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PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
April 1, 2008 - 04:20 PM

If you are a native of these three countries ,don't get offended with this question, Feel free to express your self to the outside world.So that we can help.
At least we still have caring people allover.

KILLING is like nothing to them ,WAR is like honey to them, FIGHTING is like daily meal.
Can some body tell me who these people are?

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April 1, 2008 - 04:31 PM

If 10's of years of occupation, oppression and deportation do not tell you who they are then maybe you should ask their occupiers and they will help you get an answer.

No offense taken


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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
April 2, 2008 - 04:45 PM

They are all human beings..just like you and I..shocked


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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
April 6, 2008 - 03:34 PM

I know they are all humans but what instinct do they have? .
Why do they kill them selves for nothing? .If they are fighting other countries it would be better described as a war. But what they are doing is mere killings of innocent people.
So am still asking who exactly they are?


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April 6, 2008 - 04:43 PM


chybuz wrote:

I know they are all humans but what instinct do they have? .
Why do they kill them selves for nothing? .If they are fighting other countries it would be better described as a war. But what they are doing is mere killings of innocent people.
So am still asking who exactly they are?



Tough question mate.

In my opinion they are people who think that violence will solve their problems as result of deep irrational hatreds, and they believe this because this is the atmosphere and ideology they have been brought up in, both in their culture and their religion.

Not all Palestinians, Iraqis and Afghans are like this of course, but a lot are. And this is what is so dreadful about the situation, since they will pass this on to their children and the perpetual cycle of violence will continue.


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April 6, 2008 - 06:28 PM


chybuz wrote:

I know they are all humans but what instinct do they have? .
Why do they kill them selves for nothing? .If they are fighting other countries it would be better described as a war. But what they are doing is mere killings of innocent people.
So am still asking who exactly they are?


They´re all good reasons not to be religious for starters.

The Palestinians are mad because the Jews are on their land and the U.S. helps support them. Being shot at by guns stamped made in the USA has not increased U.S. popularity.

The Iraqi Shiites are mad mostly because the U.S. is on their land and if they ran the country it would be all their oil revenues. The Iraqi Sunnis are mad because the Shiites are in the majority and they have an intense ethnic rivalry going. If democracy happens they wind up under the thumb of the Shiites by popular vote.

We also gave Saddam nerve gas which he used to kill thousands of Kurds, and so all three ethnic groups are a bit wary of the U.S.

The Afghanis are mad at us because we´re on their land too, and Osama is mad at us because of religion. Some of Osama´s enemies in Afghanistan are still mad at the U.S. because we gave Osama guns to fight the Soviets. The only group that owes us any favors is the Afghani drug lords, because the U.S. has allowed them to start farming poppies again and the Taliban had banned it.


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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
April 7, 2008 - 08:54 AM

Well, It is amazing that you dont know about these people !
These are the Countries which play the role of a BattleField! The Main cause of the War is not Known to anyone but of which we are aware are For Iraq : "The Black Water (OIL)",for Afghanistan: "The Great Game" and for Palestine : "Favouring Israel to Capture Lands from those who Happily accepted Israelies to come and stay with them in thier lands"

And Thier is no Solution for this WAR cause the US is playing the "Role of an Enemy and a Friend Both"


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April 7, 2008 - 03:44 PM


chybuz wrote:

I know they are all humans but what instinct do they have? .
Why do they kill them selves for nothing? .If they are fighting other countries it would be better described as a war. But what they are doing is mere killings of innocent people.
So am still asking who exactly they are?


Let me ask you a question...

Suppose a gangster evicts you from your home and threatens to kill all of your family if you try to go back and show any type of resistance, would it be justified to call you a person of "a killing instinct" if you show that resistance?.


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April 12, 2008 - 03:17 PM



Let me ask you a question...

Suppose a gangster evicts you from your home and threatens to kill all of your family if you try to go back and show any type of resistance, would it be justified to call you a person of "a killing instinct" if you show that resistance?.


But i don't think thats the best way to resolve a problem except you don't have a government that has the interest of you and your family at heart.
What i really mean is that you dont use violence to settle issues. There are room for dialogs .
But i could remember when the Israelites left Gaza for the palestines yet they still went ahead to bomb Israel after some days of dialog between their governments.

