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Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
June 20, 2008 - 11:26 AM

HARARE, Zimbabwe - Zimbabwe's opposition leader called on his supporters Friday to challenge President Robert Mugabe's rule in next week's runoff election despite a "wave of brutality" he says the government has unleashed.

Even as Morgan Tsvangirai urged Zimbabweans to have the courage to vote in the face of a violent crackdown, a judge ordered the No. 2 opposition leader held on treason and other charges until after the election.

"The wave of brutality being inflicted upon our people is reminiscent of the worst days of" white rule, Tsvangirai said in an e-mail, one of the few ways he has of reaching voters.

The opposition leader's attempts to tour the country have regularly been stymied by police at road blocks, and the state-controlled media here all but ignore him.

In a statement adopted Friday, European Union leaders threatened authorities in Zimbabwe with more sanctions.

The document, which came at the end of their two-day summit, did not specify what the additional measures would be, but British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said it could include more targeted sanctions against members of Mugabe's government.

"Mugabe's increasingly desperate and isolated regime has unleashed still more violence," Brown said at a news conference in Belgium. "This is a brazen and obscene abuse of power by a criminal cabal."

European Union nations already have in place an arms embargo against Zimbabwe in addition to a suspension of development aid and an assets freeze and travel ban against Mugabe and 125 other top government officials.

Independent human rights activists have accused Mugabe of deploying police, soldiers and party militants in attacks on the opposition meant to ensure he defeats Tsvangirai in the runoff.

The opposition says more than 70 of its activists alone have been killed, and the international community has become so concerned at the violence that some leaders have suggested the runoff be canceled.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080620/ap_on_re_af/zimbabwe


I believe the voters of Zimbabwe already voted to end Mugabe's rule. Mugabe lost the election, and being the tyrant and brutal inhumane dictator he is, he holds on to power through violence and intimidation.

June 27 will finally put him and his supporting cronies to an end for good.

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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
June 22, 2008 - 11:07 AM

Update: Zimbabwe's opposition leader is pulling out of the run-off because of Mugabe's violence and intimidation and his decision to declare war on Zimbabwe's people if they vote him out.

Mugabe truely is a tyrant for the ages.


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
June 25, 2008 - 02:39 AM

And Mugabe is also asking the voters to defeat the imperialists once and for all.

Tsvangirai saw that he is going to lose the run off the pull out is just a media antic as this is not possible according to legal experts here.

Herald Reporters

MDC-T leader Morgan Tsvangirai cannot pull out of Friday’s presidential election run-off, legal experts said yesterday.

Opposition-aligned constitutional lawyer Lovemore Madhuku said Tsvangirai’s decision had no legal force.

Madhuku, chairman of the anti-Government National Constitutional Assembly, told SW Radio Africa: "The strict legal position is that candidature for the run-off or the second election is not a voluntary exercise, you give your consent when you contest the first election."
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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
June 25, 2008 - 02:20 PM


dkaiyo wrote:

And Mugabe is also asking the voters to defeat the imperialists once and for all.

Tsvangirai saw that he is going to lose the run off the pull out is just a media antic as this is not possible according to legal experts here.

Herald Reporters

MDC-T leader Morgan Tsvangirai cannot pull out of Friday’s presidential election run-off, legal experts said yesterday.

Opposition-aligned constitutional lawyer Lovemore Madhuku said Tsvangirai’s decision had no legal force.

Madhuku, chairman of the anti-Government National Constitutional Assembly, told SW Radio Africa: "The strict legal position is that candidature for the run-off or the second election is not a voluntary exercise, you give your consent when you contest the first election."
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Mugabe is using violence to intimidate the voters of Zimbabwe to not show up and vote because he knows full well that if voters do show up to vote, then he will no longer be president. He's cannot hold on to power without killing people.

This has nothing to do with so-called 'imperialists'. Muagbe is just using the white man and the West as a propaganda tool and as a scapegoat for the way he has destroyed the country.

The types of people that still support Mugabe are the same people that would kill their fellow countrymen in order to keep him in power.


If Mugabe does not allow free and fair elections, Zimbabawe will continue to suffer.

dkaiyo, you are part of the problem and not a part of the solution.


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
June 26, 2008 - 04:07 AM


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Mugabe is using violence to intimidate the voters of Zimbabwe to not show up and vote because he knows full well that if voters do show up to vote, then he will no longer be president. He's cannot hold on to power without killing people.

This has nothing to do with so-called 'imperialists'. Muagbe is just using the white man and the West as a propaganda tool and as a scapegoat for the way he has destroyed the country.

The types of people that still support Mugabe are the same people that would kill their fellow countrymen in order to keep him in power.


If Mugabe does not allow free and fair elections, Zimbabawe will continue to suffer under sanctions of the imperialists.

dkaiyo, you are part of the problem and not a part of the solution.


I am very much part of the solution.One thing that we will do is expose and kick out the imperialists and their stooges.

