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Abortion
March 8, 2008 - 07:40 PM
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On this 35th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision, I would like to share my views on the issue of abortion.
Life begins at the point of conception. No one can deny that after a human being is conceived it will develop into the very same being as those debating this issue. What astounds me is that those who favor abortion went through an identical development stage as the being they are condemning to death. Would these very same people agree that a similiar choice should have been made about their own existence? Abortion today is used primarily as a birth control of convenience because people are too self-centered to take precautions. They prefer their own pleasurable self-indulgence over the care and sanctity of the life they created. What ever happened to taking responsibility for one's actions in this country? Is it too much to ask a woman who has conceived to place the child into adoption? Nine months of discomfort is nothing compared to life in prison for voluntary manslaughter! Does the father of the child have a say in this? And what about the constitution of the United States? Are not all people conceived in this country deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I believe abortion is a crime against humanity and should be outlawed. We need to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision and get back to cherishing life in this country. For a country that murders it's children cannot be far from self destruction.
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Re: Abortion
March 9, 2008 - 11:39 AM
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This thread is being moved to the Health and Wellness board where it belongs..
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Re: Abortion
March 11, 2008 - 10:12 PM
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JOEBIALEK wrote:
Life begins at the point of conception. No one can deny that after a human being is conceived it will develop into the very same being as those debating this issue.Yes, I can deny it. Spontaneous miscarriage frequently happens. It happened to my sister.
Abortion today is used primarily as a birth control of convenience because people are too self-centered to take precautions.Is this based on your personal experience? Why would someone pay $500 (USA) for an abortion when they can pay $7.99 for 10 condoms? Abortions are obviously a last resort.
They prefer their own pleasurable self-indulgence over the care and sanctity of the life they created. What ever happened to taking responsibility for one's actions in this country?Allright, I detect a Catholic here. Have you ever sinned? For you, a trip to the confessional and a few Hail Mary's will recharge your sinning batteries. If the Pope were in charge of America, a woman who got an unwanted pregnancy would have to bring an unwanted child into the world, or risk her life with an illegal abortionist. Women who make the decision to have, or not to have, an abortion have weighed the pros and cons and are acting responsibly. They don't need people like you screaming "You're killing your baby!" as they enter the abortion clinic.
What about the constitution of the United States? Are not all people conceived in this country deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I believe abortion is a crime against humanity and should be outlawed. We need to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision and get back to cherishing life in this country. For a country that murders it's children cannot be far from self destruction.You are quoting the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. You seem to have the inability to distinguish an adult woman from what looks like a bit of raspberry jam in a petrie dish. Maybe you need glasses. We need to defend Roe vs. Wade, for a country that murders its women cannot be far from self-destruction.
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Re: Abortion
March 25, 2008 - 09:34 AM
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I am in support of the fact that life begins at conception and so do not support abortion. it is musder to abort a chiild especially when it is not done ot save the life of the mother.We must kick agianst murder in disguise-abortion
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Re: Abortion
March 26, 2008 - 01:51 AM
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iam also against abortion.life as it is being sauiid begins at conception thoough someone talked about miscarriages.true these do happen but its a natural process-the body will reject the foetus for natural reasons not some selfish reason why cant we give these children a chance to live and be somebody.why not give the child up for adoption if one values their carreer etc so much that they can not sacrfice for the baby?imagine it was you who was arborted? how do you feel?aint you glad that your parents gave you a chance to be somebody?
it inhuman to play God and decide the fate of someone's life by murdering them just that.
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Re: Abortion
March 26, 2008 - 06:46 AM
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Hi all,
I always say that it is not right to pass judgement on others untill you have lived their lives. Having said all that, does not mean that I agree or disagree with having an abortion. There are various reasons why people do it. if they feel they are doing it for the right reasons, who are we to say their reasons are wrong, who died and made us judge, jury or executioner.
I say before we stand in judgement against those who have abortions, lets take a very good look at ourselves and maybe we`ll see that we not so perfect after all.
