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Women's rights in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS/Mormon religion)
January 8, 2009 - 08:03 PM
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"The government of the wife is therefore placed in the husband by the law of God; for he is the head. I suffer not a woman saith the Lord to teach, or to usurp authority over a man, but to be in subjection...Here, the wife is pronounced the husband's property, as much so as his manservant, his maidservant, his ox, or his horse...polygamy regulated by the law of God as illustrated in this book could not possibly produce one crime; neither could it injure any human being...Speak not a word against it at your peril"(qtd in Krakauer 91).
These words are skeptically written by Joseph Smith, in the book The Peacemaker. In the fundamentalist church, they believe every single one of these words was inspired by God, and delivered in a revelation to Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon religion. When the Mormon church was forced to give up their practice of polygamy by the U.S. government, many people separated from the church and continued to do this "sacred practice". Although the church today renounces and even bashes the practice of polygamy, there are still hundreds of thousands of Fundamentalist Mormons who still practice it. Not only has it caused the Mormon church to have a bad reputation, but it has resulted in thousands of sexual, and emotional abuse to women. In the book, Under the Banner of Heaven, John Krakauer tells the stories of many women who were treated horribly. Female children are harrassed by other boys their age, older men, and even their fathers. Girls are married off at a young age, and arent given the right to choose their spouse. Husbands then tend to beat their wives, and rape them as well. Too often have there been cases of men over the age of forty, marrying girls of up to thirteen years of age.
Not all Mormons are fundamentalists though, and practice these guidelines. Yet the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints, is abusive to the female gender. Not only do they believe that they have the right to own a woman, but they believe they have power over women's overall rights, including sexual performance, right to opinion, and right who they would like to marry. Therefore women have absolutely no rights within the Fundamentalist Mormon culture.
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Re: Women's rights in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS/Mormon religion)
January 8, 2009 - 09:18 PM
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I don't think any "revelations" that a founder of a religion has should lead to discrimination against a certain group. Everyone is born with basic rights, and successfully stripping women of these will only lead to more injustice. Religion is so difficult to argue against because you cannot prove OR disprove something that has been so to say, "stated" by God. Therefore, the fundamentalist Mormons gain power through unsupported arguments and facts rather than logical ideas and theories. Allowing women to be treated in such a manner only makes the religion weaker. Even though the fundamentalists may not see it, women could contribute so much to their religion if given the chance. The intelligence of a woman is not less than that of a man. Thus, equality in the Mormon religion would not hurt. In my view, these fundamentalists are only practicing their religion to gain power rather than to benefit themselves and their community in a healthy way. However in reality, they have no control whatsoever. Instead of following their own moral thoughts, they are letting Joseph Smith control their way of life. Therefore, controlling women will not benefit them because the actual idea of controlling woman came from an authority figure, causing them to be mentally weak followers.
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Re: Women's rights in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS/Mormon religion)
January 8, 2009 - 09:25 PM
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http://personals.aol.com/articles/2008/12/22/13-ways-to-keep-your-husband-happy/
I just went on AOL and found this link. To tell you the truth, I don't think our society is much better when it comes to fair treatment of women. AOL is a site for both men AND women, meaning men can also view this article. The issue here should not be how to make a man happy, but how to establish equality.
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Re: Women's rights in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS/Mormon religion)
January 8, 2009 - 11:03 PM
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When I first wrote this discussion, It was really long and had three quotes in it. But it wouldnt let me post all of it, so i posted all of it in on of my blogs, so if you would like to read that, its even more interesting. It says a bunch more. Its not super long its a little bit more, but better.
Also Joseph Smith was a very charismatic man. He was also a huge "player" and the women loved him. Because he couldnt keep his hands off of more than one women, and didnt want to be committing adultery/cheating on his wife, he so called "recieved a revelation from God" about the sacred scripture of Polygamy.
I think that he wanted to justify his ways, therefore faked that it was God-Inspired. This has also happened recently in the past ten years with two men named Ron and Dan lafferty. Ron's wife left him after he became fundamentalist, and he decided to blame it on his other brother's wife. He then somehow "recieved a sacred revelation from God", that him and his other brother Dan (not the husband of the woman he wanted to kill) should kill the woman (her name was brenda), and her baby daughter. Of course they carried out the plans, and ended up killing them.
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Re: Women's rights in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS/Mormon religion)
January 8, 2009 - 11:07 PM
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What's sad, though, is that if you were to truly look into any major religion, you would find incredible similarities. Many, if not all, have fundamentalist sects with their own set of practices.
I can't help but wince any time the individuals' brains are taken out of the equation, and instead, they blindly follow as they're instructed. Although I have my "struggles" when it comes to faith, I am challenged when I try to find similarities in their beliefs and mine. Regardless of times of questioning, anger and at times, disbelief, I still cannot swallow the image of God ever asking anything similar to this from those who are trying to live a life of faith.
Fundamentalist Catholics, also known as members of Opus Dei, still practice incredibly archaic, abusive and destructive methods of "worship". During my volunteer term after college, I worked with a girl who group up in this community. I constantly found myself astonished by the justifications and reasoning she gave when we discussed their practices. See the site below for a bit of info:
http://www.odan.org/questionable_practices.htm
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Re: Women's rights in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS/Mormon religion)
January 8, 2009 - 11:56 PM
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Well put, Alex.
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