Again you are choosing to ignore the violence being perpetrated by the opposition and focus on what you hear in the weapons of mass deception there at least im no the ground i know what is happenning.
About Mugabe winning its an obvious thing as the masses who are attending the rallies being addressed by his Excellency R G Mugabe.One thing is you cannot deny it dont mess with a revolutionary a man who spent ELEVEN years of his life in a WHITE MAN's PRISION a man who spent FIFTEEN years in the bush fighting the colonialists.

We dont have to kill for Mugabe to remain in power we just embrace what he is offering and vote for him as the 27th will prove.Only tsvangirai has promised to remove mugabe violently and called the foreig forces to invade Zimbabwe and called for sanctions on the country a manwho failed to spend at least 24 hours in a training camp during the war of liberation!

Aluta Continua Comrades!!!


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
June 30, 2008 - 08:07 AM

Now with what happened on Friday the title of this thread should read "Mugabe extends his rule" or "Voters ends the opposition's hopes for power"


with all the demonisation look who is having the last laugh!

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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
June 30, 2008 - 03:14 PM


dkaiyo wrote:

Now with what happened on Friday the title of this thread should read "Mugabe extends his rule" or "Voters ends the opposition's hopes for power"


with all the demonisation look who is having the last laugh!

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Your response just goes to show how sick, depraved and uncivilized of a human being you really are.

Supporting a man that used violence, intimidation and murder to hold on to power when the vast majority of Zimbabweans feared to show up to a sham one-man election, and all you can do is laugh.

The international community will never accept Mugabe as head of state. Your country will continue to suffer for as long as he is dictator.

There's nothing funny about that.


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
July 1, 2008 - 02:55 AM


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Your response just goes to show how sick, depraved and uncivilized of a human being you really are.

Supporting a man that used violence, intimidation and murder to hold on to power when the vast majority of Zimbabweans feared to show up to a sham one-man election, and all you can do is laugh.

The international community will never accept Mugabe as head of state. Your country will continue to suffer for as long as he is dictator.

There's nothing funny about that.


You have called me names and i dont blame you.

You are made the imperialists' agenda has suffered a major blow in Zimbabwe.

At least close to 90% accepts Mugabe as the head of state of Zimbabwe so who cares about what you think or say.

What you should do or push for is dialogue among the political parties in Zimbabwe instead of spending tiime crying foul and calling names.Calling names will not cahnge anything.

I support a man who spent ELEVEN years in a white man's prision and a further Fifteen fighting white imperialists.A principled man who does not be moved no matter what people call him.A man who is fighting for total empowerment of his people by giving them land etc.
An epitome of a true pan africanist a man who champion for the total eradication of neocolonialism.

Mugabe is th Man!


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
July 2, 2008 - 01:15 AM

I don't call people names, but I do point out the obvious when people show their true character and mentality, which is what I did with you. It's not hard to see.

There is no imperialist agenda, but you can't accept that. I understand you may feel politically inferior to the 'white man', that's understandable after so many years of colonial rule. I believe Mugabe has capitlaized on these types of feelings, and has used and exploited these feelings of resentment to justifiy the actions of his government.

I also believe your racism towards white people have blinded your judgement and your ability to see the crimes of your hero Mugabe. How many years has Zimbabwe suffered under this man?

90% of the people do not support Mugabe, this is wishful thinking on your part and a total lie. The elections were a total sham and the opposition's supporters were brutalized and threaten with more and more violence leading up to the run-off.

Zimbabwe's biggest enemny is Robert Mugabe, plain and simple. By supporting this man, you support all his atrocities against your fellow countrymen.

You support this man. What does this say about you?


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
July 2, 2008 - 05:23 AM

After being rejected by voters the man wants to get into power using back door.

Now the EU wants to impose a leader on us what model of democracy is that?

On what grounds should tsvangison form the next government?

these are just shenanigans of the west and thets when you hear someone calling me paranoid.

I wonder is it the will of the people they want to see or their will?

today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2008-07-01T191647Z_01_L25408955_RTRUKO... - 47k - 13 hours ago
www.mg.co.za/article/2008-07-01-eu-wants-tsvangirai-to-head-zim-govt - 49k - 12 hours ago

I agree the west should go and hang a thousand times!


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
July 2, 2008 - 06:38 AM


stevew wrote:


There is no imperialist agenda, but you can't accept that. I understand you may feel politically inferior to the 'white man', that's understandable after so many years of colonial rule. I believe Mugabe has capitlaized on these types of feelings, and has used and exploited these feelings of resentment to justifiy the actions of his government.

I also believe your racism towards white people have blinded your judgement and your ability to see the crimes of your hero Mugabe. How many years has Zimbabwe suffered under this man?


If there is no agenda why is the west so much into this regime change agenda? Now they say they only recognise Tsvangilson as the head of state and thats sick.
On what grounds do they want to do that?
on what basis and for whose interest?
Now that the puppet has left the dutch embassy why hasn't he been hurt yet as he claimed?

