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Amina-Yasmine

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Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Mar 10, 2009

Bullfighting, fox-hunting and whale-hunting are part of some countries' traditions. Do you think that countries (or individuals) should have a right to continue these traditions?

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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Mar 10, 2009

Any cultural traditions that is against conservation of fauna and flora ought to be discouraged.
How ever it is a pity that the world pays little attention to animal cruelty because its effect is not very vissible on our environment like that of deforestation and global warming.
Not only in Europe where fox hunting and bull fighting are practised, other parts of the world like Africa where cruelty to animals are common through certain cultural practises and ritual sacrifice ought to be condemned.
I am also of the opinion that bestiality is also a form of cruelty to animals, as such societies need to promulgate laws to punish all forms of cruelty to animals.

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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Apr 21, 2009

All of these activities are cruel and the people have no right to carry on with the traditions.If whale hunting is carried on, then it won't be long before some species of whales become extinct. TH=he population of humans has increased so rapidly that maintaining these traditions may lead to extinction of the animals. On the other hand it might also lead to over-breeding due to human intervention which will in turn lead to ecological disbalance as food supplies run out, etc, etc. These traditions come from a time when we had a completely different mind-set. Times have changed along with point of views and so should traditions.


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Apr 28, 2009

Cultural Traditions are a very difficult thing to attack when it comes to the beliefs of opposing cultures. Culture is something that is taught and engrained into people from the time that they are born, a state of mind if you will that is passed down from generation to generation - it is not an easy thing to weed out!
While some traditions made sense "way back in the day" - before technology and higher education, I think that it has become incresingly clear in this day and age that a lot of traditions are barbaric and mindless.
Any amount of taunting/cruelty that is directed towards a living, breathing, feeling being/animal in the name of "tradition" is and should be considered an illegal act.
If people can hide behind tradition in order to devalue a life (human or otherwise) then doesn't that undermine our value as a species? What makes our existance any more valuable?


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
May 12, 2009


RebeccaBernard wrote:

Cultural Traditions are a very difficult thing to attack when it comes to the beliefs of opposing cultures. Culture is something that is taught and engrained into people from the time that they are born, a state of mind if you will that is passed down from generation to generation - it is not an easy thing to weed out!
While some traditions made sense "way back in the day" - before technology and higher education, I think that it has become incresingly clear in this day and age that a lot of traditions are barbaric and mindless.
Any amount of taunting/cruelty that is directed towards a living, breathing, feeling being/animal in the name of "tradition" is and should be considered an illegal act.
If people can hide behind tradition in order to devalue a life (human or otherwise) then doesn't that undermine our value as a species? What makes our existance any more valuable?



Devaluing a life

People are animals to

Animals kill each other

Or in this sense "people kill animals"

Its not cruel its just the food chain

And by that i mean

Animals follow that rule and apparently we do to
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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
May 28, 2009

There is a differnece between killing an animal so that you can eat and torturing, teasing and then brutally murdering an inocent animal that can't defend itself for the sake of tradition and entertainment.
I urge you to open your young mind to the fact that the world is not so black and white or cut and dry.
To hide behind the food chain as an means of justifying cruel treatment of another species is exactly the type of mentality that will continue this type of behaviour.
If we were to look at all situations in life this way then we could also justify the kidnapping and torture of childern. They are, as you put it, lower on the food chain!


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Jun 3, 2009

I hope this generation will not terminate all animal spieces.
In Africa the rate of illiteracy is high, We don't know the value of animals in our planet.
We need to be informed about animal life as it affects our surroundings.


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Oct 20, 2009

I do not condone those cultural traditions, and I believe efforts should be made to try and stop them. With so many animals threatening extinction and so many others suffering because of these traditions, it's time to put them behind.

But the problem is just that. Many decades of these practices definitely aren't going to be simply put behind over night. sad


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Jan 12, 2010

It is absurd to me that people would want to continue traditions that cause living, breathing, feeling creatures pain. Traditional acts against women and children that caused suffering have stopped, for the most part, in the modern world. Why should traditions involving animal abuse be any different? And it is animal abuse, plain and simple. Is it because some deem them not our equal? This is absurd as well. Any creature that can think, feel pain, and has emotion is our equal. Not all traditions are good and as society evolves and changes,these traditions need to be eliminated or change as well.


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Jan 20, 2010

It is important to remember that traditions that involve elements of human cruelty do not necessarily stem from a desire to inflict cruelty upon animals, but rather, simply from tradition. Having said that, what we need to establish is a sort of balancing test, where we balance the need for a people to maintain their tradition against the rights of animals.

In American constitutional law, Justice William Douglas argued in 1972 in Sierra Club v. Morton that all manner of inanimate objects as well as animals have standing to sue in court and to be party to lawsuits on the basis of ecological wrongs. Given this, it is entirely reasonable that animal rights are compelling and that the rights of animals should be strongly considered; most of the world except for a few countries have outlawed whale hunting. However, the question of bullfighting is particularly intriguing. It is at the very heart of Spanish culture and to outlaw it would be tantamount to outlawing football in America. Should we outlaw the latter because it invariably inflicts severe pain and injury upon those participating in it?

This is an incredibly complicated question and we msut also be cognizant of the fact that animal rights, just as much as human rights, are not a universal, but rather are a social construct, and that while many people would like to see things like bullfighting criminalized, to do so would be to ignore pleas of autonomy and cries of impending monoculture. We cannot impose a new world order upon the unwilling without severely insulting existing cultures, and animal rights in the face of traditions are no different.


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Jan 21, 2010

It is not a complicated question at all. If it were not a bull that was being tortured but a human, people would not use culture as a defense. They would know that purposefully inflicting pain is morally wrong and any tradition that includes this act must be morally wrong as well. Because it is an animal, however, those who are selfish and do not want change hide behind the excuse of "culture" and "tradition". While I agree we should respect other cultures, I do not agree with maintaining cruelty in the name of tradition. Yes it would be hard on Americans if football were to be outlawed for some reason, but society would not crumble and citizens would survive, as would be the case if the bullfight were outlawed. Even more than that, not only would citizens survive but bulls would as well.


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
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It is not a complicated question at all. If it were not a bull that was being tortured but a human, people would not use culture as a defense. They would know that purposefully inflicting pain is morally wrong and any tradition that includes this act must be morally wrong as well. Because it is an animal, however, those who are selfish and do not want change hide behind the excuse of "culture" and "tradition". While I agree we should respect other cultures, I do not agree with maintaining cruelty in the name of tradition. Yes it would be hard on Americans if football were to be outlawed for some reason, but society would not crumble and citizens would survive, as would be the case if the bullfight were outlawed. Even more than that, not only would citizens survive but bulls would as well.


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Feb 3, 2010

Cultural traditions should not be made on the expense of innocent animals. It is plain cruelty to do so.

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Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
Feb 20, 2010

I know they're traditions, but they need to stop!!! If this keeps up we wont have any of these animals left, and maybe in the future, there wont be any animals at all because of these traditions and how people are treating animals as if they have no feelings.

Animals should have the same rights as humans!!!


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Re: Cultural Traditions vs. Animal Cruelty
May 2, 2010

Here is a project with some horrifying examples of traditions that some countries still practice.

http://jakemartin.glogster.com/animal-abuse/

Please comment with your feedback.


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