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Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 12, 2008 - 01:26 PM
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This is getting absurd - the charges are becoming so flimsy it amounts to Mugabe arresting someone for treason because they opposed him in an election.
Why does Mugabe even bother having an election? wouldn't it be easier for him to simply admit to himself that he is in fact a dictator?
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E42016D4-0BB2-4371-B709-B42552D51AD6.htm
"The secretary-general of Zimbabwe's opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) is facing treason charges after being arrested as he arrived at Harare airport, police said.
Tendai Biti was taken away in handcuffs within minutes of touching down at Harare airport from South Africa on Thursday.
Just hours later, Morgan Tsvangirai, the MDC's leader and presidential candidate, was detained for the third time in eight days.
Police stopped Tsvangirai at a roadblock outside the central town of Kwekwe, according to a spokesman who was travelling with him.
"We were arrested as the campaign bus was approaching Kwekwe," George Sibotshiwe told AFP news agency by phone from the scene.
"We are now being taken to Kwekwe police station."
State televsion reported in April that Biti was being investigated on suspicion of being the author of a plot to rig the outcome of the March 29 presidential and parliamentary elections.
"He will be charged with contravening section 20 of the criminal law codification for publishing a document that was explaining a transitional strategy around March 26 which in its case is a treasonous charge," Wayne Bvudzijena, national police spokesman, said.
Police had also been seeking his arrest after he announced the MDC had won the general elections before the official results were released."
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 13, 2008 - 02:39 AM
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I always say noone is above the law and Biti as a lawyer should know better.
And being stopped at a roadblock is not the same as being arrested for example i myself was stopped at a roadblock just this morning as oi was driving to work.No big deal Tsvangison.
"Several weeks ago, the Zimbabwean authorities indicated they wanted to question Biti for illegally declaring results of the March 29 2008 harmonized elections in contravention of the Zimbabwe Electoral Act.
The Act stipulates that only the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission (ZEC) is mandated to exclusively announce the results.
The Police Commissioner-General wrote to Biti saying authorities were concerned that he was "urging and abetting political violence" through his political rhetoric.
"What is very conspicuous in the Zimbabwean political arena today is your prominent role in urging and abetting political violence through unbridled rhetoric of incitement.
"You know for sure, your violation of the country’s laws by declaring presidential results which was, in deed, in contravention of Section 110 of the Electoral Act, Chapter 2:13 and is still to be attended to by the police,” the Commissioner warned.
This is rule of law dude!
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 15, 2008 - 09:21 PM
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dkaiyo wrote:
And being stopped at a roadblock is not the same as being arrested for example i myself was stopped at a roadblock just this morning as oi was driving to work.No big deal Tsvangison.
YOU AREN'T TRYING TO RUN A CAMPAIGN FOR THE PRESIDENCY, dkaiyo. To Mr. Tsvangirai who is, being hauled off to the police at every roadblock is a major harrassment.
Let's see, the list keeps getting longer:
1) Kofi Anan is a "white man in a black skin"
2) Bishop Desmond Tutu is a "tool of the West"
3) I am a "blue-eyed boy."
4) Luke is a "dude."
Well, how do you feel about Nelson Mandela? Last November, Mandela and his "Elders Initiative" called on Mugabe to step down rather than lose the next election.
Who are these Elders?
The group includes Mandela, his wife Graça Machel, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Annan, Ela Bhatt, a prominent Indian lawyer and international labour leader, former Norwegian Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, former US president Jimmy Carter, ex-Chinese foreign minister and Peking University professor Li Zhaoxing, former Irish president Mary Robinson, and Muhammad Yunus, a Bangladeshi professor of economics. Mandela, Tutu and Yunus are Nobel Peace Prize winners.
Well, dkaiyo, what choice descriptions do you have for these other people?
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 16, 2008 - 04:15 AM
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prieten47 wrote:
dkaiyo wrote:
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YOU AREN'T TRYING TO RUN A CAMPAIGN FOR THE PRESIDENCY, dkaiyo. To Mr. Tsvangirai who is, being hauled off to the police at every roadblock is a major harrassment.
Let's see, the list keeps getting longer:
1) Kofi Anan is a "white man in a black skin"
2) Bishop Desmond Tutu is a "tool of the West"
3) I am a "blue-eyed boy."
4) Luke is a "dude."
Well, how do you feel about Nelson Mandela? Last November, Mandela and his "Elders Initiative" called on Mugabe to step down rather than lose the next election.
