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AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
November 15, 2008 - 10:15 AM
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Contrary to belifes in various circles that the Acquired Immunity Deficiency Syndrome.AIDS Originated in Africa in the 1960s, or the united ststes of America in the 1980s. Scienists are now claiming that the disease dates back to between 1884 and 1924, with a more focused estimate at 1908. According to the result of a research reported in the current adition of journal Nature.
Early victims were probably isolated in remote viallges before the arrival of colonical cities in sub saharan Africa at the turn of the century sparked a spread of the disease. DNA shows AIDS had a firm footing in Africa cities in the 1960s. But it wasn't formally recongnised until 1981 when it got the attention of public health officilas in the United states. The new result is not a monumental shift but it means
The virus was circulating under our radar even longer than we knew said lead investigator Michael Worobey, of University of Arizona. Scienitists say HIV descended from a chimpanzee virus that jumped to humans in Africa, probably when people butchered chimps, many individuals were probably infected foot hold, research get a lasting hold . But the growth of Africa cities may have changed that by putting lots of people close together and promoting prostitution, Worobey suggested. Cities are kind of ideal for a virus like HIV, proving more chances for infected with AIDS virus in the rural area know as Kinshasa, Congo and now you have got the spark arriving in the tinder box worobwy said.
This post was edited on: 2008-11-22 at 07:29 AM by: kengee
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
November 16, 2008 - 05:09 PM
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i cant say. No idea!
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
November 17, 2008 - 09:42 AM
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Can you prove this?
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
November 19, 2008 - 01:53 PM
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Yikes! AIDS has been around that long?!?   
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
November 21, 2008 - 10:31 AM
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Of course they're going to say AIDS has been around that long. You know why? Because of this:
AIDS means Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome. Translated into simple English, it means "low white blood count" or "poor immune system". Basically, when your defense system is down, opportunistic illnesses take over.
It is interesting to note that AIDS does not have a DEFINITE definition. It is basically a bunch of illnesses and diseases we ALREADY KNOW.
Such as, Kaposi's Sarcoma, Leukemia, Pneumonia, diarrhea, etc.
These are all illnesses that can affect us when our defense system is poor or shuts down.
HIV, on the other hand, that is another story.
It is also interesting to see how HIV+ people with AIDS are treated versus HIV- people with diseases that can are in the ever-expanding AIDS definition, i.e: Leukemia. The medical treatment has some difference to it.
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
November 30, 2008 - 12:53 AM
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Pandemics have existed in this world long before Homo Sapiens evolved. They are natures way of making sure the world does not become overcrowded.
The earth has limited resources - as we are seeing with shortages in many commodities (particularly oil and food). We have so many people on the earth that we have globally polluted the ocean, the atmosphere and the water supply.
One must be an eternal optimist to believe that the world politic is going to fix any of these global problem. The more likely result is mass starvation - which will kill off billions of people.
Why should we waste our resources trying to cure people who contracted AIDS? Let nature take its course. It is only humane to allow a pandemic to kill off people who have contracted aids through their own promiscuous behavior.
It is far less humane to allow an innocent child to die of starvation a decade from now.
The movement to cure AIDS is an example of good intentions that cause negative results.
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 1, 2008 - 11:34 AM
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Hmmm... Good point, hobo.
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 13, 2008 - 01:25 PM
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Really?
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 14, 2008 - 03:21 PM
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@hobo
"Why should we waste our resources trying to cure people who contracted AIDS? Let nature take its course. It is only humane to allow a pandemic to kill off people who have contracted aids through their own promiscuous behavior."
It is estimated there are over 11.6 million orphaned children in Africa. Look them in the eyes and tell them their parents deserved to die. It was only "humane" to let them die.
In 2007, around 370,000 children under 15 became infected with HIV, mainly through mother-to-child transmission.
Let me repeat that: 370,000 babies in one year contracted HIV off their mothers. Please explain to me how you believe these babies are guilty, do they deserve to die because of their parents "sins"?!
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 14, 2008 - 03:44 PM
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I totally disagree with you friend.Look at your left hand and tell me what you see!
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Cal
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 14, 2008 - 03:58 PM
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I'm sorry I really don't know what you mean.
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 14, 2008 - 05:03 PM
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You quoted: "Why should we waste our resources trying to cure people who contracted AIDS?
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 15, 2008 - 04:39 AM
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I have heard of cases where the victims contacted AIDS through barbers' shops, all because they don't have money to buy personal barbing device. However, I think is very inhumane for anyone to say:
" Let nature take its course." ;
"Look them in the eyes and tell them their parents deserved to die. "
Please just answer my questions below:
*Have you heard about CLIMATE CHANGE?
*What is your disposition about it?
*Do you realize that it is all our works?
*Now should nature take its course?
*I mean, should we all die because it is the same vein with HIV/AIDS?
However, everyone will surely die one day. So telling AIDS victims or prospective victims that they will die will only stiff they heart and as such, make them ready to spread it to innocent people, especially the children.
To me me, only CARE and LOVE can heal the world WOES- be it CLIMATE CHANGE , HIV / AIDS or other things we are all yearning about.
Just try to be very CARING and LOVING and you will see everything will fall in pleasant places.
PLEASE SHOW LOVE AND CARE FOR EVERYONE.
Peace!
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 15, 2008 - 04:51 AM
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It is estimated there are over 11.6 million orphaned children in Africa. Look them in the eyes and tell them their parents deserved to die. It was only "humane" to let them die.
In 2007, around 370,000 children under 15 became infected with HIV, mainly through mother-to-child transmission.
Let me repeat that: 370,000 babies in one year contracted HIV off their mothers. Please explain to me how you believe these babies are guilty, do they deserve to die because of their parents "sins"?!
Africa also suffers from severe poverty and mass starvation. The population is largely illiterate - so it is impossible for Africa to engage world commerce or in any way pull themselves up from the unfortunate population trap which they find themselves caught.
A lot of people are going to die in Africa soon - there is no way to stop that. If they don't die of AIDS, they will die of starvation or some other disease.
Or perhaps I am missing a solution that will somehow save the people of Africa. I am open to alternative suggestions that provide a COMPREHENSIVE solution . But stopping AIDS to allow them to die of starvation is not an answer.
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Re: AIDS MORE THAN 100 YEARS OLD
December 15, 2008 - 08:36 AM
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"If they don't die of AIDS, they will die of starvation or some other disease."
I think the problem here is that, take for example the children who die from diseases that would have been prevented by vaccinations. The answer, unfortunately is not quite as simple as vaccinating them. Because of AIDS. The vaccine is useless if they have no immune system. AIDS contributes greatly to the amount of people dying of simply prevented diseases. When I found out the number of people dying of treatable TB I was startled, but I now realise AIDS was what caused them to catch TB in the first place. Illnesses are linked to AIDS which makes things much more complicated on the topic of what diseases to treat.
I certainly agree with you on "But stopping AIDS to allow them to die of starvation is not an answer." Absolutely! I do understand your point, you have explained yourself better in your second post.
I never claimed to have a solution to Africa's problems, I never claimed fighting AIDS should be the only priority. But had to post in response to your views of allowing all those infected with HIV to just die off. I do know that is certainly not the answer to Africa's problems.
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