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davyk
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Re: MUGABE AND ZIMBABWE
July 14, 2008 - 10:20 AM
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chybuz wrote:
Dkaiyo, I see no sense in what you said about the opposition. With out you people,i mean Zimbabweans ,announcing the 1st election result we already know that Morgan would win. Because we in Nigeria know that Robert Mugabe is a failure ,when it comes to governance so ,If you say there was rigging in the first election that pronounced Morgan a winner for having winning most of the votes in the different provinces in Zimbabwe.So you see, Mugabe would not in any way win any body that contest with him ,be it Morgan or even you Dkaiyo.
And you base your knowledge on what you hear, see in the "international media" the foot soilders of the Western imperialist!
From what you have said i think you have not been the discussions here on TIG very well. There is a post i posted that showed the breakdown of the presidential election and it showed that Mugabe won popular vote in six of the ten provinces we have here! I encourage you to see the discussion "zimbabwe election update" under current events for more on this.
I will give you an example of one South African economist Dr Rachidi Molapo recently said "The Zimbabwean situation is a big complex if you don't understand a political history. The international institutions had control, in terms of how the economies developed and today people are … looking at the impact of the IMF and World Bank on the Zimbabwean economy,” Dr Rachidi Molapo is an international political economy lecturer at the University of Venda in Limpopo SA.
Tsvangison and his handlers should learn in boxing match winning one does not mean winning the match second round is inevitable if you dont make it a KO.
So man you judgement is biased because you base it on hearsay and lies of the "international media"
Tell me did you see the story where the Sunday Times was apologising for lying to the world about a Zimbabwean boy ?
Or its one of those things you just sweep under the carpet and pretent it never happen!
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Re: MUGABE AND ZIMBABWE
July 16, 2008 - 05:58 AM
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The West,Imperialists,Colonial Masters,call it whatever is what comes out whenever Zimbabwe pops up.Is time Africans and the so called West get it straight that we depend on each other in terms of resources and knowledge.So we have to stop this bru ha ha and find solution to this turmoil.
Someone did write to me saying Mugabe was hailed when he visited Ghana so it means he is considered as an African liberator. My friend, if you dont know Ghanaians will listen to every body who has something on his mind and after that make thier judgement and will not rush into conclusion.
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chybuz
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Re: MUGABE AND ZIMBABWE
July 18, 2008 - 04:09 PM
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Dkaiyo,
Am back again,with a new 1 concerning your country Zimbabwe.Though i was thinking not to jeopardize the relationship of my country and the world but i still thought it wise reminding you of another Decision taking by the United nations,May be you have gotten the message or not but am telling you that your country is yet to see the worse.May be Robert Mugabe is self reliant or maybe he believes with out the world he could live .I pray to live more and see where Mugabe's stubbornness leads him and the country he Governs .
Dkaiyo, You guys are suffering ,there is no doubt about that. So think wise and ahead. The Future matters a lot in every life on earth.
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davyk
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Re: MUGABE AND ZIMBABWE
July 21, 2008 - 03:48 AM
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chybuz wrote:
Dkaiyo,
Am back again,with a new 1 concerning your country Zimbabwe.Though i was thinking not to jeopardize the relationship of my country and the world but i still thought it wise reminding you of another Decision taking by the United nations,May be you have gotten the message or not but am telling you that your country is yet to see the worse.May be Robert Mugabe is self reliant or maybe he believes with out the world he could live .I pray to live more and see where Mugabe's stubbornness leads him and the country he Governs .
Dkaiyo, You guys are suffering ,there is no doubt about that. So think wise and ahead. The Future matters a lot in every life on earth.
My friend it does get any worse than what we have seen so far. The sanctions we have had to endure for the past ten years.
I agree we are suffering thats why i don't subscribe to the "targeted sanctions" notion. But the suffering of today cannot be compared with the joy that awaits us in future. I would rather suffer for now as my fathers,mothers brothers and sisters did during the war of the liberation and see the joy that came from the victory that culmananted to the independence in 1980.
Mugabe has stood against the imperialists and thats why he has "to go" by every means. The man has challenged the agenda of the west and frustrated their plans and this has led to his demonisation by them.