Being an opposition leader and running for the presidency does not make you immune to the laws of the land and worthy salute of the police.There is nothing special about running for the presidency as anyone can do it its your constitutional right!
So again being stopped at a roadblock is nothing special and not worthy to amke headlines but because people like somthing negative to report they make it.
And you have not mentioned the charges of BITI he broke the law and i hope you will agree with me here and deserves to be arrested.
Well about the ELDERS while i have some respect for some of the people in that group i still think they have no RIGHT to tell anyone that they should step down to avoid losing an election.We the people of Zimbabwe should be LEFT ALONE to decide who our next leader should be and God forbid it has not to be tsvangison!
Well P47 i think if you think the word "dude" is an insult or carries any negative connotoations i think you need you need to revise you english.
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 16, 2008 - 09:41 PM
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dkaiyo wrote:
There is nothing special about running for the presidency as anyone can do it its your constitutional right!
So again being stopped at a roadblock is nothing special and not worthy to amke headlines but because people like somthing negative to report they make it.
And you have not mentioned the charges of BITI he broke the law and i hope you will agree with me here and deserves to be arrested.
Your first paragraph is so preposterous that I just don't think it requires any comment.
As to Mr. Biti's arrest, no, I will not agree with you. Any normal democracy allows political parties to monitor and report polling results. The MDC and Mr. Biti simply reported the polling results that had been POSTED at the polling places. Any ridiculous undemocratic laws meant to stifle electoral transparency should be ignored.
The fraudulent vote count by the Election Commission, which they took over three weeks to "cook," was thereby shown to the world to be a farce. I say, thank you, Mr. Biti. You are my hero! You are probably being tortured and beaten right now by Mugabe's police. You may think no one in the world cares about your plight. But freedom-loving people all over the world will not forget your sacrifice for democracy in Zimbabwe. We will also not forget Mugabe's inhumanity.
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 17, 2008 - 03:49 AM
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The law is very clear on who does the announcement of results and BITI broke the law.Of course the results were posted on the polling stations but that does not give anyone the right to break the laws of the land.His arrest is justified even if you don't like it.
I quoted for you the sections of the constitution and you have never said anything about it. Do you think being an opposition leader will make one above the law? Thats rubbish!
Have you read the document in question dubbed "The Transition Strategy." or listened to the endless press conference the man was giving?
what started off as a 68% win came down to 50.3% and during the collation with ZEC before the announcement Biti failed to prove how they arrived at that figure. Why should we believe the amn now?
Biti is your hero fine and Mugabe is also my hero so be it!
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 17, 2008 - 04:16 AM
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If Tendai Biti is hauled in for violating the Electoral Act that stipulates only the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission is mandated to announce election results, the arrest is misrepresented as a clampdown on the opposition.
CNN, BBC and other rightwing media conveniently forget that Biti would have breached the law, that he led them on a merry-dance by claiming Tsvangirai had won the presidential election by over 60 percent with MDC-T had winning over 80 percent of the constituencies, a figure he revised to 57 percent a few hours later before settling for 50,3 percent even though the numbers he tried to use to support his claims gave Tsvangirai only 49,09 percent of the vote.
On April 2, Biti released a contradictory statement claiming Tsvangirai had got 1 169 860 votes to President Mugabe’s 1 043 451. These figures, Biti claimed, gave Tsvangirai 50,3 percent yet simple addition, division and multiplication would have shown the likes of CNN that Tsvangirai would have only 49,09 percent, President Mugabe 43,79 percent meaning no candidate had attained the requisite 50 percent and 1 vote required for an outright win.
What this means is that Biti and other MDC-T leaders will stop at nothing to lie as long as they believe the lies abet their cause to fulfill the contractual obligations entered into with the White House and White Hall to deliver Zimbabwe on a platter.
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 18, 2008 - 04:01 AM
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A ZIMBABWEAN judge ruled late Tuesday that Tendai Biti’s six-day detention since Thursday last week when he was arrested and charged with treason is NOT unlawful.
Biti, secretary general of the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), is now expected to be brought to court sometime on Wednesday, according to the Attorney General’s Office.
On top of the charge of treason and uttering statements prejudicial to the State, Zimbabwean prosecutors were preparing to charge the legislator with “causing disaffection” in the military ranks and insulting President Robert Mugabe.
http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/biti3.18347.html
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 19, 2008 - 07:50 AM
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Mugabe was better when he was arresting opponents. Now he is just getting Zimbabweans to kill Zimbabweans....
