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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
Apr 28, 2012


farhadmiriany wrote:


Natural?: which sex making seems to be natural? vaginal or annal??
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This question is, frankly, silly. Heteros indulge in anal sex too. Take a look at the top shelf of your newsagents if you don’t believe me. See the number of hetero magazines all specialising in anal sex between men and women.



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Heterosexual rights. Question 1: do homosexuals, either gay or lesbian, respect the equal rights of heterosexuals? For example, if a homosexual is supposed to hire an employee, does the boss prefer a heterosexual over a homosexual if the heterosexual is able to do a better job only on a small scale??
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I can only speak for myself in that regard. I can put my hand on my heart and say that I have never discriminated against a heterosexual. If I were in business, hiring an employee and a hetero applicant was better than a gay one, I would hire the hetero without hesitation. Not only is that the right thing to do, but it is good business to hire the best person for the job.



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Heterosexual rights. Question 2: in many instances men and women are resting or staying separate from the other sex. Are we sure that the rights of a heterosexual is respected while the heterosexual is sleep or helpless if a physically stronger homosexual likes to make sex while the heterosexual is not interested?
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I presume you are suggesting rape. It is possible that rape may occur. If so, then it would be as serious as heterosexual rape.

Rape is a crime, regardless of sexual orientation and offenders should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Rape is not acceptable by anybody, ever.


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
Apr 28, 2012

Jennifer,
I asked general questions with total respect to all tig friends. But you are taking it personal. This is a panel for free discussions between free people. Certainly politeness and respect will improve the quality of discussions and impoliteness and disrespect will lower it down and results may be less participation. You are free to live as you like and I definitely do not interfere to your personal life. But if you like to interfere to mine and it makes you feel better, you are welcome to do so. The purpose of such discussions is not to find a loser or a winner but may be to find solutions for happiness and prosperity.
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Jennifer,
You have truly and honestly answered my questions. I appreciate it. Let us wait for other members to express their views or answer the questions.

Afterwards I will give my comments to your answers. But please take it into serious considerations that I am not saying what is right and what is wrong besides one issue on woman circumcision which both of us are against it.

Jennifer, now I want to just express one single view about you. You are perfectly honest.
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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
Apr 28, 2012

Hi all,

Firstly, I am a male and I am attracted by another male. It doesn't make me any less manly than anyone else. I think we should separate between gender and sexual oriented.

I was totally born and raise that holding hand, kissing, having sex... between 2 men is unnatural. Time passed, now I felt those gesture as natural as one man and one woman.

Natural: using condom during sex to avoiding having a child is natural ? Destroy environment to build a city is natural ?

Why the homosexual long-term commitment could harm the reproduction? We afraid that could infect our children to be homosexual. Well, me and all of other homosexual person were born and (most of us) raised by a couple heterosexual, why ain't we infected to be heterosexual like our parents ?

Homosexual will never be able to threaten to reproduction or the social ethics.


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Apr 29, 2012


farhadmiriany wrote:

Jennifer,
You have truly and honestly answered my questions. I appreciate it. Let us wait for other members to express their views or answer the questions.

Afterwards I will give my comments to your answers. But please take it into serious considerations that I am not saying what is right and what is wrong besides one issue on woman circumcision which both of us are against it.

Jennifer, now I want to just express one single view about you. You are perfectly honest.
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Thank you for your comments Farhad. Please believe I was not taking your original message personally, and I certainly took no offence in anything you said.

I simply responded to your points as I saw them and I hope I offered something for the discussion group to ponder and respond to.

I look forward to seeing comments from other posters and will discuss the issue from that point on.

Best wishes.

This post was edited on: 2012-04-29 at 10:50 AM by: Jennifer


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NhanVo wrote:

Hi all,

Firstly, I am a male and I am attracted by another male. It doesn't make me any less manly than anyone else. I think we should separate between gender and sexual oriented.

I was totally born and raise that holding hand, kissing, having sex... between 2 men is unnatural. Time passed, now I felt those gesture as natural as one man and one woman.

Natural: using condom during sex to avoiding having a child is natural ? Destroy environment to build a city is natural ?

Why the homosexual long-term commitment could harm the reproduction? We afraid that could infect our children to be homosexual. Well, me and all of other homosexual person were born and (most of us) raised by a couple heterosexual, why ain't we infected to be heterosexual like our parents ?

Homosexual will never be able to threaten to reproduction or the social ethics.



I understand and agree your comments entirely.

Homosexuality is no threat whatsoever to any person, our social systems or the furtherance of our species.

My homosexuality is no more of a problem to other people, than is my left handedness. If right handed people can take no issue with me being left handed, then why should heterosexuals have a problem with my lesbianism..?

Homosexuals are merely different in one respect to heterosexuals. It is a difference which both can live with, without detriment to the other, if both simply agree to live and let live.

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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
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Whether you love it or not, gay people is still living on. The only thing discrimination of gay marriage could cause is to put good person into a miserable life.

Gay people will be fighting for their right of equal marriage tirelessly because it is human right and our happiness.

And someone who don't accept gay marriage will get tired and give up simply because it's none of their business.

