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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 6, 2008 - 02:13 PM

1st. Name said cures than. 2nd. Everyone is different, what works with one persons chemical make up doesn't necessary work for anothers. 3rd. Theres an effective limit to everything. 4th. Doesn't address disease mutation. Ex: "Cure" for HIV was I believe called ATV, but wasn't efficiently tested and led to the virus mutating to a more severe strain. 4th. Many alternatives aren't effectively understood and can't be dose regulated. Ex: St. Johns Wort for depression. Does work in research but with mixed results since the dose amounts in each pill are not regulated by the FDA, taking one pill could be potentially twice as much or as another. Also, there are complex compounds involved that are not often not biologically understood that can have other side effects and can interact negatively with other medications. This is true for many alternative medicines, which is why pharmecuetical companies do so much testing, because they are held accountable for the public's health to government agencies that other supplements are not.

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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 7, 2008 - 10:34 AM

we can cure it....believe it.

just wait the time

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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 11, 2008 - 06:39 PM

Nope, if there was big pharma would invent a synthetic version and sell it to you at suitable markup. Google a drug called Taxol. It's from a kind of yew that Native Americans would make into a tea for any kind of internal pains.

http://www.conifers.org/ta/ta/brevifolia.htm

There will always be people trying to market hope. Use this cream and look 10 years younger! Lose twenty pounds in five days with this wonder drug! This concoction will give your autistic son his soul back, this will cure your HIV, this all natural extract will make you smarter. Too bad none of the smart pills work or there would be fewer people buying some of this junk.

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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 12, 2008 - 06:20 AM

I dont agree with william van bokkelan completely. I mean yes there are those who will scam you, but there are still things that help that have yet to be understood by science, but partly due to lack of technology and ethical limitations in testing. For instance, there have been several studies showing a significant correlation between the use a magnets on an individual and the reduction of migraines. However, this phenomenon cannot be truly understood since studies on animals cannot be used since they can't express pain from migraines and on humans its essentially impossible since you cannot cut open a persons brain and see specifically what happens since there's too much unknown risk. At most, fMRIs and such can be used to monitor blood flow but there's still an area of error since there will always be space between the treatment and the scanning since magnets can't be kept next to scanning equipment and there's no way of knowing if effects of treatment decrease at a certain rate.

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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 14, 2008 - 05:58 PM

Ever heard of the Hoxsy method? Look it up.

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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 15, 2008 - 06:15 AM

Alright, I looked up the Hoxsy method, and the arguement still stands, it involves taking herbs, which are not isolated compounds and cannot be regulated for dosages. An individual could overdose. Also, it is paired with a sugar free diet, which can be very harmful since your brain in completely reliant on sugars to function. Its banned by the FDA for a reason. The FDA doesn't even "Ban" other supplements like St. John's Wort or fish oil or those stupid diet pills, they just don't support them. When the FDA bans somethings, like it did with ephedra, its for a good reason.

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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 15, 2008 - 02:04 PM

My friend Maria had skin cancer, the doctors put her in a hard-core chemo regime. The first round of chemo nearly killed her. And the cancer just came back. So, at her request, she and her parents switched to the Hoxsy method, after telling their doctor, who was furious. The Hoxsy method worked really well on Maria, and her case was near terminal. Then the police came and arrested her parents for 'neglect', on the grounds that they were not getting Maria treatment for her cancer. Then the Judge ordered Maria's parents to give their 'consent' for Maria to go back into chemo. In other words, Maria was being forced back into chemo. angry

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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 15, 2008 - 05:02 PM

Its especially hard for those who are under 18 and I empathize with you. However, it is important to distinguish feelings of desperation with logic. Alternative methods need proper testing and diseases are amazingly persistent. Using a method that is not properly tested can possibly lead to mutations in a disease that make it even harder to combant and easier to spread. This has happened with HIV, where the virus has mutated multiple times, adapting to medicines and becoming even harder to combat. Also, your friend will approve initially after chemo, thats normal from the effects wearing off, not necessarily an alternative medicine. In addition, the power of belief is amazing. I would encourage her to apply that to the situation at hand then stress over the unchangable circumstances that she is in since stress is notably bad for the body and the immune system.

