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Re: Universal Declaration of Human Rights
March 30, 2009 - 01:42 PM
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adeltaY wrote:
Any ideal can be followed imperfectly, your atheism is of course a prime example.
Very true but I'm not an atheist.
If Islam would like to prevent what they feel is defamation within their own nations, that certainly is their right. But the effort to isolate the word “defamation” as if it were to apply only to Islam is an aggressive violation of what the freedom of religion should mean. Will Islam refrain from defaming Israel and Judaism? Will they refrain from defaming India and Hinduism? Will they refrain from defaming unbeliever’s generally? Is that even a possibility? Or would they see such a refusal to defame the unbeliever as a basic assault on Islam?
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March 30, 2009 - 07:17 PM
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It is certainly against our religion to defame or say anything bad about other religions, especially Judaism and Christianity. However, just like we say you can, if some Jews go around killing our people of course we will be enraged. If the Muslims attack someone innocent then their people should be enraged. Why should we criticise the religion for the actions of its people when the religion clearly condemns the actions of its people?
If you aren't an atheist then what are you?
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Re: Universal Declaration of Human Rights
March 30, 2009 - 11:41 PM
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Is it the people?
Or simply the faith?
Why?
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Re: Universal Declaration of Human Rights
March 31, 2009 - 06:22 PM
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Again, not a single quote from any Islamic scripture that supports tyranny and hatred. That was just a site with some fool ranting on about how to justify his anti-Islamic sentiments. Its just like someone else hating how the Israelis are killing many, but how can you blame Judaism? Zionism isn't really Judaism, the original Judaism says that Israel is prohibited for the Jews.
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Re: Universal Declaration of Human Rights
April 1, 2009 - 12:48 AM
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adeltaY wrote:
Again, not a single quote from any Islamic scripture that supports tyranny and hatred. That was just a site with some fool ranting on about how to justify his anti-Islamic sentiments. Its just like someone else hating how the Israelis are killing many, but how can you blame Judaism? Zionism isn't really Judaism, the original Judaism says that Israel is prohibited for the Jews.
Your looking for quotes from the Qu'ran that say what? How Islam was spread by the sword?
Islam is a political philosophy much more than it is a transcendental religious prescription. There are many commandments to violence, submission of non-muslims, and an overall state goal to spread Islam above all other beliefs.
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Re: Universal Declaration of Human Rights
April 1, 2009 - 08:19 AM
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sorry kiddies, whilst you are bashin muslims ect, the UDHR is being buried by the UN Committee on Elimination of Racial Discrimination.
that what you expect from these imcompetent clowns.
I mean the former High Commission Louise Arbour has been branded a war criminal
read it all here
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com/
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Re: Universal Declaration of Human Rights
April 1, 2009 - 08:57 AM
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that what you expect from these incompetent clowns.
That's exactly what to expect.
I can only hope the UN goes the same route as the League of Nations.
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April 1, 2009 - 09:04 AM
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RobertAllan wrote:
that what you expect from these incompetent clowns.
That's exactly what to expect.
I can only hope the UN goes the same route as the League of Nations.
it wont because it in the interest of the US and western powers to allow countries to suppress their own people as they do in the west....
cant have cheap labour for the corporations if you have true democracies everywhere.
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April 1, 2009 - 11:52 AM
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it wont because it in the interest of the US and western powers to allow countries to suppress their own people as they do in the west....
cant have cheap labour for the corporations if you have true democracies everywhere.
What are you rambling on about?
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April 1, 2009 - 06:05 PM
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RobertAllan wrote:
What are you rambling on about?
LOL, just about sums you up, matey ! Clueless, am afraid
stop picking on the muslim kids with your racist BS....
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April 1, 2009 - 06:57 PM
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Thanks expat. *
@ Robert, the Quran was not written by any human, even that Evangelical Reverand Swaggart said it has no literary equal. It was a revelation from Allah (SWT) to Muhammad (S).
Allah iln anak Robert.
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April 2, 2009 - 12:21 AM
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LOL, just about sums you up, matey ! Clueless, am afraid
stop picking on the muslim kids with your racist BS....
Is that your best attempt at an insult?
A supporter of rape just had the gull to to call me clueless.
Your priceless.
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Re: Universal Declaration of Human Rights
April 2, 2009 - 01:34 AM
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why is a discussion on religion in a Universal Declaration on Human Rights thread?
As a catholic we are taught "judge not lest we be judged"
there s a argument that christianity is started by cannibal cult who ate people 
there is a lot of blood on christianity's hands
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April 2, 2009 - 09:08 AM
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why is a discussion on religion in a Universal Declaration on Human Rights thread?
There intertwined and it's the direction the conversation has taken.
As a catholic we are taught "judge not lest we be judged
That's a very good quote -thanks for sharing.
there s a argument that christianity is started by cannibal cult who ate people
I'd like to see that and even if it were true Christianity has certainly progressed over the yrs. Unlike the current head chopping of Islam
there is a lot of blood on christianity's hands
Very true there has been.Christianity has certainly progressed over the yrs. Unlike the current head chopping of Islam
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April 2, 2009 - 08:19 PM
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Prophet Muhammed (S) committed genocide? Please at least give a place and time for your propaganda. *
Oh, and point out those "errors" in the Quran too while you are at it.
So how has Christianity progressed? Accepting adultery and fornication is a sign of progression?
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