The west is NOT the world so we can survive with our all weather friends who supported us from the war of liberation.
We have been there before and we know what it means to suffer and we will survive.
Together We Shall Overcome!
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Teodor Zidaru
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Re: MUGABE AND ZIMBABWE
July 22, 2008 - 05:26 PM
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Dkaiyo,
As far as the sanctions ar concerned, I do not agree with them either. It is a ludicrous thing to do, as it only has a worsening effect on the economy. The West should know better...
Sanctions aside, it is fascinating for me at least that you are so passionate about Mugabe and think very positively of the outcome of Zimbabwe under his rule. Please, tell us why do you think so...when everyone els thinks Mugabe's a tyrant?
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davyk
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Re: MUGABE AND ZIMBABWE
July 23, 2008 - 08:23 AM
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TheoZ wrote:
Dkaiyo,
Sanctions aside, it is fascinating for me at least that you are so passionate about Mugabe and think very positively of the outcome of Zimbabwe under his rule. Please, tell us why do you think so...when everyone els thinks Mugabe's a tyrant?
Thanks for the question.The issue here is not about Mugabe it goes beyond that. It is an issue of national agenda. I will not go into detail about his crediatials which im sure you have heard them. The reason why i support Mugabe is not about the personhood of Mugabe. Its about the principles and what the man stands for. He stands for true Pan Africanism and total emacipation and empowerment of the black africans.
The man has fought colonialism and now neocolonialism for more than half his life and does not compromise on what he stands for.He is the only African head of state who can stand up against the imperilists Bush and his allies.Where in Africa have you seen the kind of land reform undertaken in Zimbabwe? The man has undone the wrongs of colonialism and the West hate him for that.
The reason that "everyone" thinks he is atyrant is because of the demonisation in the media. These guys have done a good job in shaping the opinion of the people.I will take you back to the 1980's the man was a darling of the west receiving accolades, honorary degrees have asked yourself why?
He is still very much a hero for what he did for the black africans giving back their land which had been taken by the colonialists.
For that i support him!
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davyk
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Re: MUGABE AND ZIMBABWE
July 23, 2008 - 10:15 AM
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chybuz wrote:
Am not from the west but i know barely every story about the sanction.
If mugabe has his people at heart ,i mean all his people ,he would not have done what led to the sanctions from the west.
No matter the circumstance.
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So if you know every story about sanctions why do you go on heaping all the blame of our economic woes to Mugabe?
Mugabe attracted sanctions after challenging the west and taking back the LAND from the colonial masters. So you think he should have left the staus quo where only 4000 white people controlling 75% of the land?
Mugabe is right land reform needed to be done but the west thinks otherwise because their kith and kin were told to give back what belongs to us?
So you think Mugabe should have left the UK get away with renegading on the Lancaster House Agreement?
No! Sanctions or no sanctions MUGABE IS RIGHT. ZIMBABWE IS FOR ZIMBABWEANS! not for some british citizens nonresident owners! NEVER.
We would rather suffer but with the land in the hands of its rightful owners!
Land to the people was the objective of the liberation struggle for 15 years war was wagged for the reclamation of the LAND.
Land to the people comrades!
Aluta Continua!
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Re: MUGABE AND ZIMBABWE
July 25, 2008 - 04:32 AM
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People choose to demonise Mugabe and fail to look at the the effects of sanctions on the economy. They blame Mugabe for the economic meltdown but at a look at this quotation from the ZIDERA sactions Act of the US.
A closer look at one of the key legislative instruments that provide a backdrop to the financial ostracisation, namely the US Congress’ Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act (ZIDERA), gives some indication as to why the outcome of the talks is, ultimately, dependent on the goodwill and support of the international community.
ZIDERA effectively blocks, through the executive directors representing the US in international financial institutions, “support that is intended to promote Zimbabwe’s economic recovery and development, the stabilisation of the Zimbabwe dollar, and the viability of Zimbabwe’s democratic institutions”.
http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/magaisa88.18526.html
How then can we blame Mugabe for all the woes we are facing?
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