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franmarie
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
April 29, 2009 - 08:04 AM
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I just want to share something..
Last night I was busy reading all your post, my 6-yr old cousin asked me what I'm doing. I told him I'm having an intellectual exchange of ideas to other people (a somewhat conversation). Then I asked him regarding computers and his schooling, and if he's having a good time learning in school or during our interaction to the computer.
I was amazed with his answer. He said in school its fine, he enjoyed his class. And he said, "but in computer, its boring". He mentioned that he never had a great conversation in the internet, because all he needed is to read and read, and he cannot understand all words or the topic. He said that the computer didnt know how to explain to him the topic that a 6-yr old like him can understand, and he mentioned also that almost everything in the internet is plain English.
I asked the difference of reading an English book and reading through the internet. (Because he loves reading books especially related to Anatomy and "Tell Me Why" books with my guidance). He told me that it is easy to read (use) books because it is easy for him to turn the pages and go back, and he can bring it if he wants to ask something to his mom, and he can just put a bookmark if he is still not finished with it, unlike in computers. He is still having a hard time to navigate pages.
That's the perception of my 6-yr old cousin and I know it is still hard for him to comprehend the language because it is not his 1st language and that he has only a very limited grasp to the English language, same with computers.
This post was edited on: 2009-04-29 at 08:05 AM by: franmarie
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
April 29, 2009 - 08:12 AM
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good sharing,franmarie . Learning via internet is a good way but it is only used when we are fully aware of its impacts. Especially, children who are sensitive changes, we need to guide them how to learn before they are able to guide themselves.
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
April 29, 2009 - 08:12 AM
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franmarie wrote:
I just want to share something..
Last night I was busy reading all your post, my 6-yr old cousin asked me what I'm doing. I told him I'm having an intellectual exchange of ideas to other people (a somewhat conversation). Then I asked him regarding computers and his schooling, and if he's having a good time learning in school or during our interaction to the computer.
I was amazed with his answer. He said in school its fine, he enjoyed his class. And he said, "but in computer, its boring". He mentioned that he never had a great conversation in the internet, because all he needed is to read and read, and he cannot understand all words or the topic. He said that the computer didnt know how to explain to him the topic that a 6-yr old like him can understand, and he mentioned also that almost everything in the internet is plain English.
I asked the difference of reading an English book and reading through the internet. (Because he loves reading books especially related to Anatomy and "Tell Me Why" books with my guidance). He told me that it is easy to read (use) books because it is easy for him to turn the pages and go back, and he can bring it if he wants to ask something to his mom, and he can just put a bookmark if he is still not finished with it, unlike in computers. He is still having a hard time to navigate pages.
That's the perception of my 6-yr old cousin and I know it is still hard for him to comprehend the language because it is not his 1st language and that he has only a very limited grasp to the English language, same with computers.
This post was edited on: 2009-04-29 at 08:05 AM by: franmarie
Wow, thanks for sharing that! 
I think you should also post that in Jesses thread titled: Will technology cause the loss of reading book habits?
As we have been having a discussion about the possibility of e books replacing books there. I just feel it is really interesting that for those learning a 2nd language, technology, and the internet in particular are not the answer. I guess it just seems so much more simpler and maybe in that way comforting? Safe? to learn the language via books rather then the World Wide Web.
This is interesting as everyone has been saying so far (including me) that the internet can play a huge role in learning different things. Maybe not the whole of a subject but parts of it. However maybe this does not apply when learning a new language etc? Can anyone else think of any other situations where the internet/technology can be swapped for simpler tools when learning?
This post was edited on: 2009-04-29 at 08:25 AM by: Newklear
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franmarie
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
April 29, 2009 - 08:17 AM
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Thank you Marcus and thank you duhless..
I have also the same thoughts with others regarding the use of technology, I never thought that a child like my cousin has his deep views when it comes to such things... and, yes, let me also repost it to the other thread... thank you again!
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Olok/ Rheijhie
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
April 29, 2009 - 10:04 PM
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Greetings Everyone!
By the way I'm Regie from the Philippines. I am graduating with a bachelor's degree in Educational Psychology
I voted for the "Ordinary Way" because I see the benefit of being able to interact and share your thoughts with your classmates in real time.
Being able to do group activities together while learning is another advantage brought by the Ordinary Way of learning.
In my previous studies, I have learned out that for Asians in majority, learning in groups in real time facilitates more learning engagement and more learning outcomes. It can be explained by the high interdependence of Asian students give to each other. Though, I apologize because I cannot recall the author of this study I cited.
