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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
September 30, 2009 - 08:16 AM

First of all there is nothing like safe anal sex, cus that practice is in no way healthy, Even if it has been practice as long as virginal sex compare the life expectancy or some involved in anal sex and those that are heterosexual on a survey of 10 person per group you find out most of them never live to see their 50th birthday. And for STD's transmission, STds are also transmitted through anal sex.
The issue is never safe sex but rather same sex marraige in any form is wrong


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
September 30, 2009 - 02:28 PM


snarteh wrote:

First of all there is nothing like safe anal sex, cus that practice is in no way healthy, Even if it has been practice as long as virginal sex compare the life expectancy or some involved in anal sex and those that are heterosexual on a survey of 10 person per group you find out most of them never live to see their 50th birthday. And for STD's transmission, STds are also transmitted through anal sex.
The issue is never safe sex but rather same sex marriage in any form is wrong

Providing you wear a condom and providing it doesn't break it will help you to have safe sex and it doesn't matter which orifice you use. Vaginal or anal penetration can transmit STD's. It doesn't shorten your life span.

For once and for all, sex is a personal affair and is no body's business but theirs.
There are too many more important issues to waste time with this. If you really need to talk about sex issues then how about talking on the issue, the disgusting, degrading and just thoroughly wrong issue of female circumcision. Young girls having their genitalia mutilated is an outrage. This is worth 11 pages of discussion.
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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
September 30, 2009 - 03:01 PM

I agree 100% with jodevizes. There are more important issues; and as far as sex is concerned, discussions on sexual equality and abolishing rape are worth at a minimum 11 pages as well.

In terms of anal intercourse, I think some people are missing the point. The point was that heterosexual couples have been engaging in anal intercourse for as long as they've been engaging in vaginal intercourse. Anal sex is not just for homosexual males. And what about homosexual women? The main point is that sex is personal, and as long as it is consensual among people of age then it shouldn't be anyone else's business.


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
October 8, 2009 - 12:01 PM

Jeez, first of all, in the United States there is a little something called SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. The Constitution specifically says that those rights not listed are still rights reserved to the people and should not be violated! When a right conflicts with another person's right or the government/state actions, then it becomes a problem. NEVER should this even be a topic of discussion! Why there is even controversy on this topic is disgusting to me. The United States history has been almost one continuous battle for different groups of people to obtain almost EXACTLY the same rights. How many battles must we fight to realize that EVERYBODY, and that means of any color, height, size, shape, sexual preference, religious establishment, education, EVERYBODY has the same rights.

If anybody wants to pull the God card, well let me say this. The most common argument regarding God and gay/lesbian marriage is God did not intend for a man to marry a man or a woman to marry a woman, and therefore it is a sin and is wrong and somehow punishable by law.

There are so many flaws in this argument, I don't even know where to begin.

First of all, the law of the United States is not supposed to establish nor support/enhance/inhibit religion. Maybe you believe it is a sin under God and therefore wrong, so then don't do it!! It is not your business to say nobody else has the right to do it; in this argument there are two stances: one saying, it's okay, everyone has their choice. And the other saying, it is not okay, you have to do what I believe and only what I believe. Oppressive? Very.

Secondly, if you do so happen to believe that it is a sin in God's eyes, the Bible itself states that EVERYBODY is a sinner. And a sin is a sin is a sin. There is no worse or better sin. You are NO BETTER than a gay man or lesbian woman. You are a sinner just as they are. AND, this all-knowing God? Did he not create these gay men and women KNOWING they would be have a different attraction? You cannot tell me he knows all if he did not know this. He also loves all of his children, regardless of their sins, which, might I add, are forgiven as long as they believe.


If this is your argument for why they should not be married, because it is a sin, then you take away everybody's right to get married, since we are all said to be sinners.

If gay men and women are going to Hell for their sexual preference, well I will be right there with them, as will all of you, because they did nothing more wrong than the rest of us.


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October 15, 2009 - 06:42 PM

As Americans, people should choose whether or not they like the same sex or not. It is up to them to decide whats right and wrong. Although we have grown up knowing its a man plus a woman, that is not true anymore. If they are in love it should be just as fair to them as it is us. We should not be able to judge, its their life and therefore up to them how they choose to live it.


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October 15, 2009 - 07:00 PM

I agree. Same sex marriage does not hurt anyone or society on the whole. The only thing that should matter when two people are joined together is whether they love each other or not.

In same sex marriages strong family ties and values are encouraged. The number of child adptions would also increase to families who will take really good care of them. If two people love each other, what's the big deal?Homosexuality is a biological occurance.


