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Kizito C. Obilom
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
July 17, 2008 - 05:53 AM
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It is so hard to imagine the motives behind such needless killings
they are humans but the cause should be in the instability in that region
they are HUMANS!!!!
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
July 17, 2008 - 05:55 AM
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Palastenians and IraQi's think they can take thier independence this way ! they can re establish a government that is fully independent, and can have a country where they can live the way they want to live ! (democratic gov)
People of Afghanistan are not willing ly fighting against each other and international community others are commpelling them to fight , agencies of defferent countries are active here working for thier own benefits. they use simple and naive afghans in one or other way.
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
July 17, 2008 - 06:58 AM
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Plestine < IRaq < Afghanistan these three are warzone's where Amiricans and westeners can practice there weapons , Afghanistan will soon come out of this setuation and killing will stop there !
while the other two will be fighting till the day all Arab country Break alliense with US....
or US stop supporting Israel
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
July 17, 2008 - 07:34 AM
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why isen't any body saying anything about those who were fighting in World Wars! were'nt they mad ?
The matter of the fact is that every body is ready to sacrifice for some thing
in world war two japanese pilots use to do suicide's to defend thier country ,soldiers even knowing that the mission was like killing them selves took part in it so were they mad and senseless ? no they fought for a cause
same is Iraqi's doing , fighting....because they think this is thier duty to fight against those who attack thier home land and the right to deffend thier free will !!!
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
July 18, 2008 - 05:03 PM
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My Afgan Friend,
I don't dispute what you said concerning the US but ,i still will not agree with you that the US came to cause problems between you and your brothers. Before they invaded IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN,there has been series of suicide bombings amongst you people.Suicide bombing made the US to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.I know u remember September 11 2001, when your brothers went to bomb the prestigious world trade center in US and there military base. But that's the past, Even if you accuse the US of causing problems between the Iraqis and Afghans ,would you kill your brother because a stranger wanted you to do so?
I need you to answer my question please. May be after math i'll be convinced that you guys are doing the right thing.
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
July 22, 2008 - 05:35 PM
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The Saudis, the majority of them being Sunnis, have a clear interest in bringing about change as to who is ruling Iraq: the Sunnis or the Shiites.
One thing is for sure - if we're ever going to understand these people's behavior we need to understand what they feel. EMPATHY is the key word here.
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
August 1, 2008 - 07:30 AM
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I've worked as a peacemaker in inter-faith dialogues before. I suspect what's hapenning in Islam is much the same as what has been going on n Christianity for some centuries already. It used to be that Christians killed Muslims and based their behaviors on their book. The Muslims have been doing the same for a while now. What is interesting though is that Muhammad's life was generally directed toward peacemaking and unification. His followers got it wrong when they started declaring wars on countries outside of Arabia after Muhammad died. More Muslims are becoming literate now, and they are realizing, like the Christians did, that violence isn't what their prophet meant for them. The problem of violence among Muslims isn't Islam, it's illiteracy.
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
August 7, 2008 - 02:20 AM
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Where are we making Wars ?
is self defense war ? Palastine ! every body knows what is happening there and who is doing it and why ?
simillar is Iraq , US went there to Prevent Sadam from making Nuclear bombs ... what evedence did they found about their intentions , they caused killing of 7 lack People in iRAq ..WHAT FOR ? they killed people because these people like to raise war against cristians ? or they like killings and bloodshed ?
the innocent children that die do they know how to kiill and whome to kiill ??
War is not always due to illeteracy some times it is meant for Freedom , sometimes for justice ...
YOu people don't seem to understand the difference ...
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
August 11, 2008 - 07:05 AM
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Cheybuz
I think you need to look home before you look abroad, with the contenious violence in the Delta(oil) region of Nigeria what is that killing all about and the various kidnapping I do not believe Nigeria is under occupation unless you count the countless crooked Governors as occupiers which are bank rolled by the large oil corporations?
How about the various clans within Nigeria that have various 12th century style ethics and traditions please can you tell me more about who these people are?
With regards to your question RESISTANCE is a legitimate form of fighting occupation as stipulated by the United (states) Nations however terrorism is yet to be interpreted by the same body why?
Sorry a good example of Resistance is Lebanon not only have they managed to take out Israel out of most of thier land but now they have created a new balance of power that would make any one seeking to occupy or start a conflict with Lebanon think twice is that a bad thing I think not.
Now if the Palestinians want to take any action against any Isreally so be it as it is a legitimate form of fighting occupation and please contrary to popular belief there is no such a thing as a civillian Israel for they are all armed and are all enrolled in the armed forces every woman and Man from the age of 18 must be enroled for 3 years national service and subsequently be given arms and be ready to be called upon as a reservised in any conflict regardless of were in the world they maybe.
