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Abdallah Diwan

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Improving education and training
July 21, 2003 - 08:02 AM

All the UN Bigconferences put a priority on education. Every young person has the right to an education that can help them develop their full physical and mental capacity, according to the convention on the rights of the chiled ( Article 28 and 29). in the long run, education is essential for geting a job, for promoting understanding and tolerence between different groups, and for being able to understand and protect the environment we live in. Government Commitements on education from the conferences focus on making sure all children can attend schools ( enrolment targets), improving the quality and content of education, making sure schools care for people with special needs, and involving the community as a whole in education. Governments are not able to fix everything by themselves, but they have to set the right examples and priorities. Improving education requires partnership between govrnments, schools, community groups and non-governmental organizations, and students and their families.
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July 21, 2003 - 08:23 AM

Working on improving education and training is an essenatial from my point of view, young people should be well prepared to the marekt requirments. So I hope that all of these international steps come to a comprehensive and effective strategies for the seek of all the young people world wide.

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Abdallah Diwan

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July 21, 2003 - 08:24 AM

that s really true smile


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July 21, 2003 - 08:35 AM

I always believd that by improving education the whole country develops.
By this we are creating a new generation.
However,it is a very hard mission and needs professional work not just any random changeswink


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July 21, 2003 - 09:42 AM

good point abdallah , keep the good work


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Eslam Shaaban

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July 23, 2003 - 08:30 AM

when you look at birds ull finf that birds always help their kids and tought them how to fly,those are birds
whata about us??
we just watsh the birds and say oh woow but we nevet think about the meaning they are trying to let us know.
which is education and training so inorde to help the new generations to fly, live and be much more stronger to face our their lifes, we must help them to be well educated and well trained
so as they ll never have the abilty to face the life`s crisis without having their sufficent opportunity of education and also sufficent opportunityof training
By this means they will not lose time and effort searching and having trainings ,and they can use this time to gain anew experiences
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gr8 opinion
July 23, 2003 - 08:32 AM

yes abdallah u r right
i agree with u
keep it up


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Re: Improving education and training
July 24, 2003 - 12:10 PM

I once told the wrong person, hurt him, that "one teaches humans but trains animals"! He knew exactly what i meant and it was not his fault that he used the word "train".
All this hocus pocus on being up or on par with the worlds educational systems. It is all there in order to keep economies growing and fighting amongst ourselves/themselves e.i. frictions. Economic wars.
A race for supremacy and not amalgamation, equilibrium or equality on a global scale as one unified force with one goal in mind.
Children are taught what is good for their country or religion first as well as for themselves seeing all others as foes for the same peice(s) of resource.
Present day education is the breeding ground for soldiers of past, present and future mind wars.
Those who sheepfully adapt best end up with the most capital.
We learn how to count, read and write in order to out do others, individuals, groups and/or countries.
Modern days educational purposes are twisted, yet pushed by those living happily in charge and control.
Visionless and short termed destinationed minds.
The leaders should be educated about direction and priorities.

i/not_neo


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Re: Improving education and training
July 24, 2003 - 12:49 PM

Originally posted by not_neo
I once told the wrong person, hurt him, that "one teaches humans but trains animals"! He knew exactly what i meant and it was not his fault that he used the word "train".


I see your point. But humans are both means and ends in ourselves. It would be naive to think of ourselves as only an end; society would be very different, like: who would make sure that you got milk in your fridge? Yourself? Would you keep a cow in your garage? What about the potatoes? My point is: Without someone being trained (or, actually, rather training themselves, of course, driven by curiosity and a wish to help others) for those kind of processes, being a part of the food chain resulting in the milk coming to your local grocery/supermaket, there would be chaos. Perhaps one wants anarchy, but personally I want a bit of structure as well. However, I am just tongue-twisting you here, as a sign of how one could over-interpretate your message. You are attacking the perspective which humans are met; "you are supposed to be trained these specific skills, in order to do x and y. What comes beyond this, is not of our interest."



All this hocus pocus on being up or on par with the worlds educational systems. It is all there in order to keep economies growing and fighting amongst ourselves/themselves e.i. frictions. Economic wars.


Do you equal economic competition with war? Of course, many people view economy as a jungle, where everything is allowed, just as in love and war, but many others dont. I believe that one can be successfull in business, for instance, by not just backstabbing left and right.



A race for supremacy and not amalgamation, equilibrium or equality on a global scale as one unified force with one goal in mind.



"as one unified force with one goal in mind"? What kind of goal would that be? Who would decide that goal? Is the goal to maximise the amount of people on the Earth? To maximise our pleasure-centres in our brain's activity? To develop - in what direction? To build massive starships to invade other worlds? To live peacefully side by side without war? I agree with you, there are some goals I think should be common: like, leaving warfare out of the number 1 priority of people...



Children are taught what is good for their country or religion first as well as for themselves seeing all others as foes for the same peice(s) of resource.


If the world is a jungle, we are all enemies. But hopefully we can develop from that.



Present day education is the breeding ground for soldiers of past, present and future mind wars.



I disagree with your definition of education here. There is a lot of education which you are including in this sort of egotistical mememe-mentality which in fact has a major human development effect. Development as Humans, not just consumers or skills trained slaves for the global economic community.



Those who sheepfully adapt best end up with the most capital.


??
Adapt as adopt the values inherent in the education system, those values which the consumer conglomerate (sic) want us to have? Capital? Why do you care about capital?



We learn how to count, read and write in order to out do others, individuals, groups and/or countries.
Modern days educational purposes are twisted, yet pushed by those living happily in charge and control.


You dont think education can be a goal in itself?



Visionless and short termed destinationed minds.
The leaders should be educated about direction and priorities.


I agree! We need to think more visionary and long term. And our leaders definitely should re-think their priorities.


dltq/raymond


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Getting Educated
July 30, 2003 - 05:21 AM

Well i think education is one of the important factors that affect ones life , so as much as it can be related to real work market as much as it can benefit the person taking it .........


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Re: Improving education and training
August 31, 2003 - 04:46 AM

i'm with you in that dltq


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