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Who is using viruses as weapons
April 28, 2009 - 09:20 PM
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Assertions have been made that the so-called swine flu outbreak in Mexico may be a manufactured crisis. Last week, the Associated Press News Agency reported Army criminal investigators are looking into the possibility that disease samples are missing from biolabs at Fort Detrick. History provides many examples of the U.S. government using biological and chemical agents for political purposes. Consider the CIA’s secret war against Cuba and Fidel Castro. The CIA used chemical agents and toxins then stockpiled at Fort Detrick against Cuba. In 1975, the Church Committee revealed a CIA memorandum listing deadly chemical agents and toxins then stockpiled at Fort Detrick. “These included anthrax, encephalitis, tuberculosis, lethal snake venom, shellfish toxin, and half a dozen lethal food poisons, some of which, the committee learned, had been shipped in the early 1960s to Congo and to Cuba in unsuccessful CIA attempts to assassinate Patrice Lumumba and Fidel Castro,” (read Bioterror: Manufacturing Wars the American Way, Ocean Press, 2003, p. vii). In 1977, a Washington Post report confirmed that during this time the CIA maintained an “anticrop warfare” program. As for swine flu, the San Francisco Chronicle reported on January 10, 1977, that CIA “operatives linked to anti-Castro terrorists introduced African swine fever virus into Cuba in 1971.” The outbreak, the first time the disease hit the Western Hemisphere. The outbreak forced Cuba to slaughter 500,000 pigs. An intelligence source told the newspaper “that early in 1971 he was given the virus in a sealed, unmarked container at Ft. Gulick, an Army base in the Panama Canal Zone. There is much more support for those suspicions than a healthy distrust of U.S. intentions regarding Cuba.” Researchers believe the Mexican swine flu outbreak may also be “artificially induced.” First, the Mexican outbreak occurred outside of the normal flu season (influenza usually obeys a regularly re-occurring time period – in temperate climate zones, the flu season will typically begin in the late fall and peak in mid- to late winter. Second, the genetic makeup of the fast-spreading H1N1 strain of influenza — including genetic elements from bird flu, swine flu and human flu covering three continents — appears to be man-made. “What seems suspicious to me is the hybrid origin of the viral fragments found in H1N1 influenza,” writes Mike Adams. These viral fragments include human influenza, bird flu from North America, and swine flu from Europe and Asia.
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
April 28, 2009 - 09:23 PM
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This is rather astonishing to realize, because for this to have been a natural combination of viral fragments, it means an infected bird from North America would have had to infect pigs in Europe, then be re-infected by those same pigs with an unlikely cross-species mutation that allowed the bird to carry it again, then that bird would have had to fly to Asia and infected pigs there, and those Asian pigs then mutated the virus once again (while preserving the European swine and bird flu elements) to become human transmittable, and then a human would have had to catch that virus from the Asian pigs — in Mexico! — and spread it to others. There is plenty of evidence the U.S. military and the CIA have used biological agents in the past, including “tests” on the American people. “More than 200 experiments were carried out in U.S. rural areas to test the spread of non-lethal germs,” writes Joe Allen. “These tests were also carried out in San Francisco in 1950 and in New York in 1966. While the cover for these tests was to study a ‘defense’ against biochemical warfare, U.S. war planners wanted this knowledge for offensive use against an enemy population,” for instance livestock and people in Cuba, as mentioned above.
At the height of Cold War insanity, the U.S. government gave a free hand for its scientists to experiment on anything that could possibly further its military prowess. The CIA experimented with LSD for “mind control.” At Fort Detrick, scientists studied the possibility of spreading yellow fever and plague with insects. Anti-crop bombs were built for the United States Air Force to be used in the Third World.
It appears this insanity did not stop with the Cold War.
Finally, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has reported that “a top scientist for the United Nations, who has examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, [and] concluded that H1N1 possesses certain transmission ‘vectors’ that suggest that the new flu strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon. The UN expert believes that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 swine flu virus are biological warfare agents.”
Again, at this time, there is no definitive evidence indicating the Mexican virus is a bio-weapon. However, there is plenty of factual evidence pointing to the fact the U.S. government (and other governments) have developed biological weapons and have used them against target populations.
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
April 28, 2009 - 10:39 PM
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I was astonished to hear that more than 60 people were killed in Mexico alone, the dread fact is that it is a multi strained virus, which is more dangerous than expected.
The fact that it may be used as biological weapon....can be the truth or it may have been emerged naturally from the reservoir...the core thing that need to be understood is that what is the source of the infecction...I mean who produced it? May be USA is doing so, but there may be other countries behind the scene.