Also if killing over displacing over 9 million people and contenious large scale collective punishment of an entire people and nation not Modern day Nazism then I do not know what is.
The question you need to be asking your self is why would drive a man to the brink that he or she snaps and decides to become a martyr for something they believe in sorry being Muslim has nothing to do with it so take that crap out of your head because the last time I checked the Tamil Tigers are not Muslims nor are the Budhist monks ?
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
August 20, 2008 - 03:04 PM
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Am so amazed ,to read thru your threads and am not yet convinced . Because the last two respondents do not understand what the question is all about.
May be i have to assist you the more by analyzing this issue on ground.
Am not saying this just to make fun of Muslims ok but for them to explain to the entire world why they would kill there own brother for a stranger.
I mean you complain a lot about the USA but the USA cant lead you to the extent of killing your own brother ok.
Relating this issue to Israel , i believe you guys are given it a wrong perception .I never asked why the palestines are fighting the Israelis ok
This issue is your issue not Israel ,what i mean by ur issue is because of Terrorism and also Suicide bombing going on in ur midst .
For my friend who is saying i should look back home first b4 looking outside .I know you are right but if you look very well in Nigeria ,You'll noticed that most Nigerians are reluctant on this issue.
Its only the federal government that is having problems with the Niger delta's in Nigeria. THEY SHOULD GIVE THEM WHAT RIGHTLY BELONGS TO THEM. THE OIL BELONGS TO THEM IN THE REGION OR IF THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO EXPLOIT THE OIL THEY SHOULD PAY COMPENSATION FOR THE FARM LANDS AND RIVERS, WHERE THE NIGER DELTAS ARE DERIVING THERE DAILY BREAD FROM ,TO THE PEOPLE OF THE NIGER DELTA.
If some 1 damages you property wont the person pay for the damages?
So leave the Niger delta's and our government to settle them selves or else they will keep fighting for there rights.
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
August 20, 2008 - 06:51 PM
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Firstly one must always practice what one preaches, if you want us the readers to leave the problems of the Niger Delta region for its people and goverments to settle then one would expect you to do the same about other regions of the world.
If as you say the folks of the Delta region have the right to get what belongs to them in the way they have been doing so, then one must say your a complete hypocrit and unaware of the MENA.
For as it was the Israellies that have expelled over 2 million Palestinians from thier Land invaded and occupied and killed people from Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt all with US Help and money and in direct contradiction to over 1200 UN Resolutions ask the UN for a list they will send you one.
You would be suprised what the USA can acheive with the use of a hand full of corrupt folks people in Nigeria know all about corruption, all it takes is one poor idiot to be bribed and gifted to do one attack which leads to reprisal and then another attack and then another and so on, there is documented evidence of such action by the USA not only in the Middle East but also in South America, may I draw your attention to a book called the confessions of an economic hit man please read it and get enlightened.
You must understand the political economical and demographical situation of the folks you highlighted and be aware of these issues before you come on here and try and defamate an entire nation or people based on the action of a few, I am not offended at you defamating Islam am more offended at your lack of knowledge or understanding of a situation and a struggle that has lasted over 60 years now.
Just to point you out to History the First ever recorded suicide attack in History was by a captain of a Christian Crusader ship back in the 1100s when he ordered his men to turn thier ship and collide with Muslim ship so as to drawn that ship during a battle.
The first Modern or post second world war suicide attacker was by an Israelly right wing ultra religeous sect that blow up the HQ of the British mandate inside the St George Hotel.
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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
August 20, 2008 - 07:04 PM
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A quick follow on since am only allowed 400 words, It offends me also no ends to justify the invation of 2 sovereign states based on the so called action of a few.
Secondly calling the those of September 11 my brothers because they happen to practice the same religion is absurd does that mean slovodan melochovic was also your Christian brother when he massacared the ethnic muslim population in the name of the cross?
Thirdly whilst we are on the subject of 9/11 am not one for conspiracy theories but when an FBI agent starts poiting out certain things and someone like my self who is in the Aviation Industry see what happened at the pentagon I can only see foul play but not by so called muslim terrorists but by a larger conglomarate that used the Islamic religion as an excuse to invade nations for oil.
Truthfully how many people can really say they have ever heard of Al quida and why is it that the USA didnt find any WMDs in Iraq???
Why is it that the USA didnt invade Ireland when the IRA was bombing London and NI in the name of libaration and religion am not sure if you know about the Orange men?
Also maybe you can help me out here you talk about some suicide bomings inside Afghanistan and Iraq before the invasion by the USA, can you direct me to them please for Ive not heard of such attacks, prior to the invasions so I would ask that you direct us all to these attacks please.
Am not sure what hiden agenda or indirect or direct defamation your trying to conjur up but if you carry on this path your only proving how ignorant to the situation you are and your lack of knowledge on all levels.
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