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Can a Global Government create Peace?
February 2, 2009 - 04:07 PM
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Do you believe that global government can create equality for all, a more peaceful community and represent all individual's rights?
I am interested in your views (most especially the supporting reasons) and arguments for and against global government.
Thanks
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
February 3, 2009 - 01:47 AM
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It will seem that a global government might just be able to help the world pull through. But it can't be true. The acient global governments of the Chaldean, babylonian and roman empires only brought terror, dictatorship and untoward hardship to the helpless majority.
A global government? Not my call. Moreso that as a student of the Bible, I believe the end of the world will be signalled by a world ruler, who will be a cruel despot.
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
February 3, 2009 - 07:40 PM
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For me is very difficult to immagine a global government with a very good way of fonctioning. I mean, who will be the manager of this governemnt? Look at the European Union how many lack of law, agreements, and finance it has.
International Organisations, NGOs and other like these one can really have an impact on peace. Total peace ..will never be. It's just a dream, and the reality means gas, money, gold, power, influence...
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
February 12, 2009 - 10:26 AM
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no a global goverment cant help spread peace but as i would say that a partial goverment could really help us out a lot and if we can help half of the world then we can keep on going and help the rest of the world
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
February 16, 2009 - 10:42 PM
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Well, the United States created peace on one continent. The European Union created peace on another continent that had seen nothing but war for centuries. The problem is that as humans we seem to have a need for some "other" against which we can unite. It's a tough question.
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
February 21, 2009 - 12:54 PM
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I think that the way that we define global government will play a big role in how effective a globlal government will be. If we look at the models that are out there we see an organization like the United Nations. An organization like this demonstrates how heavily bureaucratic and in some ways inefficient that a global government can be.
The fact remains, though, that a global govenrnment is one way that the issues and concerns of all members of the planet can potentially be addressed.
I think that a question that might be explored is, "what would an effective global government look like?"
Thoughts?
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
March 16, 2009 - 06:12 PM
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Hi,
there are lots of different proposals for how global governance could look like.
I am part of a project where we are building a website with the aim to unite the global democracy movement:
GlobalDemo.org
GlobalDemo.org still has a long way to go until it´s official launch, but you can already find plenty of literature on the topic of global governance: http://globaldemo.org/resources
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Some other websites/initiatives that have prrofed to be very good:
http://voteworldgovernment.org/
http://www.unpacampaign.org
http://www.wfm-igp.org/site/
http://www.worldcitizens.org
http://www.buildingglobaldemocracy.org/
http://www.theglobalvote.org/
http://www.tgde.org/
http://www.wfuna.org/
http://www.transnationalrepublic.org/
(to name just a view)
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
March 27, 2009 - 04:29 PM
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i don't think that a global government could work.
don't talking about creating peace all over the world, because that's a big and very hard "homework".
the world is too big, there are to many people, to many countries to unite them ALL UNDER ONE PERSON
i even think that it is better, if there is no global goverment, because so the states can "controll" each other,
i don't think that it would be good if there is one person deciding what to do..
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
March 30, 2009 - 04:03 PM
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1stly:
Nobody says all people will be under the rule of one person. A government always is made up of many people. Also look for example at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers
This is just one of many possible mechanisms to control a government. There could also be something like a subsidiarity veto, etc.
2ndly:
Nations could still control themselfs if there is a world government. The system would most propably be federal in some way...
3rdly
There are many different possibilities and I cannot write them all down here, but if you look at the links I posted then you can find lot´s of literature.
4th
You are right! Not all problems are global problems and many have to be addressed on a regional level. If we do want peace we need to address each proplem where we can encounter it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralisation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity
etc.
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
April 4, 2009 - 05:22 AM
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We already have a government over most of the globe. It is called the United States. And what does the US run world do? It bombs, it supports dictatorships and occupations, it steals, it buries you in loans, and it makes you buy things you don't need (Gulf Arabs) and kills you when you don't comply (Palestinians).
Peace will never happen when wealthy weapons producers control the mechanisms of government, as they do in the industrialized countries.