ABC Australia reports:
Four MDC supporters found dead near Harare
Four Zimbabwe Opposition activists have been found dead near Harare, ahead of next week's Presidential election.
The Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) has blamed President Robert Mugabe's ruling ZANU-PF party for abducting the four young activists.
The four MDC youth members were abducted on Tuesday and their bodies were discovered in various locations in Chitungwiza, south-east of Harare, said party spokesman Nelson Chamisa.
Mr Chamisa said the MDC suspected they had been abducted after being attacked at a local councillor's residence by ZANU-PF youth supporters armed with clubs and whips.
"Now it's about 70 we've lost," Mr Chamisa said, referring to the number of Opposition supporters they say have been killed since the first round of voting.
"The situation in the country is getting worse. A free and fair election is impossible," he said.
President Robert Mugabe has blamed the MDC for mounting violence ahead of the June 27 run-off election and threatened to arrest Opposition leaders over it.
The MDC says the ruling party unleashed a campaign of intimidation after the first round in March, with party leader Morgan Tsvangirai claiming the country is now run by what is essentially a "military junta".
The UN has blamed Mr Mugabe's supporters for the bulk of the violence.
Mr Tsvangirai defeated Mr Mugabe in the March first round, but with an official vote total just short of an outright majority."
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June 23, 2008 - 10:38 AM
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Remote-Dude wrote:
Mugabe was better when he was arresting opponents. Now he is just getting Zimbabweans to kill Zimbabweans....
ABC Australia reports:
Four MDC supporters found dead near Harare
Four Zimbabwe Opposition activists have been found dead near Harare, ahead of next week's Presidential election.
The Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) has blamed President Robert Mugabe's ruling ZANU-PF party for abducting the four young activists.
The four MDC youth members were abducted on Tuesday and their bodies were discovered in various locations in Chitungwiza, south-east of Harare, said party spokesman Nelson Chamisa.
Mr Chamisa said the MDC suspected they had been abducted after being attacked at a local councillor's residence by ZANU-PF youth supporters armed with clubs and whips.
"Now it's about 70 we've lost," Mr Chamisa said, referring to the number of Opposition supporters they say have been killed since the first round of voting.
"The situation in the country is getting worse. A free and fair election is impossible," he said.
President Robert Mugabe has blamed the MDC for mounting violence ahead of the June 27 run-off election and threatened to arrest Opposition leaders over it.
The MDC says the ruling party unleashed a campaign of intimidation after the first round in March, with party leader Morgan Tsvangirai claiming the country is now run by what is essentially a "military junta".
The UN has blamed Mr Mugabe's supporters for the bulk of the violence.
Mr Tsvangirai defeated Mr Mugabe in the March first round, but with an official vote total just short of an outright majority."
DID YOUR MEDIA REPORTED ABOUT THE ZANUPF SUPPORTERS KILLED BY THE OPPOSITION?
AND WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THAT! I STARTED A THREAD ABOUT IT ALSO TO SEE YOU COMMENTS WILL BE INTERESTING.
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June 25, 2008 - 06:02 AM
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Two SA men breach immigration laws
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TWO South Africans were yesterday convicted on their own plea of guilt to breaching immigration laws after working as MDC-T leader Morgan Tsvangirai’s bodyguards without permits.
Sphiwe Elijah Nkosi and Isaac Lekgoe, both aged 33, who are employed by Pasco Security in South Africa as close security guards, entered Zimbabwe through Plumtree Border Post disguised as visitors destined for Uganda.
The two, who are heavily-built, were clad in black leather jackets and were remanded in custody to today for sentence when they were arraigned before Harare magistrate Ms Gloria Takundwa. Prosecutor Mr Alois Gakata proved that on June 5 this year, the two entered Zimbabwe pretending to be in transit to Uganda.
Instead of going to Uganda, they stayed in the country illegally working as Tsvangirai’s bodyguards, without permits.
On Saturday at around 2am, detectives acting on a tip-off raided them at Country Manna Lodge in Borrowdale where they were staying leading to their arrest.
Investigations established that the two had no relevant papers allowing them to be employed in Zimbabwe.
On their arrest, both men admitted to the charge.
In mitigation, the two pleaded for a lighter sentence saying they were first offenders. They told the court that they were earning R750 per day for close security services.
Mr Gakata applied for the court to deport the two soon after serving their sentences. He said the section under which the two were convicted, prescribes a fine, a prison term of not more than five years or both.