This is only one of the factors which could explain how students from collectivistic cultures i.e. Asians differ with students from individualistic cultures i.e. US, Europe and Latin America in terms of learning best
I have observed that students studying from in my university who came from western countries excel more when doing individualized work. I always see that when we conduct online classes they really excel more on their outputs compared to us.
In summary, learning via internet or via-the ordinary way depends on the student's learning style or orientation on which he/she learns best.
Today's paradigm in learning is student-centered so schools adjust to the learning needs of their students
Hope that this will be a helpful information.
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
April 29, 2009 - 10:28 PM
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You made some great points but I don't think that we come from collectivism cultures means that we are able to work in group well. Otherwise, students from individualism cultures like western countries have good teamwork skills.
the point here is whether our education environment can enable us to collaborate or not.
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
April 30, 2009 - 10:27 PM
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duhless wrote:
You made some great points but I don't think that we come from collectivism cultures means that we are able to work in group well. Otherwise, students from individualism cultures like western countries have good teamwork skills.
the point here is whether our education environment can enable us to collaborate or not.
Maybe my point is that each country either western or eastern have their own approach to teamwork which brings them to successful learning achievement.
I agree about the environmental factor because its diverse from each country to another which influences how online collaboration towards learning and teaching works.
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Sagar Saxena
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
May 1, 2009 - 05:56 AM
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To Olok, I see that you have really brought out all the pros of the "ordinary way" of teaching, and I really agree with most of them. However, you cannot define the ordinary way, in absolute terms, as the better one. Probably to some it is good, but if you were to look at my previous posts, learning via internet also has a lot of advantages.
Looking forward to more of your such insightful posts.
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Evandri
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
May 1, 2009 - 02:55 PM
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in my oppinion.
I realy support learning via Ordinary way, with ordinary way student can express their mind in to maximum way of crativity,and lead to inovation and problem solving at social activity
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Katherine Walraven
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
May 1, 2009 - 07:10 PM
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I l-o-v-e reading all of your posts, guys. Thanks so much for your insight and dedication.
It seems that this isn't a cut and dry issue, is it? There are definitely benefits and drawbacks to online education and face-to-face learning. The consensus here seems to be that the best option is a hybrid of both.
One of the benefits to online learning that wasn't mentioned is that learners often have the time to really think about what they want to say, whereas in a time-bound class one has to answer on the fly. Some people also feel more comfortable sharing in an online environment than they do in a social environment.
I'm a bit older than all of you and haven't had many experiences with online learning, personally. I have one, though. A few years ago, I signed up to do a "Teach English as a Second Language" course online. May the fact that I have yet to complete the course (there were no deadlines) attest to the fact that I certainly work better in, and am more motivated by, conventional learning environments!
One of the great benefits of online learning environments is the ability to connect to other teachers and learners around the world. TIG offers online classroom spaces that many teachers use to connect their students with classrooms in other countries. Check out some of the cool projects that have resulted!
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
May 1, 2009 - 07:57 PM
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Ahahaha wrote:
When we use the internet, we have more time to think about how we're going to respond. This can be good in someways, but on the other hand, it means we hesitate to ask some questions or say something that might have been beneficial to the class. How many times in your class have someone asked a question that ended up being (a some what off topic) discussion and you learnt something new? That's happened in nearly all of my classes before.
I think that being able to think about what you're going to say can be great. I've had experiences where I was put on the spot by a teacher... then later that day thought of the best answer that I could have come up with. I was slightly gutted that I couldn't share my in-depth thought on the subject.
But then, by constantly being put on the spot by teacher, we learn to think fast. Not every discussion outside schools or every problem/question that arises is going to be online where you have time to think about what you're wanting to say, so I think that it's best that we develop a habit of thinking on the spot.
Also, if you can't quite finish off our sentence, then you're probably not going to share it online, but when you're in a time-bound classroom, and you start off a sentence, others may understand where you're coming from and help come to a conclusion with you. I don't think that is something that online discussions are able to do, or at least as effectively as in a classroom.
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Elizabeth Wilson
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Re: [Poll] Learning via the internet or in the ordinary way, which is better in your opinion?
May 12, 2009 - 11:08 AM
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What I like about online learning is that it's student-centered. It accommodates people who have different learning styles. You can create your own learning experience online, but I think it also is suited for people with self-discipline as you're setting your own deadlines and allotting your own time to assignments.
I think a major complaint about online learning is the limited access to people - your instructor, your peers. Questions and opinions are exchanged based on the unpredicted online availability of others. But the good thing about online learning is providing thought-out opinions. It gives you time to reflect and think before you speak on heavy topics. But then again, giving your input on the spot, even if you later disagree with it, can generate debate or discussion and immediate feedback from peers, so in class offers collective thinking.
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