I don't feel inferior to white people as you suggested thats why i can tell them to go and hand and don't apologies for it.I know my rights and where i stand.I have many friends who are white and they know that they can not use the skin to discriminate against me (as some still think its rhodesia)

At one time have i potrayed Mugabe as a saint but i speak against the double standards of the west and trying to play holier than thou with us

Its the hypocricy of the west im against


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
July 3, 2008 - 11:22 AM


dkaiyo wrote:

After being rejected by voters the man wants to get into power using back door.

Now the EU wants to impose a leader on us what model of democracy is that?

On what grounds should tsvangison form the next government?

these are just shenanigans of the west and thets when you hear someone calling me paranoid.

I wonder is it the will of the people they want to see or their will?

today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2008-07-01T191647Z_01_L25408955_RTRUKO... - 47k - 13 hours ago
www.mg.co.za/article/2008-07-01-eu-wants-tsvangirai-to-head-zim-govt - 49k - 12 hours ago

I agree the west should go and hang a thousand times!


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Mugabe wants to impose himself as leader on the people of Zimbabwe, even when they don't want him.

In order to stay in power, Mugabe must use violence and initimidation.

The people don't want him as leader because he has ruined the country and has committed many human rights abuses.

The international does not need to care, because Zimbabwe has little global significance. But the people of Zimbabwe should care, because they are the victims of Mugabe, and they voted him out.

As long as he retains power through his brutal methods, Zimbabwe will continue to be the most unhappiness place in the world to live.

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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
July 3, 2008 - 11:28 AM


dkaiyo wrote:


stevew wrote:


There is no imperialist agenda, but you can't accept that. I understand you may feel politically inferior to the 'white man', that's understandable after so many years of colonial rule. I believe Mugabe has capitlaized on these types of feelings, and has used and exploited these feelings of resentment to justifiy the actions of his government.

I also believe your racism towards white people have blinded your judgement and your ability to see the crimes of your hero Mugabe. How many years has Zimbabwe suffered under this man?


If there is no agenda why is the west so much into this regime change agenda? Now they say they only recognise Tsvangilson as the head of state and thats sick.
On what grounds do they want to do that?
on what basis and for whose interest?
Now that the puppet has left the dutch embassy why hasn't he been hurt yet as he claimed?

I don't feel inferior to white people as you suggested thats why i can tell them to go and hand and don't apologies for it.I know my rights and where i stand.I have many friends who are white and they know that they can not use the skin to discriminate against me (as some still think its rhodesia)

At one time have i potrayed Mugabe as a saint but i speak against the double standards of the west and trying to play holier than thou with us

Its the hypocricy of the west im against


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If there is an agenda, tell me what it is?

What does Zimbabwe have to offer the international community?

Your country is dirt poor, it has nothing.

You just can't accept that the issue is not the west or an imperialist agenda, but the fact that your country is run by a dictator that has destroyed any chance of prosperity.

I still believe you support Mugabe because you feel inferior to white people and are willing to overlook everything Mugabe has done so long as he keeps up his anti-white racist rhetoric.

If this is not the reason, you can do youself a favor and explain why you support such a violent man.


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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
July 4, 2008 - 10:38 AM



If there is an agenda, tell me what it is?

What does Zimbabwe have to offer the international community?

Your country is dirt poor, it has nothing.

You just can't accept that the issue is not the west or an imperialist agenda, but the fact that your country is run by a dictator that has destroyed any chance of prosperity.

I still believe you support Mugabe because you feel inferior to white people and are willing to overlook everything Mugabe has done so long as he keeps up his anti-white racist rhetoric.

If this is not the reason, you can do youself a favor and explain why you support such a violent man.

if we really have nothing to offfer why is that the british are MAD at us for pursuing the LAND REFORM? and now the indeginisation of the economy?

I support the man for his principle on pan africanism.A man who spent ELEVEN years in a white man's jail and futher FIFTEEN fighting in the bush for the emacipation of our people.A man who has put his head on the line for the sake of empowering our people.
If you really look at it mugabe only became a bad man when he took the LAND to the minority you cannot run away from that fact.

The agenda of the West is neocolonialism.They want to control our resources like platinum we have the second highest deposits of it here after SA.recently we have discovered uranium and diamonds the minerals the west want so much!

You can call mugabe what you want Mandela was once called a terrorist but what has happened now?
name calling will change?
I invite you to study the life of mugabe inthe 70s,80s upto now.you will see the names changing from a terrorist to a true gentleman etc now dictator! its nothing new!

i have just realised you dont know much about Zimbabwe!
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Re: Zimbabwe opposition asks voters to end Mugabe rule
July 4, 2008 - 04:57 PM

The British are mad at you for pursuing land reform? What land reform, please explain further in detail and tell me how this relates to an 'imperialist agenda'.

You're living in the past, you support Mugabe for the things he has done years ago but you still ignore the fact that he has ruined the country and has committed many, many human rights abuses, not against whites but against people like yourself, the people who he supposedly 'liberated' from colonialists.

Prove with evidence and not with Mugabe style rhetoric that the west wants to control Zimbabwe's resources. Show some evidence that this is currently ongoing.

Where's your proof?


If you know so much about the situation of Zimbabwe, then why can you not see how Mugabe has destroyed any chance of prosperity for you country?

Explain this to me.
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