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[Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 5, 2008 - 07:19 AM
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The issue of homosexuality is quite a controversal and sensitive one. While some people argue that it is a learned behaviour and a product of environmental/social interaction; others are of the view that some people are born homosexuals. In fact, some people think it is an interaction of nature and nurture. As controversal as this phenomenon is, it is particularly interesting to know other people's thoughts on this. Please have your say on this issue if you can. Education is the antidote for ignorance.
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[Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
Homosexuals are born to be so
(6 votes for 23.08%)
Homosexuals learn to be so
(12 votes for 46.15%)
Homosexuals are partially born to be so and partially learn to be so
(6 votes for 23.08%)
All of the above is true
(0 votes for 0%)
None of the above is true
(2 votes for 7.69%)
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 8, 2008 - 05:50 PM
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There isnt much to be said.Homosexuality is learnt .Everyone should accept it as a deviant behaviour.It is so obvious that the sex organs were designed specifically for reproduction and nothing else.Homosexuality is a form of rebellion from the norm.Personally I am a very queit person.I dont make a lot of girl friends as every normal guy would but I can tell you there is still a lot of attraction to the opposite sex. On a scale of normal guy girl relationships I may just score 3 out of 10 but there is nothing that will change my mind that Homosexuality is a deviant behaviour.The Bible clearly disapproves of homosexuality. You know what happend to the people who were calling for Lots visitors? It think they were blinded before the city was distroyed.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 9, 2008 - 04:46 PM
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i would vote for the second one , in my point of view homosexuality is nurtured cause the nature of the human is always seeking for what complete it and satisfy its needs , the opposite sex is the best solution to reach the highst value of stability , beside it is the ONLY way for reproduction and forming new lives..opposing the nature and the norm is a kind of defect and would cause much of disturbance..
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 12, 2008 - 04:05 AM
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Hi, a real live gay here. I didn't choose to be homosexual, nor did i have any homosexual influences growing up. There are times when I would soooo much rather be straight, but it is really not an option because I would not be true to myself. I am not about to go out and marry some poor woman and have her fall in love with me, only to have to divorce her years later because I can not truly love her that way (as so many men do)
So, no, I did not choose to become some sort of sexual deviant and rebel against the norm. But I have chosen to make the best of what God has given me and embrace the situation.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 12, 2008 - 02:20 PM
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I am not surprised that a self confessed homosexual is a natural born citizen of the USA. Dont get me wrong , I think you're from a great country BUT I wholeheartedly feel that America is too liberal. Growing up in such liberal surroundings only makes one feel that everything should be condoned even though it is a religious taboo shared by all religions. Maybe your attraction to men stems from a genuine distrust of women, or maybe you havent felt the warm and passionate embrace of a woman. I can gurantee you that after you taste the fruit of life you'll NEVER look at men again.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 12, 2008 - 06:49 PM
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Wow. Ok. You really don't understand the US do you? Too liberal? Have you heard of our dear President, Mr. Bush? He is about as conservative as you can get.
To be honest, my sexual orientation is not condoned by many people. Though again, I am not willing to ignore my wants and needs to just satisfy people who hold different beliefs than I do. I refuse to compromise for another's benefit. This is not a decision that my "too-liberal" society made for me, it is one that I have decided to face by myself, pretty much single-handedly.
As for it being against most religions, homosexuality has actually been found throughout history (ever heard of Alexander the Great or the militaristic city-state Sparta?), and I am actually a practicing Christian with a strong faith. I don't see any conflict, because I know that my God loves unconditionally.
Also, I have "felt the embrace of a woman" or whatever you were trying to say. And I understand that you might find that immensely pleasurable, but I as a homosexual do not.
As for distrusting women? That is the most backwards thing I have ever heard. Probably the first ten people I "came out" to were women, so that right there pretty much says that I trust them.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 13, 2008 - 11:37 AM
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I'm replying to this thread as a Moderator - just to remind everyone to avoid making personal comments or attacks towards other TIG members. Remember that you are discussing an issue, not commenting or passing judgment on any individuals participating in the discussion. Homosexuality can be a contentious issue on TakingITGlobal because our members come from such a variety of backgrounds and beliefs. Let's all try to talk about it respectfully and avoid absolutes, offensive language or personal comments.
Thank you!
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 13, 2008 - 11:51 AM
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kaboharold wrote:
I am not surprised that a self confessed homosexual is a natural born citizen of the USA. Dont get me wrong , I think you're from a great country BUT I wholeheartedly feel that America is too liberal. Growing up in such liberal surroundings only makes one feel that everything should be condoned even though it is a religious taboo shared by all religions. Maybe your attraction to men stems from a genuine distrust of women, or maybe you havent felt the warm and passionate embrace of a woman. I can gurantee you that after you taste the fruit of life you'll NEVER look at men again.
Read a little more about homosexuality and gay and lesbian people .Perhaps then, your misconceptions would be removed.
For a start, you can check out wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
It is nature which decides one's sexual orientation. We dont have much choice there !