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October 21, 2009 - 10:36 AM

I believe that everyone is entitled to live their life accordingly & without justification. We indeed are aiming for a world seen through the eyes of peace and therefore shouldn't judge another just because they seem "different" to you.
Yes, procreation is a crucial component for the continuance of our people but no one should conform to what is "expected" of them. The idea is to live your life as you see fit and as for relationships, make yourself happy and ignore outside factors because at the end of the day you have each other. As a Christian, I understand that God placed us on this Earth to reproduce, but he also created us to love each other unconditionally as he does us and to search for true meaning and to reside in the arms of bliss.


BE & LET BE.


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October 24, 2009 - 07:26 AM

Whether Gays or Lesbian same sex marraige for us with religious background and the society i find myself in we distate that act and consider it a sin


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
October 24, 2009 - 09:51 AM


snarteh wrote:

Whether Gays or Lesbian same sex marraige for us with religious background and the society i find myself in we distate that act and consider it a sin


I'm with you....because one must call a spade a spade...NO compromise!


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
October 24, 2009 - 12:24 PM


snarteh wrote:

Whether Gays or Lesbian same sex marraige for us with religious background and the society i find myself in we distate that act and consider it a sin



yes, and those of you with religious background should also have been taught that everybody sins, everyday, and that no sin is better than another, and that ultimately if we believe our sins are forgiven.

therefore, their marriage is no better and no worse than anything you or i do each and everyday.

the catholic faith defines "seven deadly sins" which i would be willing to be you have experienced more than once.

for example, pride, have you never taken pride in anything you've done?? i would bet money that everyone has at least once. and the government does not make it illegal to take pride in ones work. hmm, why is this? because it is limiting the basic freedom of oneself, not to mention, in the United States there is SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. you cannot ask the government to restrict one's rights because of your faith, the government will not and cannot rule regarding to any type of religion. besides, not everybody believes the same faith. how is it right to say, "you should not be allowed to marry because of what i believe." - this is oppressive. if you do not believe it, do not engage in it yourself, but it does not hurt you, it does not pose a threat to you, therefore they should have every right to be married if they so choose.

This post was edited on: 2009-10-24 at 12:27 PM by: xmystaticheart


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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
October 24, 2009 - 02:42 PM


plato123 wrote:


snarteh wrote:

Whether Gays or Lesbian same sex marraige for us with religious background and the society i find myself in we distate that act and consider it a sin


I'm with you....because one must call a spade a spade...NO compromise!


If you really have to concern yourself with sin try to sort out the fact that the Muslims are killing christians and vice versa. That despite lots of endeavour, there is famine in the Horn of Africa again. That malaria is still killing millions of people, that millions do not have safe or running water nor do they have adequate sewage treatment. That in so many parts of the world, women do not have safe and sanitized places to give birth. That girls as young as 11 or 12 are given up for marriage. That female circumcision is still being carried out on young girls and without the proper sterilized equipment, not that it should be carried out at all as it is a barbaric practice that must be stopped.

That people are dying from hunger and disease all over our world.

These are sins of the highest order and when they are all resolved, ALL RESOLVED, then we may, and I stress may, have enough time and energy to bother about certain peoples sexual preferences.
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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
November 13, 2009 - 05:33 AM

wow, this post is styll running, geez, ummm well for the most part i agree with Jo, there are many issues of great magnitude that deserves our attention.

Your all saying that everyone sins and will be forgiven, yes, this is true. Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." also Acts 3:19 "So turn away from your sins. Turn to God. Then your sins will be wiped away. The time will come when the Lord will make everything new."

You cannot use biblical principles to legalize gay marriages. Apart of forgiveness comes from acknowledging the sin and turning away from it. Gay marriage supports it.... everyone sins, yes, but forgiveness is given to those who, to the best of there abilities, deny sin.

I don't believe it is for us though to perform any sort of persecution or judgement upon them. Those are the things that based on scriptures should never be done.
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Re: THESAME SEX MARRIAGE RIGHT OR WRONG?
November 15, 2009 - 09:24 PM

As much as we have our individual rights and freedom and also live in a society which we expect to assist us protect those rights, I must aver that this same society owe mother earth a duty to place constant check on what should be and not be done.

A world of absolute freedom to do and not do whatever we deem fit will lead us to a state of anarchy.

Every decent society ought to be and in fact should be built on high moral and ethical standard and without the law putting checks on our rights, the freedom we do so much to protect is headed for the gallows.

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