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June 25, 2008 - 02:11 PM
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I commend Dkaiyo's brave and uncompromising defence of his motherland from the western racists on this site.
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June 25, 2008 - 10:25 PM
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YongKyeong wrote:
I commend Dkaiyo's brave and uncompromising defence of his motherland from the western racists on this site.
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That was helpful. Did our friend in North Korea have anything else to add other than name calling.
I think you do. With that in mind I have decided to get both YongKyeong and Dkaiyo together and interview them... in my mind. Her goes:
Craig: YongKyeong and Dkaiyo, thankyou for agreeing to this mental interview.
YongKyeong: Your unwelcome western pig dog.
Dkaiyo: This is an Imperialist plot!
Craig: I notice that you have glossed over the points raised by others on the discussion boards. Let me start by asking do you condone violence against teenagers in your own country for having an alternate point of view?
Dkaiyo: They wouldn't have an alternate point of view if they just listened to the state sponsored and edited media my Lead.. our great country puts out. they would still be alive today if they just capitulated! And they kill us! Our media says so.
YongKyeong: Its all your fault racist western swine!
Craig: On that note, the opposition leader in Zimbabwe is a Zimbabrean National. have you ever spoken to him directly and asked if he has sinnister imperialist plans for Zimbabwe?
Dkaiyo: No! I don't have to. Our Leader President Mugabe said he is so it must be true!
YongKyeong: Everything thats wrong in the world is YOUR fault! I do not wish to participate any more in your lies. I'm leaving.
-YongKyeong walks out-
Craig: Ooookay, Dkaiyo youv'e spoken about imperialism quite a bit. Are you aware that the British empire was disolved and that there are, by definition NO imperialists left in the world?
Dkaiyo: No, this is a lie perpertrated by by America and its allies. You want to take Zimbabwe and all it's wealth and resources for your own?
Craig: What wealth and Resourses?
Dkaiyo: Pardon?
Craig: What wealth and Resourses?
Dkaiyo: Well precious metals and stuff.
Craig: Who told you this?
Dkaiyo: The Media and our great Leader President Magabe.
Craig: Ummm, thankyou very much for you time Dkaiyo.
Dkaiyo: Down with the imperialists!
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Re: Mugabe arrests another opponent
June 26, 2008 - 01:14 AM
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Remote dude - that was classic.
You gatta wonder if this is what the UN is like - crackpots from North Korea and Zimbabwe ranting and raving and accusing everyone ELSE of everything.
Yong - we've been friends before so calling me a racist I think is inappropriate and unfounded. I'm supporting a Black man for president in my country right now.
And I know they don't have free and fair elections in your country - so you don't see any problem with what Mugabe is doing - but there are some people who take a persons right to vote free from state intimidation very seriously.
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June 26, 2008 - 03:40 AM
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Remote-Dude wrote:
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Craig: I notice that you have glossed over the points raised by others on the discussion boards. Let me start by asking do you condone violence against teenagers in your own country for having an alternate point of view?
Dkaiyo: They wouldn't have an alternate point of view if they just listened to the state sponsored and edited media my Lead.. our great country puts out. they would still be alive today if they just capitulated! And they kill us! Our media says so.
Craig: On that note, the opposition leader in Zimbabwe is a Zimbabrean National. have you ever spoken to him directly and asked if he has sinnister imperialist plans for Zimbabwe?
Dkaiyo: No! I don't have to. Our Leader President Mugabe said he is so it must be true!
Craig: Ooookay, Dkaiyo youv'e spoken about imperialism quite a bit. Are you aware that the British empire was disolved and that there are, by definition NO imperialists left in the world?
Dkaiyo: Down with the imperialists!
Well this is one of the worst contributions i have ever seen.For your own information i have spoken to Tsvangison on numerous occasions and the man is such a musclehead who has nothing to offer except "Mugabe should go" gospel.The man regargitates what his handlers would ahve told him remember the post of tyranny speech?
You talked of violence i have said it already I DONT CONDONE VIOLENCE OF ANY KIND maybe you need to follow the discussions more closely.
You say they are No imperialists in the world i will liken such kind of thinking to a fool who try to say they is no AIDS in the world!The british still think they can control us directly or indirectly the tea club called the commonwealth is one such example.The imperialistic agenda is evident in their attempts to contol our resources LAND etc
DOWN WITH IMPERIALISTS!!!!
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