So i don't think encroachment is the best way to describe the war between Israelis and Palestines
I dont think am satisfied with the answers got so Am still asking Who the Palestine , Iraqis and Afghans are ???? .


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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
June 12, 2008 - 02:27 PM

THEY KILL THEM SELVES ,KILL THERE BROTHERS ,KILL THERE SISTERS ,KILL THERE FATHERS ,KILL THERE CHILDREN ALL BECAUSE THEY WANT TO STOP USA FROM ASSISTING THEM.

WHAT WOULD YOU CLASSIFY THEM AS.
1 TERRORIST
2 MUDRERS
3 ISLAMIST
4 ALL OF THE ABOVE


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June 18, 2008 - 06:39 AM

Chybuz,

ever heard of the Stern Gang, the Haganah, the Irgun-Zvai, and the Kakh militias?

Ever heard of Yitzhak Shamir?

Ever heard of the KKK, or Timothy McVeigh?

Ever heard of the Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda, the Bosnian Serb Army, ETA, or the IRA?

Ever heard of the Maoist militias of Nepal, the Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka, the Contras of Nicaragua, and Zapatistas of Mexico, or the FARC of Colombia?

Ever heard of UNITA movement in Angloa, the Rwandan Genocide, the RUF in Sierra Leone, and the Aparthied of South Africa?

Ever thought about the CIA torturing manuals handed to Augusto Pinochet of Chile, Muhammad Reza Pahlavi of Iran, Hassan II of Morocco, and other dictators of Brazil, Uruguay, and central America?

Ever heard of the School of Assassins, or the Haavara Agreement, or the treaty of Sykes-Picot?

Ever heard of the fate of Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki in 1944-1945, or of the Japanese-American community?

Ever questioned yourself about where do people figthing in Ethiopia, Somalia, the Philippines, Thailand, Afghanistan, Mozambique, Côte d'Ivoire, Rwanda, Angola, Congo, Burundi, and other third-world countries get their weapons from? (Hint: Maybe Jean-Cristophe Mitterrand?)

Ever heard of the number of victims asscoaited with the above topics?

What do you call those people invloved in everything in these questions above?

Are they also "Islamist"?


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June 20, 2008 - 02:12 PM

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they might be or maybe not ,but these people you mentioned are they still fighting ?


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June 22, 2008 - 04:05 AM

they might be or maybe not ,but these people you mentioned are they still fighting ?

Well, take Iraq as an example...

After the US invasion of 2003, 4.5 million Iraqis became refugees in Jordan, Syria, and other Arab countries, while most of them are widows. Those people are still de facto refugees. Before the invasion, they were not, added to the fact that a considerable portion of those widows were compelled to work as prostitutes to feed their hopeless children, needless to mention that at least, 1.5 million Iraqis died in 5 years, from 2003 to 2008. Estimates of people being killed in Iraq by Saddam's regime from 1979 to 2003 are slightly less than the previous figure.

Take Algeria as an example too, knowing that about 120,000 Algerians were killed in the civil war that sparked in 1991; Algeria is famously called "The Country of the Million Martyrs" in the Arab World, in commemmoration of the 1 million Algerians killed in the French mission civilatrice to smash the Algerian War of independence. My point is, even if France is not still fighting in Algeria, the one million people its troops had killed can tell enough about the nature of the alleged mission civilatrice or "civilizing mission", probably inspired by Rudyard Kupling.


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June 22, 2008 - 11:20 AM

The last time I checked Iraq Body Count, the figure was at about 93, 000 deaths as a result of US action.

But I have to agree with chybuz, the vast majority of deaths in Iraq have come at the hands of other Muslims, whether you call them Islamists, extremists, terrorists, or insurgents.

It is well known too that most of the suicide bombers that have killed thousands of Iraqis have been Saudis.

Why they come to Iraq to kill fellow Muslims is beyond me or anyone else with a rational mind.


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Re: PALESTINIANS,IRAQIS AND AFGHANS, WHO ARE THEY?
July 1, 2008 - 02:35 PM

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Thank you very much for understanding me Stevew.
The fact still remain that the suicide bombers are killing there brothers.

I still dont understand who they are ,i believe a muslim brother with sincerity would put me thru someday.


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