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Aderral and Meth are both Amphetamines!
October 16, 2008 - 03:30 PM

Research published in the August, 2007 issue of the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry finds that Ritalin, the amphetamine drug used to treat a fictitious medical disorder labeled Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, stunts the growth of children. After three years on the psychotropic drug, children are one inch shorter and 4.4 pounds lighter than their peers, researchers have documented.

The psychiatric industry, of course, has been trying to play down the growth-stunting effects of Ritalin for at least a decade. Research conducted over the last several years by psychiatrists working for the National Institutes of Health initially found evidence of the drug stunting growth of children, yet nevertheless concluded that Ritalin carries "no long-term growth risk" to children. (Those researchers, by the way, failed to disclose their financial conflicts of interest with drug companies.)

Because of that conclusion, psychiatrists have refrained from warning parents about the fact that Ritalin stunts the growth of their children, focusing instead of how their children need "treatment" to correct a "brain chemistry disorder" that was, in reality, invented by the Big Pharma-backed psychiatric industry as a way to sell more drugs to children who don't need them.

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Re:Aderral and Meth are both Amphetamines!
October 16, 2008 - 03:33 PM

Ritalin is an amphetamine. In street lingo, it's called "speed." Selling speed to children is a felony, but feeding speed to children with a prescription is called "treatment." The practice of dosing children with powerful, mind-altering drugs is, in fact, a form of chemical abuse, yet it is tolerated today because it is framed in the language of medicine. Parents and teachers all too easily agree to the mass drugging of schoolchildren because it makes symptoms of ADHD seemingly go away. This drugging practice is, ultimately, pursued for the convenience of the children's caretakers and the profits of powerful drug companies, not out of any real concern for the health of the children.

Nutritional research has shown that the symptoms of ADHD can be completely reversed in 80 percent of children in just two weeks by eliminating processed foods and chemical food additives from their diets. The so-called "disease" of ADHD is really just an expression of behavior caused by extreme dietary imbalances. The entire theory of ADHD can also be completely shot down by simply handing an ADHD child an X-Box or Wii gaming system, after which the child will sit down and engage in extremely focused, attentive and mentally demanding gaming activities for as long as six hours without a single break, and without distraction. If there really were such as disease as Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, such behavior would not be possible.

The truth is that ADHD kids aren't diseased at all: Most schools are simply boring beyond belief, and children don't learn well by being forced to sit still at their desks and listen to teachers ramble their way through meaningless memorization exercises dubbed "history" or "science" or whatever the topic may be. Children learn by doing things, and all that extra hyperactive energy has a useful function if it's channeled into experiential learning exercises.

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Re:Aderral and Meth are both Amphetamines!
October 16, 2008 - 03:36 PM

Nobody knows the long-term effects of Ritalin use on children. As a result, the psychiatric industry is treating children like guinea pigs, waiting to see what might happen after someone takes these amphetamines for a decade or longer. For all we know, Ritalin might stunt the size of the reproductive organs of these children, too, leading to future fertility problems. Perhaps the "Ritalin generation" won't be able to have babies. This is just a guess, but the important point here is that the psychiatric industry is guessing, too. Nobody knows. Long-term testing has not been done. It's all basically a "let's give these drugs to children and see what happens" experiment. It's all quite typical of Big Pharma today, which treats members of the public as revenue-producing guinea pigs who are too stupid to wake up and realize they should be questioning the outrageous claims of treatment now being associated with harmful prescription medications.

These side effects of stunting growth and altering the brain chemistry of children might conceivably be worth it if Ritalin were actually treating a genuine disease. If Ritalin, for example, were preventing brain cancer in at-risk children, it might be reasonable to trade a reduction of cancer risk with stunted growth. But Ritalin has no justifiable medical use whatsoever and is, in fact, more a form of chemical mind control than anything resembling real medicine. To place the growth of children at risk in order to give them a drug so powerful that it would be illegal if sold to children on the street is to engage in medical madness. There is no justification for the mass-treatment of children today with this drug other than the clever exploitation of human beings for profit.

