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Patrick Marcello
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Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
July 15, 2003 - 10:51 AM
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Folks,
There is an interesting article on
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/3064105.stm
about AIDS.
What really works in preventing AIDS?
Do the 3rd world nations ever be able to escape this plague?
How can the youth get more involved rather than be told what not to do?
Marcello
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Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
Nelson Mandela has told an Aids convention in Paris that Europe needs to match US funding to fight the disease.
Mr Mandela was speaking at a four day meeting, organised by the International Aids Society to mark the 20th anniversary of the discovery of the HIV virus.
His comments came after the former Brazilian President President Fernando Cardoso criticised the US for using the wrong strategy to fight Aids by promoting abstinence and fidelity.
Brazil has halved the Aids death rate by setting up education campaigns, expanding basic health care and providing all those infected with anti-retroviral drugs.
Should Europe match US funding to fight Aids? Would Brazil's approach to Aids health care work everywhere else? Will America's promotion of abstinence cut Aids cases? How else could the epidemic be tackled?
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abstinence
July 16, 2003 - 02:57 AM
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I agree, education is the way to go. Abstinence is way too unrealistic!
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What is abstinence?
July 16, 2003 - 05:55 AM
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Hi all, i have read posts for the past 2 weeks and was quite satisfied that we have been real to some extent.The AIDS pandemic is a serious issue beyond abstinence or what!
If truly Govts are serious and concerned about those they are governing they should expend on researches that will bring about the lasting solution to this problem than chanting ABSTINENCE that is not attainable
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Re: What is abstinence?
July 16, 2003 - 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by walesalami
If truly Govts are serious and concerned about those they are governing they should expend on researches that will bring about the lasting solution to this problem than chanting ABSTINENCE that is not attainable
it is very interesting to note the current state of affairs. Indeed more research is needed to find sustainable solutions -- such as drugs or vaccinations-- to combat the disease BUT here is the scenario.....
In my opinion
it is NOT economically viable (research costs money) for the big drug companies to develop affordable medications to address the AIDS epedemic for especially the hard hit places such as Africa.
WHY... many people in Africa are poor and cannot afford the Drugs.
take for instance... the SARS.... it hit some parts of ASIA where tourism (business) is multi billion dollar industry, they have managed to slow its spread and probably have developed the cure for it.... it has just disappeared to some extent.
Assumming that SARS had hit Africa, more people would have died than they did in other parts of the world. And probably it still would have been around much longer.
Of course, the argument is not to point fingures in the blame game at anyone, but negleting other parts of the world in an epidemic like AIDS, we are shooting ourselves in the foot Because... with migration the epidemic will cross borders ... just like OSMOSIS in science.
It will take a collective effort to Educate, teach, counsel, and develop real sustainable solutions to address this troubling issue.
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Re: Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
July 16, 2003 - 10:30 AM
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I hope they would, because Bush vetoed the request of many of the worlds' peoples, and nations, to allow AIDS drugs to be provided affordibly to poor African countries torn with AIDS.
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Re: Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
July 16, 2003 - 10:39 AM
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But drug companies charge American consumers big money, so they can afford to be generous.
Well they do not charge American consumers big money so that they can subsidise it in 3rd world nations. They charge more because they want to Make a Profit on the investment they made through research and maximize the value of the stock of their shareholders. It is through international pressure that they cut the price, or make the drugs affordable.
In any case, there are Indian drug companies that manufacture drugs they don't technically have patents for, however some countries find the benefits of cheap drugs for their people to be far more important than international patent law. I think I heard that some countries in Africa were exploring using these Indian suppliers as an option.
Considering that the world is now becoming more globalised, with institutions like the World Trade Organisation, infrastructures like the Internet, the Indian drug companies are bound to run into patent violations with the WTO or World Intellectual Property Organisation (http://www.WIPO.org). Therefore this solution while it may be viable for now, it is not long lasting.
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Re: Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
July 16, 2003 - 12:21 PM
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Bush is obsessed with abstinence. Many sex-ed classes in schools have become "abstinence-only"- denying teens valuable access to information. Guess what? Despite whatever the president may say, teens are stil having sex.
I suspect the same will be true in Africa- money needs to be spent on education (to stop this sex with a virgin as a cure business), treatments and condoms, which can reduce the risk of STDs.
