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Sean
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Peace and War...
December 12, 2001 - 07:30 AM
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Wow!
You guy's and gal's have said alot. The problem is; we are dancing around so many problems; that we can't see straight.
Bin ladens not the problem, and the Al Queda's not the problem; how's them apples!
The truth is we are the problem! We sit back thinking someone else is going to take care of us and that we need just sit and watch, listen, and talk about it. The talking about it part(what were doing now) is good, but we need to act. Throwing bombs and troops into the area to fight an enemy as elusive as the Bin Laden's, and Taliban, and Al Queda, (OK. maybe not the Taliban)is rock going against rock and as we know in rock, paper, sissors; rock doe's not beat rock, it's a stalemate; think about it?
We need to be like water, or City Pulse, "EVERYWHERE". Thugs like the Bin Laden's, Hitler's, Milosovich's need to know that we are united from one front. That no matter waht they throw at us; we have a common divergent answer, one which they can predict, so they no we will answer.
Since the big day 9 11, we have all been dancing again about what is the correct thing to do. Though the bombs may be part of a greater plan, they are not the answer, what is? well check out Bluefortytwo on my page come January 02.
Today is a new day, and we must change the things we have been doing to get a different response than we have been getting. You are part of the solution, so be ready to step to the plate when it's your turn to swing. SW1
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Mike
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interesting.
December 13, 2001 - 07:23 AM
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sw1 - i await whatever the heck you plan is.
The difficult thing about getting young people involved is that they all think differently, but all with the same passion. Lest those who are not interested, those champions of apathy.
ive thought for a long few moments about how we can get young people, just like me and (you?) involved. however, you need to get them in issue by issue. You can drag them into believing in a uniform approach to something. You cant do that with adults, least of all young people.
We're too passionate, opinionated, arrogant, and overwhelmed for that . . .it sucks doesnt it!
The fire is within us all. We can make a difference, no matter what anyone else says.
Good Luck to Generation Y. We're going to need it.
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Christine Bunyan
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power to generation Y!
December 24, 2001 - 02:31 AM
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Oh my friend, I don't think we will be needing luck.
We the members of Generation Y have the world at our fingertips. We have the technology, progressive thinking, and innovation to make change. What other generation has had so many young activists, innovaters, and entrepreuers? Yet the coolest thing is that so many of us really careabout the world around us and want to make a difference.
We have a lot and suddenly we've become a generation that's seen a lot.
we're gonna be just fine.
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Christine Bunyan
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whoa
December 24, 2001 - 05:57 AM
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wow, I have never considered that possibility. if you don't mind me asking, how do you feel like you were being used?
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Robert Margolis
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Co-opted
December 24, 2001 - 06:58 AM
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One technique I have seen both in large government and even in small communities is when people are asking for fundamental changes is that a "commission" is established to "study the issue". The activists are invited onto the commission. What often happens is that the activists can then be co-opted, since they now get to rub elbows with the elite. In addition, the commission can issue fancy recommendations that are then forgotten or ignored.
My reading of history is that when people ask for simple actions (40 hr week, end to Jim Crow Laws, ban lead, etc.) they can achieve it if they REALLY work for it (this means YEARS of what appear to be NO progress). Remember, Gandhi worked for over 30 years to get the British out of India. He stuck to a simple proposal and went the distance.
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Terri Willard
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Random cautionary note
December 24, 2001 - 11:48 AM
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I agree that Gen Y has a lot of potential. My only caution is too always keep your eyes open. The scariest class I ever took in school was on "Empire and Independence in the Modern World." Over and over again, young people around the world have advocated for change - only to become pawns in broader (and often violent) movements that cemented power in the hands of a new and equally oppressive elite. Studying revolutions in Mexico and China had particularly strong impacts on me given the role of young people in those movements.
The scariest part for me was that I was taking the class at the same time that I was involved in student environmental activism in Washington, DC. It made me wonder to what degree I was being naive - to what degree I was doing what I believed in vs. following the crowd because it was fun to criticize senators and sing songs about the clean air act in their offices. I ended up stepping away from activism for a few years to read everything I could get my hands on in terms of environmental history and a wider variety of perspectives from other countries. I never wanted to have to say "I thought I was doing the right thing, I just didn't know....."
Build your coalitions carefully. Pay attention to both ends and means of change.
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