The only medically proven use of Ritalin, it turns out, would be for parents who want their children to be short and stunted. Feed those kids enough Ritalin amphetamines, and they won't grow up to be as tall or have as much muscle mass as their peers. It might be a strategy very useful for grooming children for a career as a horse racing jockey, or growing a world-class gymnast (who are all rather short due to the physics advantage of having a shorter body and limbs), but for those parents actually looking to raise healthy children who express their full genetic potential, Ritalin seems to fall short. (Ahem.)

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Re:Aderral and Meth are both Amphetamines!
October 16, 2008 - 03:39 PM

For those parents looking to ruin the health of their children, on the other hand, dosing kids three times a day with amphetamines seems to be quite useful. But why stop there? Why not graduate to METH amphetamines, too, and start giving your kids street meth like the militaries of the world already give to their soldiers? It makes about as much sense as giving them Ritalin, but believe me, if Big Pharma could find a way to control and legalize meth, psychiatrists would no doubt be standing by, ready to invent a fictitious disease "treated" by meth. (Remember, too, that street meth is manufactured from drug company cold medicines sold over the counter to children.)

It all makes you wonder about the Partnership For a Drug-Free America, doesn't it? This is an organization funded in part by drug companies, which seems to have no problem whatsoever about the mass drugging of children with Ritalin amphetamines. The "Partnership," in my opinion, isn't about making America drug free, it's about making America addicted to Big Pharma's drugs while curbing use of the competition: street drugs. The Partnership says, "Ritalin is a valuable medicine." Are they on crack?

Not surprisingly, when it comes to Ritalin and the drugging of children, it's all about the profit. The best way to market a drug is to first market a disorder, then pitch the drug as the only known treatment for that disorder.

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Re:Aderral and Meth are both Amphetamines!
October 16, 2008 - 03:41 PM

In my opinion, what's happening today in psychiatric medicine is a crime against humanity and a form of chemical abuse towards children. Rather than pretending that these psychiatrists have any real medical authority, we should instead be locking them up and prosecuting them for these Nazi-style chemical assaults upon the population. Modern psychiatry, through its rampant chemical poisoning of the people, has proven itself to be far more dangerous to the safety of Americans than any terrorist threat, and in any honest society, these people would be stripped of their right to practice "medicine," and denied access to children. We need a nationwide restraining order against practitioners of modern psychiatry!

I believe it is time we abolished the industry of psychiatry and its disastrous "treatment" of children with dangerous, mind-altering chemicals. If we continue to allow these profit-minded psych doctors to drug an entire generation with amphetamines, the long-term consequences to society will no doubt be devastating. Children do not need mind-altering drugs to demonstrate normal, balanced behavior. They simply need honest nutrition, responsible parenting and to be kept away from refined sugars, petrochemical food additives and processed foods.

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Re: There are cures for Cancer!
October 16, 2008 - 04:50 PM

First of all, some basic chemistry. Your body naturally produces amphetamines. The point of Ritalin is to maintain the body's natural balance for those who are physically unbalanced (not just from being bored in school). Second, anything taken in excess is bad for you, even water. Third, there are alternatives to Ritalin since many drugs don't work the same on children. Also, unfortunately, long term effects of drugs cannot be known right away, that's why they are long term. In addition, a medication that has been noted to improve individuals with ADHD is not going to be thrown out over research saying Ritalin stunts their growth or leads to infertility when there are millions of other factors that lead to that. First, there's no way of really knowing how tall a person would get before taking a drug. Then there are other factors such as drinking coffee, smoking, other drug interactions, PCBs and other contaminants in food and water (there are TONS), and so on. These factors can also contribute to infertility, which effect not only those on Ritalin, but women on a whole in the U.S. have been having fertility problems. When all this is taken into account, the findings on Ritalin aren't that earth shattering. Also, ADHD is a real problem and shouldn't be belittled to something such as boredom because those who need help won't get it then. There are numerous suggestions for what causes ADHD but it all comes down to a REAL chemical imbalance that causes hardship for an individual. I've worked with kids with ADHD and they need special care, not to be chucked in front of a playstation.