I would like to add that not only swine flu but also small pox, typhoid fever, anthrax, etc are possible threats for bio-terrorism. If the powerful countries use the virus as the weapon then there is a big question mark in the health and wellness of the people around the world.
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
April 29, 2009 - 05:41 PM
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Actually, I always feel disturbed deeply inside me seeing or hearing people spending their energy and resources to create problems for others instead of developments around the world.
In short, I am strongly convince that these acts are done by wicked and cowards who are just non conformist of civilization. Therefore, they should be hunted and be prosecuted for their actions.
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
May 5, 2009 - 05:01 AM
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Wow. I never looked at this issue this way. Come to think of it, it may not be such a farfetched idea. Will it apply to people who've been mixed race since generations. How could you identify genetic markers in those people.
I thought it was media hype and a conspiracy, some nexus between pharmaceutical companies and anyone who has to gain by this mass paranoia. This is like one of those cases where they introduce crop diseases and then make the drug to eliminate the virus and sell it back to the country where they deliberately introduced the virus in the first place. So as long as drug sales go up, they'll create awareness about the need to be vaccinated and take drugs for every disease there is.
If it is found to be true, what you say, do we have any kind of international laws to implicate the governments responsible.. I don't think so.
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
May 5, 2009 - 05:18 AM
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As per my knowledge, there are no international laws but it can be made as cyber crime laws...cuz these are new issues though viruses has been used in many cold wars...however, this is the interest of everyone and some sort of laws need to be implemented in bio-terrorism...
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
May 5, 2009 - 10:44 AM
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Scientists are still baffled as to the contrast between the lethality of the virus in Mexico compared to the rest of the world. Despite the virus being confirmed in the United States, Canada, the UK, Spain, New Zealand, Germany, Costa Rica, and Austria, with probable cases also occurring in France, South Korea and Slovakia, the virus has killed only Mexicans. How can it be that the only fatalities are Mexican hispanics nearly a week into the outbreak? The U.S. military-industrial complex’s interest in race-specific bio-weapons as a tool of warfare is outlined in their own public documents. “Advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool,” stated the September 2000 Rebuilding America’s Defenses report released by the Project For A New American Century.
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
May 5, 2009 - 09:42 PM
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The U.S military has reconstructed the deadly 1918 Influenza Pandemic Virus that killed 50 million people worldwide: The U.S. Armed Forces institute of Pathology funded the CDC research project that successfully resurrects the deadly influenza virus. (AFIP) identified and isolated the material of the 1918 influenza from the frozen remains of a Native Alaskan woman buried for nearly eighty years in Brevig Mission, Alaska. A report of their work, "Characterization of the Reconstructed 1918 Spanish Influenza Pandemic Virus," was published in the October 7 issue of " Journal of Science. The "Biological Weapons Convention" Article I strictly forbids this type of research for military bio-weapons purposes. The 1918 pandemic was especially lethal to Native Americans and killed as many as 85% of those who came in contact with it. Since Native American indians show greater genetic similarity to populations in east central Asia (China), I wonder if someone is preparing and experimenting for a future biological war with China. The Associated Press reports that China has recently gone to extraordinary lengths to quarantine those suspected of carrying the deadly H1N1 swine flu virus that is currently infecting the rest of the world. 
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
May 20, 2009 - 11:09 PM
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illuminati wrote:
The "Biological Weapons Convention" Article I strictly forbids this type of research for military bio-weapons purposes.*
Alex,
Do know if the law has been implemented till date?
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May 20, 2009 - 11:11 PM
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The situation will be be more hapazard if the H1N1 will be transferred to china....its really torturing....
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Re: Who is using viruses as weapons
May 21, 2009 - 03:22 PM
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Yeah Alex, laws are meant to be broken by the makers and the people are sufferers..I agree with you we just can d our best from our side that is maintaining good hygiene and proper interventions against the viral diseases
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June 20, 2009 - 07:54 PM
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9200 uncatalogued pathogens found at US army lab. The incompetence is terrifying, not to mention the power these people have over biological weapons. Take a look at the following:
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/06/9200-uncatalogued-pathogens-fo.html
As regards the cross species mutation- the authors of the paper written in the journal Nature about swine flu warn that the pattern of evolution is the sort of pattern that previous large flu pandemics followed when they emerged in the past. In a time before genetic engineering of course, so I would not immediately jump to the conclusion that therefore it must be man made.
But it is a disturbing possibility.
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