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wrong notion
July 27, 2003 - 08:07 AM
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I am totely disagree. Abestinance can not be used as a tool to prevent AIDS.WE CAN TALK ABOUT MASTURBATION AS A TOOL TO PREVANT AIDS. Promotion of condoms, safer sex practices and non-risky sexual behavior and sexual responsiblity could be utilised to check the spread of virus.
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Re: Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
July 27, 2003 - 12:03 PM
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really great.. keep it on
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Re: Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
December 19, 2003 - 02:41 AM
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We have to be realistic here. Abstinence can only slow down the spread of HIV; however, it can't stop the pandemic. Keep in mind that there are numerous ways of contracting the virus other than through sexual intercourse. I strongly believe that the only way AIDS will be eradicated is through a cure, which I hope, is soon to come. Then again, HIV might never be eradicated, rather it will be controlled through vaccines and cures. All in all, people, especially the youth, need to get regularly tested as well as educated on the facts. And, more importantly, those who test positive need to completely abstain from sex and/or risky behavior such as sharing needles, blood donations, prostitution, etc. I can't emphasize on that enough, but I trust you get the drift.
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What do you mean????
January 22, 2004 - 04:40 AM
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Quote:
"Assumming that SARS had hit Africa, more people would have died than they did in other parts of the world. And probably it still would have been around much longer"
As an African, I am thoroughly disgusted at the comments made by this user about my continent, Africa. This is the kind of ignorance that westerners portray that is absolutely perturbing!! i would like to understand the rationale behind such a statement.
Abstinence is a sure way to prevent and control the spread of HIV and other STI's. No other method guarantees 100% efficiency when it comes to sex. The facts bear me out. Unfortunately abstinence is seen as a redundant, old fashoined way of life. This sort of mentality is what drives people to engage in risky sex with partners whos status is unknown.
I think that if abstinence is too outlandish in your view, then you should know the HIV and STI status of the person you engage in sex with. In these days it is extremely ridiculous to assume that a person is negative and go ahead and sleep with him or her without knowing their status.
I would personally not do more than hold hands(sic) with someone whose status i do not know. you catch the drift.
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abstinence??
January 22, 2004 - 06:23 AM
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Abstinence is far too unrealistic. Priests are meant to have been abstinent, but can you really believe that with all the publicity that has come out about that over the years?
I think better sexual education, particularly about getting sexual health checks would help. Again 'safe sex' with condomns are also not 100% with breakages and misuse being issues as well, but it does help.
Awareness of the importance of your sexual health needs more emphasis to take care of others and yourself. Ignorance is not an excuse. Rape is a completely other matter though and with people like that about ..
But in 3rd world countries, who is going to supply condomns and sex checks for free, and be available enough for everyone to access them? People in developed countries don't take enough care as it is with everything that is available to them; they're probably worse, and they travel too.
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Re: Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
January 31, 2004 - 06:54 AM
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Truely , abstinence aloan can not stop the sread of Aids
for how long will some one abstian ? it is like the end of
Aids already been predicted and so people should abstian
till that . Abstinence is one of the tools to end the
spread of this killer . However the most important one is
to get that one you desire most and visit the concerned
preventers of this H I V /AIDS for blood test befor any
sexual relationship . If both of you are negative , then
be trustfull and have faith in your relationship . If it
is impossible , then use condoms as istructed . Thousands
of people have lost thier livies and this is so sad ! we
have to be responsible as these compianghs go .
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What do you mean????
January 31, 2004 - 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by gatwiri
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"Assumming that SARS had hit Africa, more people would have died than they did in other parts of the world. And probably it still would have been around much longer"
As an African, I am thoroughly disgusted at the comments made by this user about my continent, Africa. This is the kind of ignorance that westerners portray that is absolutely perturbing!! i would like to understand the rationale behind such a statement.
Hi Gatwiri,
I believe all that was meant by the statement was that poverty tends to worsen the impact of a disease. Many countries in Africa simply do not have the medical infrastructure to impose the kinds of quarantines and to provide the kinds of medicines which were required in the last SARS outbreak. Given that situation, it is likely that SARS would have infected more people and that those people (particularly if their immune systems were compromised by HIV or other serious diseases and/or malnutrition) would have had a higher probability of dying from SARS-related complications. It's not a slam on Africans, it's a comment about poverty and the negative feedback cycle between poverty and disease.
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Re: Can abstinence end the spread of Aids?
January 31, 2004 - 10:56 AM
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Although abstinence can reduce the chances of acquiring AIDS, but some might have it and not know it. Therefore, I believe that AIDS education should be coupled with sex-ed.
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