If we say those who have abortions are wrong. then maybe, just maybe it is their right to be wrong. No one has the right to play GOD.
Webster.**
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Re: Abortion
March 28, 2008 - 04:08 PM
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I think abortions is a topic which is controvesal in the world today, life begins at conception as we all do know but again there are other factors added to that. In all my opinion concerning abortion is that is should not be encouraged because it is actuallyb killing.
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Re: Abortion
March 31, 2008 - 11:57 PM
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i once saw a bumper sticker that said "if it's not a baby, then you're not pregnant." i agree.
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Re: Abortion
April 1, 2008 - 11:55 AM
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I think that life doesn't start in the moment of conception, but in the time umbilical cord is cut and the baby stats breathing.
Before that moment the foetus is nothing but a woman's anatomic part. It's a part of woman's body, like an arm, a leg or a foot.
So it's in her power to do with it what she wants.
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Re: Abortion
April 2, 2008 - 06:10 PM
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why then if someone causes a woman harm that kills her baby are they sometimes charged with manslaughter? if an unborn baby is part of a woman's body, then wouldn't it just be assault? and if it's a baby when it's inside a woman who wants to keep it, how can it be anything else just because a woman doesn't want to keep it?
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Re: Abortion
April 4, 2008 - 08:37 PM
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The disconnect in this debate is a definition. We need to define what makes a human human.
Being the hard-nosed atheist I am, I think a human is the sum of their experiences as imprinted in a fascinating network-based computer called the human brain, As such, being human begins when the baby first sees the outside world and begins accumulating experiences in that brain.
Most religious people define a human as a being whose brain is some sort of transciever for a soul. Why they think it shows up at conception and not at some other point like the first breath or the first heartbeat or the moment the woman's water breaks mystifies me. Why not some purely biological time like implantation in the uterine wall or the formation of the ectoderm? I happen to like the ectodermal separation idea. It fits with the whole idea that the brain is merely the anchor point for the soul, so logically the beginnings of a distinct nervous system is a good point for the soul to show up if one believes this sort of thing.
I believe picking conception is dictated by squeamishness, and the Pope.
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Re: Abortion
April 17, 2008 - 03:54 AM
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my friends its true that no bad can deny that the life of a person begin soon after conception.so by making abortion this is the same with manslaughter.
i advice people especially young people atleast to use condoms so that to avoid abortion which i see to me is a criminal offence.
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Re: Abortion
April 17, 2008 - 09:26 PM
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tz wrote:
my friends its true that no bad can deny that the life of a person begin soon after conception.so by making abortion this is the same with manslaughter.
i advice people especially young people atleast to use condoms so that to avoid abortion which i see to me is a criminal offence.
You seriously think something that is so microscopic like an embryo should enjoy equal rights to an adult woman? No, an adult woman is competent to decide for herself and her future children when to have a baby and when not. Of course, contraception like condoms is cheaper than an abortion and is preferable. But a woman must have the right to end her pregancy if she wants. It is her body.
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Re: Abortion
May 20, 2008 - 10:49 PM
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A few points
1) as it has been mentioned, its very easy to pass judgement on something you've never experience. It gets a little tricker when its you making the decision for yourself.
JOEBIALEK wrote:
Nine months of discomfort is nothing compared to life in prison for voluntary manslaughter! .
2)Um... nine months of discomfort? That's a bit of an understatement. What if you are a teenager in school? You were responsible, but you ended up preganant? What if you were raped? If you don't have acess to resources to give the baby up for adoption, you'd be giving up your whole life. Many teenage mothers to this, but some are just not ready.
3)Do you think its right to bring a child into a world with a mother who might not be the best parent? I mean, according to some people's philosiphy, if a girl gets pregnant accidentally she's obviously very irresponsible, and yet they still say that that irresponsible woman should raise a child.
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Re: Abortion
May 30, 2008 - 01:30 PM
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Abortion is a crime against a human being. Though, it is been proposed by a set of self centered people,it is still a crime.
please, This trend of suggedting the legalization of weird issues should be stopped.
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