@Jennifer: I am luckily gay and left-handed at the same life, hihi.


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NhanVo wrote:

Whether you love it or not, gay people is still living on. The only thing discrimination of gay marriage could cause is to put good person into a miserable life.

Gay people will be fighting for their right of equal marriage tirelessly because it is human right and our happiness.

And someone who don't accept gay marriage will get tired and give up simply because it's none of their business.

@Jennifer: I am luckily gay and left-handed at the same life, hihi.


Hi there, NhanVo.

Thank you for replying on this thread.

I think we all say pretty much the same thing, which is that we should all try to live together in peace and without the bitterness and hatreds that prejudice brings.

When people ask me what I think of heterosexuals, all I say is that my parents, my sisters, my colleagues, my neighbours, many of my friends and all the other people I know are heterosexual. Why should I not love them..?

If I can love people, different to me, who are so many, then how difficult is it for all the heterosexuals in the world to love gays, who are so few..?


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
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I have waited sometime to receive comments from interested members.

Answers might be logical from the views of homosexuals but it is logical to look for answers that hopefully meet the needs of human race.

Some answers such as men’s violent behavior and alcoholism do not seem to be justified reasons for women to become lesbian. We as human shall do our best for reduction and even elimination of violence and alcoholism.

Supposing all people become homosexuals or gradually the number of homosexuals exceeds that of heterosexuals, then the only possible solution to continue the existence of mankind is to do the artificial pregnancy and how many women would do that.

Then, we may come to a conclusion that homosexuality might eventually lead to lower and lower populations and even vanish the mankind from the planet resulting to destruction of human.

Some people might say that nowadays politicians are supporting the homosexual behavior. Who is sure about the honesty and intentions of politicians of the modern times when they support homosexuality unless if they are homosexual themselves because politicians do whatever possible to get votes?

May one claim that,

1- Homosexuality can destroy the human existence on the Earth?

2- Is it logical human looses itself for respecting human rights of homosexuals?

Hope to receive answers not because I claime these but for the sake of human existance.
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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
May 24, 2013


Jennifer1984 wrote:


kengee wrote:

Recently the governor of California in United state of American raised an issue about the same sex marriage in the state. The affected people took the case to court. Asking for their right to marry whom they want to get married with. This is a very big issue in our society today. God’s own plan is for man and woman to live together as husband and wife not the other way around.
Do you think the same sex marriage is right? Please I need your contribution concerning this pressing issue. Thank you.



I would challenge you, Ken, to show me where it says anywhere in the Bible, that marriage was made exclusively between men and women.

I'll save you the trouble of looking. It doesn't.

The fallacy that marriage is an institution in which only opposite genders can participate is an example of religious discrimination which has no basis whatsoever in Biblical teaching.

Same gender marriage was legalised in Britain in 2005, and although religious groups at the time said it would have a terrible effect on our society, the reverse has happened.

Hundreds of thousands of same gender marriages have taken place since December 2005 and what we have seen since then is a growing tolerance towards homosexuals, a greater understanding of homosexuality and homophobic hate crimes (attacks, discrimination, etc) vastly reduced.

Is that not a good thing..?

I repeat again. Nowhere does it say, ANYWHERE, in the Christian Bible that marriage is an estate exclusively between male and female.


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All married characters mentioned in the bible are man and woman.
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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
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Marriage is unecessary and in the uk more children are now born out of wedlock than in.
obviously the patriarchs amongst us will argue all sorts of nonsensical rubbish for marriage but remember in human terms marriage is relatively new and will surely cease to remain a bit like dinosaurs.cool


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
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There is no harm if the same sex people want to tie a knot & leads a happy life ahead. Since its their choice that to stay together & nobody should force the other for it & if at all children's are concerned then there is many options available like one can go for adoption & all.


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
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y get married at all that goes for all marriages.


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
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As an atheist it is probably easier for me to have the following argument, which is one of the basis of democracy and it remains in what seems a recurring part of history forgotten. Church was separated from the political spectrum long ago, in my country at least, to prevent "belief" from having a negative or at least censuring impact on progress and tolerance. What is civic marriage? What is to me the latter to begin with? A social behaviour. One who was built, changed over time with purposes that too changed over time with progress. I am no one, and my own beliefs explicitly minimum cultural interference, however, it still bugs me quite a lot that babies can be made outside marriage (the fact itself does not bother me, keep reading) and other supposed "issues" compromising heterosexuality but it's the same problems on a minimum %, as homosexuality itself is a minority for crying out loud and it did not suddenly happen 20 year's ago it followed us since heck primate stage, well documented by the way on witches hunts or even Greek thinkers; way long story short it shouldn't be up to intolerance to decide if it is OK or not. Law's on drinking, smoking, whether to go to war or not, and other principles that became numb on us do not generate the hate and problematic discussions that homosexuality brings today? Sensationalism if one would ask me, stop asking the wrong questions and you will find the inevitable right answers.


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
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What I am saying is about heterosexuality to be natural while homosexuality is un-natural.
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Este aporte fue editado en: 2014-12-17 at 12:13 PM by: Farhad

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