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
April 4, 2009 - 06:38 AM
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In my opinion we could build a global transparent democratic political system where the weapon industry would not be able to influence politics.
It might even be possible to abolish all weapons (not cooking knifes etc) if we all live together in one state.
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
April 4, 2009 - 04:13 PM
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Friedrich,
There are basic problems with forming one state that makes it highly unlikely. Language differences are big. There are vested commercial interests that would oppose it. Who, also, would hold the power? Would the Chinese and the Americans accept a role equal to the Germans, Iranians, or a less powerful people?
Also, as sad as it may seem, people tend to relish the particular, the local, their own space. They feel violated when this is encroached upon or threatened with abolition.
We see this in the various ethnic conflicts that have emerged since the breakup of formal colonialism. Though these conflicts have origins besides ethno-religious identity, these local identities are still a variable in conflicts. Witness the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a conflict basically over land, but one that is fueled by Jewish nationalist expansion, Palestinian desire for security and particular space, and, more recently, Islamic political-religious group feeling.
I havent even discussed the other ethnic fault lines that would make such union difficult.
There is, though, the possibility of regional confederations, like the European Union, African Union, and so forth, that could at least work to reduce the use of destructive weapons in warfare and bring a modicum of security to the oppressed people of the world. Of course, these measures are widely debated in the UN but vetoed by the great powers.
This post was edited on: 2009-04-04 at 04:14 PM by: caised
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
April 4, 2009 - 07:34 PM
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Hi Caise,
you are right with a lot of things that you wrote, but in my opinion all these obstacles can be overcome.
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It is clear that if we founded one state it had to be ruled by the principle one person one vote. Also it is clear that the state must be organized following the principle of subsidiarity (I even postulate a subsidiarity veto, where in the political hierachy the decentralized level can avert decisions taken by the more centralized political institutions. In order to still be able to make decisions on global level it is necessary that decisions can only be averted by this veto if a majority of the worlds population would support a veto.)
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Anyway I am happy that there are regional confederations like EU, AU, ASEAN etc. and I believe they already are a big improvement.
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Yours
Fred
ps: maybe you want to take a look at the teaser of a film on this topic: http://worldvotenow.com/
I personally don´t yet know anything about that film, but I am looking forward to be seeing it!!!
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
April 16, 2009 - 11:56 PM
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mmm well personally I think for one Global Government to control everyone on earth is nearly impossible, and I
say 'nearly' because who knows what will happen in the future, but right now the way we treat each other and how we are divided by so many minor/ big conflicts...it just won't work for now.
Although I do agree with Caise and the whole concept of Regional confederations. They will have to be redone with less control in the hands of the people and i know that sounds weird  but democracy today does not work very effectively... with so many people having a say, vetoing each other weather out of spit or dislike or even common sense this process needs some tweaking....
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Re: Can a Global Government create Peace?
April 21, 2009 - 06:39 PM
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I am impressed with the responses in this thread - it gives me much to think about. I think that the idea of a certain degree of regional control needs to be maintained in the sense that areas with similar issues need the opportunities to work together.
To those that feel that the world is currently too fractured to enable any degree of cohesive action - you are certaily the realists in the crowd - but to play devil's advocate for a second, if we honestly belive that an individual can make a difference in the world, and that change needs to occur then we need to focus on what can be changed not what cannot.
In life if we view things as roadblocks then we are stopped; if we view things, no matter how significant or seemingly impossible as obstacles to overcome then our chances of achieveing the goal of a global government will come closer to being.
To quote W.C. Longenecker
You Can If You Think You Can!
If you think you are beaten, you are,
If you think you dare not, you don't.
If you like to win, but you think you can't,
It is almost certain you won't.
If you think you'll lose, you're lost,
For out in the world we find,
Success begins with a fellow's will.
It's all in the state of mind.
If you think you are outclassed, you are,
You've got to think high to rise,
You've got to be sure of yourself before
You can ever win a prize.
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man.
But soon or late the man who wins,
Is the man who thinks he can.
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