as anwar mentioned that is why all universities should have financial need scholarships which allow people who aren't as well off but just as talented a chance to have higher education.
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 5, 2009 - 04:57 AM
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Your discussion is surely correct, I meant both 'Need based scholarship' and 'Merit based scholarship.'
I am also a student who was brought up in a poor family. When I was at 9th grade, I couldn't afford expensive courses and books to prepare for the examination to my dream high school which is the best one in the region and doesn't charge tuition fee. If I had fell that exam then I had had to go worse school which even charges tuition. No high school would have offered a scholarship like university does. So I made up my mind to put my family on line, borrow money to expense on courses and books. I finally got into my dream school, and repaid all money.
Talent is hidden in most cases, I think. So I think Need based scholarship is very important, but you have to prove your worthiness before enrollment and right after graduation.
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Re: [Poll] Should students in higher education be charged tuition fees?
May 5, 2009 - 06:29 AM
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I agree, thats the use for merit and need based scholarships. But again, we have to remember that need based scholarships are only given to certain people. Not everyone who needs it gets it. But thats beside the point. The point is education should be made free, if not minimum fees because everyone has a right to be educated no matter who they are,or where they come from, or how much their parents make. I understand that money is needed to maintain the uni and all, thats why I suggested the other minimal fees.imposing heavy fees on students is like taking a book away from a child. We are taking something beneficial from them.
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