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go vegan for great health
November 2, 2008 - 02:34 PM
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The perfect PERFECT diet for human beings is the vegan one (no animal products; just whole cereals, fruit, veggies and legumes, seeds and nuts of all kinds...). Please, all of you who care for your health, read the "China Study" and then, only then, argue against being vegan? It s time to go back to nature, both for the sake of our health and for the environment...
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Re: go vegan for great health
November 3, 2008 - 05:36 AM
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I don't know if vegans don't eat milk products because I think this is the most important source for calcium which is essential for life. I won't argue with you that you can't live without animal products, because you can!! But I don't agree that it's the only way of eating!
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Re: go vegan for great health
November 22, 2008 - 04:44 AM
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ancag wrote:
The perfect PERFECT diet for human beings is the vegan one (no animal products; just whole cereals, fruit, veggies and legumes, seeds and nuts of all kinds...). Please, all of you who care for your health, read the "China Study" and then, only then, argue against being vegan? It s time to go back to nature, both for the sake of our health and for the environment...
The China Study was a real eye opener, hey??
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Re: go vegan for great health
November 22, 2008 - 04:49 AM
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glorious wrote:
I don't know if vegans don't eat milk products because I think this is the most important source for calcium which is essential for life. I won't argue with you that you can't live without animal products, because you can!! But I don't agree that it's the only way of eating!
You don't know if vegans don't eat milk products?
I understand what you're trying to say...
Though, it's not totally necessary to have to consume calcium from dairy... you can get also from plant sources... vegetables (especially dark green vegies), legumes, soy & nuts. And it's even been said that calcium from plant sources is more easily absorbed than from dairy.
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Re: go vegan for great health
December 1, 2008 - 07:29 PM
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I am a long-term (15+ year?) vegetarian and have been 'almost vegan' for long periods. By almost vegan I mean probably eating less than a pizza every month in terms of dairy intake.
I do think that cutting out meat its an excellent way to live your life, but these days my attitude is that there's no need to be puritan about it. If there's a tiny bit of meat in an otherwise vegetarian dish I no longer reject the whole dish, I will often eat it.
This is because after years of being vegetarian I went through a difficult period and it registered that I didn't feel as healthy as I used to. I began to eat a little meat. I did actually feel a lot better, for awhile, having done so. But as I cut it out again I realised that I only needed a token quantity once in a blue moon to feel fine. So basically I eat a tiny amount of leftovers of other people's food if they happen to be there, and otherwise eat pure veg, which is easy to do here in China.
I think vegans could consider relaxing a little about their diet, it's not that I condone meat consumption but if something's going to be wasted anyway (and it's not your fault, and consuming it won't contribute to the problem) then I say do it. Your body just might find it useful. All life basically requires destruction of other beings (even Jains kill accidentally), so why cut short your life which has required such destruction thus far by starving yourself of a tiny amount of carcass that would otherwise go to waste.
Honestly, I only say this because all of the vegans I've met have looked sickly and pale.
Anyway if you ever come to China check out my Vegetarian China website, updated recently and with some vegan-specific info. Also check out my company dajiudian.info China Hotel Bookings. 
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Re: go vegan for great health
December 1, 2008 - 11:18 PM
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I lived in California most of my life and observed both kind of people "vegetarian" and "eat anything". In talking with both types of people I have never seen a pattern of one lifestyle being more healthy than the other, in terms of staying healthy and avoiding disease.
For me the obvious answer is to eat smart but don't become a zealot on any particular diet. My ancestors came from Europe where eating meat and fat is part of a long pattern. My genes are different than the genes of Asian people who have never had a heavy diet of meat, but consume starchy rice by the ton. I don't know how anyone can believe the rice as the primary food staple is a better diet than a moderate consumption of food from all food groups.
If you want to try a special diet for reasons of health or weight loss, I say "go ahead and try". But if the diet is not accomplishing its desired effect then it seem illogical to continue eating in a manner that your body rejects.
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Re: go vegan for great health
December 2, 2008 - 08:39 PM
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I think vegans who are 'sickly and pale' aren't eating a healthy-enough vegan diet... or they didn't research the vegan diet well enough before jumping into it.