I have many gay friends and none of them chose to be gay. Infact they even wish to be straight just to escape the prejudice they face in the society but they can't change who they are !
And denying their right to be so is a violation of the very basic human right.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 16, 2008 - 06:16 PM
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I want to belive that the act of practising homosexuality is mostly learnt by people beliving that they have a better flair for their male counterpart, than the opposite sex. It to an extent cannot be inborne.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 17, 2008 - 10:57 AM
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Good eveninig Mr Anderson
First and foremost let me take this time to apologise for my late response. It irks me as a christian to hear my fellow Christian brothers take the view that God loves them unconditionally. There is a reason Soddom and Gommorrah were destroyed by angels carrying out the wishes of the God you so claim to love.
You also mentioned the exploits of one of the greatest Generals of all time, Magus Alexandros aka Alexander The Great... Judging by your assessment of his character, I surmise that you watched the Oliver Stone movie starring Colin Farrell and the utterly delicious Mrs Jolie-Pitt. In my honest opinion, it was an ugly portrayal of history. Alexander had a wife!!!! Whether he was gay or not is still debated today. Mr Anderson, please dont take this as a personal attack, I admire a man who is bold in expressing his beliefs, however, I also feel that homosexuality is a learned behavior that stems from ones social environment. George W. Bush may not be liberal but Joe Libermann and some US States eg California certainly condone homosexuality.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 17, 2008 - 11:19 AM
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Hello Anu maheshwari
My standpoint on this issue should not be classified as a gross misconception. Everything in life comes with a chioce. Your friends are who they are because they choose to be that way. Sometimes I feel like telling my university lecturers to flush themselves in a drain. However, I CHOOSE to refrain from telling them beacuse of the expected consequences I might incurr.
The gist of my argument Anu is that your friends have the CHOICE to refrain from giving in to their sordid emotions. Homosexuality is not something one is born with. It is a behavior that is learned and can be corrected through patience and intense counselling.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 17, 2008 - 11:26 AM
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Hello LauraK
Thank you for being the voice of reason in this loaded discussion. When societies break down, we rely on strong willed women who embody the moral fibre we expect our youth to have to speak up. Thank you once again Laura
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 17, 2008 - 09:15 PM
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kaboharold wrote:
Hello Anu maheshwari
Your lily- livered liberal comments wont earn you any points. My standpoint on this issue should not be classified as a gross misconception. Everything in life comes with a chioce. Your friends are who they are because they choose to be that way. Sometimes I feel like telling my university lecturers to flush themselves in a drain. However, I CHOOSE to refrain from telling them beacuse of the expected consequences I might incurr.
The gist of my argument Anu is that your friends have the CHOICE to refrain from giving in to their sordid emotions. Homosexuality is not something one is born with. It is a behavior that is learned and can be corrected through patience and intense counselling.
Dear Kabo,
Actually, we still do not know if our actions are learned or genetically predisposed (choice vs nature or whatever you choose to call it). This is why there are different schools in Psychology, such as behaviorism and the cognitive sciences. Psychology is a science that studies homosexual behaviour, and scholars have debated between nurture and nature theories for decades; so how can you say so radically that everything we do in life is a choice?
We are still genetically predisposed to many behaviours, as other animals. Is acquiring language a choice? Or not quite so? I am more inclined to say it's not a choice, as Chomsky said.
Consequently, homosexuality is almost undoubtedly predisposed and we cannot "choose" our gender group.
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 18, 2008 - 01:50 AM
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Hi,
I would just like to remind you, my Christian brother, that whatever happened with Sodom and Gomorrah took place in the Old Testament. We're talking about the same God who drowned the entire world (almost) in a flood and took the lives of the eldest son in every Egyptian family, a very violent God. Luckily, we as Christians also believe that Jesus Christ came to Earth to save us. This means that God loves the whole world and everyone who lives in it.
Now, I agree with you, that if I go around having unsolicited homosexual sex with many different partners, then I would be committing a sin (many of them actually). However, I see no problem in seeking a monogamous relationship with another man and I think that my God would agree. I do not see homosexuality as a sin.
As for Alexander, I think the movie is complete trash, and I know his possible homosexuality is still up for debate. There is also a debate for the fictional Achilles and even Abraham Lincoln, not to mention most of the artists of the European Renaissance. The fact is that although it may not have been as explicit as it is today, homosexuality is surprisingly prevalent throughout the annals of history.
As for the liberality of the US, the government does not make people gay. The people (since it is democratic) choose to make the government more protective of the basic human rights of its citizens, but there is still a lot to be done.
Oh, and Laura, I would like to apologize about before.. I got a little too carried away and I am sorry
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Re: [Poll] Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture?
August 18, 2008 - 03:07 AM
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I am delighted to see a sense of engagement amongst people of all backgrounds, philosophical persuasions and sexual orientation. However, I urge all contributors to exercise restrain and maintain some level of civility. I raised this issue because I believe that in a civilised society, the need for ongoing engagement with both sides of the isle would help foster a debate in which everyone would have the freedom to express themselves without fear of persecution. Please continue the conversation and remain the voice of reason.
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