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Re: go vegan for great health
December 7, 2008 - 07:57 PM
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What are everyones reasons for going vegan? I just want to know?
You are right that a vegan that looks pale and sickly obviously is not doing something right.
But what is the reason for going vegan? you don't like the meat or think that killing an animal is wrong for food.
This is where it gets interesting.
To be able to live properly on a vegan diet (in my opinion) you need a bit to much money to keep the diet going for a couple of reasons - if you are a big built person good luck keeping that shape on a vegan diet you need to spend to much money to keep a full feeling and just to feel right.
OR you could do what our survival instincts have been telling us for......I don't know.....a fair while now to eat the big creature walking 100meters over there and have enough energy for the next flight or fight situation or to even hunt down the next meal.
again this is my own opinion.
I think the Vegan diet will make you weak and slow, I have seen so many "vegans" loose there teeth because the poor cow had to give up that milk unfairly or the cow has been prod'd with a prod a little harder than the rest.
Vegans have been allowed to come into existence more due to the fact that all the meat eaters have done the hard work in the past by winning wars and whole civilizations where kept alive by eating big meaty objects, do you think this all could have been done by a bunch of people licking moss from an underside of a rock?
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Re: go vegan for great health
December 8, 2008 - 06:48 AM
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V0llEY...
I went vegan for a few reasons, 1. because I feel that I don't feel I need to eat animal products to live a healthy life, 2. because I don't want to support the the meat industry, along with the dairy & egg industries. Others reasons being environmental (http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=20772&Cr=global&Cr1=warming) & also humanitarian reasons (http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0517-03.htm).
I was a huge meat lover... especially of pork, bacon & corned beef. But after reading & watching videos, documentaries etc on how these animals are treated... I didn't believe it was right. Now, that I'm vegan, I don't believe in eating meat at all, but as you know, this is my own personal belief. I've never tried to toss my vegan beliefs into non-veg*ns faces, as I find that's wrong. If people want to eat meat, I won't stop them... but if they want to know appalling things that happen to animals so they can be a meal on someone's plate, than I am usually more than happy to inform them.
To be honest, where I live, I find it pretty easy... I know (and my mother too, she's vegan as well) where to go to buy good quality, cheap vegan food, so I've got it pretty lucky compared to other vegans (and people who have desire to go vegan), as they may live in areas where shops etc don't have enough vegan friendly food.
Prodding is only 1 part of it. I have seen myself, on online & in documentaries, cows being shot in the head with a stun gun & then their throats cut, without anesthesia and in a lot of cases, have still been conscious, afterwards, are hung upside down and are left to 'bleed out'.
I personally, have never met a person who have lost any of their teeth from their vegan diet.
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Re: go vegan for great health
January 7, 2009 - 02:17 PM
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I think that going vegan is a healthy way to go on a diet. Lately much has been heard about anorexia and bulemia and going vegan is a safe and nutritional option.
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Re: go vegan for great health
March 6, 2009 - 09:51 PM
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for everyone of these issues about eating I have read the same repeated lore is revisited time and time again the what we eat the how we eat when we eat what to do with what we eat the connections to the world outside of what we eat
and the forces which intertwine us to a greater being or such well this is a bold and largely disputed claim to fame I know that is right I am and have been since birth working towards this deep understanding link to the what is in the eyes on many to be a source of life we are our bodies our minds and the reflection of time past and future strangely I have been working on the right way to say it and it has many voices spun into many senses
just ask staples33@live.ca
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Re: go vegan for great health
May 5, 2009 - 04:43 AM
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I'm glad you plan to eat healthy. But I don't think its very easy for me to go vegan. You see, I grow many crop plants. There's not enough left for me to harvest and then make money out of it to survive if I let those marauding goats who come in herds time and again, and eat up my plants. So I'll stick with eating the goats. . I want to survive too. I'm not eating immoderately. I don't waste food. And if everyoone followed good eating habits, like eating at home, stopping excess consumption, stopping throwing of food that is even a day old by restaurants by people by mad food industry so called experts who say what food is safe and what food is not, mindless manufacture of food, mindless processing of meat even if you don't need to kill so many animals they do it anyway, all characteristic illness of a western civilization, maybe the planet has a real chance of surviving. and we'll all be in great health.
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