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Terrance Hunter
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
March 23, 2004 - 05:36 AM
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This is a great conversation. I'm doing my Senior paper over Zoo and if they're good or bad. Would anyone of you happen to have any links to websites that would help me with my paper. Thanks!
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
May 18, 2004 - 05:07 AM
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How about we lock YOU in your room and just push food in through the cat flap every few hours? just for good measure, if you have one, we'll take your computer and TV too.
I think some zoos are alright, like ones that only take animals that couldn't be returned to the wild because they're injured or something.
Either way there should be a fine for harassing the animals, and don't try to tell me it doesn't happen. At our local zoo there are TRAILS worn away from where the wolves pace when theyre nervous. And a few days ago my friend saw people throwing food to the alaskan brown bears; did I mention it was right in front of the DO NOT FEED THE BEARS sign?
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
September 17, 2004 - 07:53 AM
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This last labor day weekend I went with my family to the Sacramento Zoo. It was supposed to be a fun day but it was horrible. I had only been to the San Francisco Zoo before and that one was amazing, so I was really surprized. There wasn't a single animal there that looked content. None of the animals' habitats were big enough and they didn't resemble their natural environment whatsoever. There was a monkey alone in a concrete cage with no plants, not even a dirt floor. There were a few ropes hanging and he was sitting on one of them, clinging onto the fence staring at us with its sad eyes. The reptiles were all living in tiny computer-sized aquariums. I left the zoo feeling extremely depressed and disappointed.
I want to be either a zooligist or a veteranarian, specializing in tigers. But there is no way I would ever work for a zoo like the one I just described. I'm going to work somewhere that the animals have plenty of room, a habitat that closely matches their natural environment, and people that work hard to keep the animals happy and healthy. Hopefully the San Diego Zoo. They're supposedly one of the best in the world. I have been to the website and seen pictures of the habitats and they are gorgeous. I saw the map and it's huge. The habitats are undoubtedly big enough for happy animals.
I'm completely against taking animals from the wild and puting them in captivity, unless they were injured and are unable to be released back into their natural environment. I'm also against puting them in the wild if they grew up depending on humans.
Zoos can be a great thing, if they are sufficiently funded and have a good staff. But there are too many zoos. Places like the Sacramento Zoo prove it. There is simply not enough funding to have so many zoos and keep the animals happy at the same time. There should be more natural reserves to protect the animals from harm, and then they can roam around freely in their natural habitat.
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Brian
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
September 17, 2004 - 12:33 PM
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SS that breaks my heart to hear about that poor listless monkey caged up. I have a stuffed (well, it belongs to my fiancee) Orangatan sitting in a rocking chair that smiles at me in my "computer room" at home. Don't know about having a live one though. Check out this article I read the other day:
http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-77646sy0sep12,0,5929967.story?coll=dp-headlines-topnews
Honestly I laughed as my fiancee read this out loud to me, but I am also saddened by it. I would love to see the San Diego Zoo. We lived there when I was a toddler and my mom tells me it's great.
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
September 18, 2004 - 06:19 AM
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That's horrible. I can't believe they actually have a jail for monkeys. They should just put them back where they came from, or in a natural reserve or something. I hate how so many people think that we are better than other animals and we have the right to do whatever we want to them. Instead of fixing the situation they just make those poor monkeys miserable. I hate those stupid people. I hope the monkeys strangle them and poke out their eyes. Not really, but they would deserve it.
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SLOVENC
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
September 18, 2004 - 06:35 AM
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yeah the size of the habitats for the animals is very important! happily i can say that Ljubljana ZOO has big habitats for almost all of the animals! i would give all the birds bigger habitats, cos except for 3 sorts of birds which have hugeeeeeee habitats all the otheres are in smaller ones!
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zoos good or bad?
September 21, 2004 - 09:01 AM
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I feel without zoos we would not have the chance to see certain animals alive as some are so quickly going into extinction, zoos are very educational and they allow you to understand animals more. I agree some zoos have appalling conditions but they are improving maaybe these people who disagree should go to one i recently worked in a zoo and they treat the animals extremely well and are in very good conditions the surroundings are very natural looking and the animals seem to be very happy!
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
December 5, 2004 - 05:56 AM
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Well, I think that zoos aren't all that good but it's our own fault because we're the ones getting rid of animals' enviroments...
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
December 5, 2004 - 08:21 AM
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Would we humans like to be caged up for animals to be exhibition objects ?
If we don’t, why do we expect it from animals, just because he so called superiority?
Only when we put our selves in the shoes of the victim can we understand the true suffering!
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
December 8, 2004 - 07:26 AM
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So what are we going to do about it? Sit here debating? Release animals back into the wild to be shot at by poachers? We've got to clean up that before we can put animals back into their 'natural environment' which is often decimated anyway by us. You can rant about the morality of zoos all you like but until we have a better place to put animals, that's where they'll be staying. It's all our fault anyway that we have animals in zoos and frankly, I don't know exactly what I can do about it. Say the earth was destroyed by the large amount of atomic bombs the US have. What would happen to us? Would you rather die or be kept alive in a smaller space than accustomed to? That's the choice, really. Because of all the illegal hunting that goes on, even in reserves and things, non-human animals don't always even have a chance. Sad, isn't it? Look at us humans. We're the dominant species yet we embody so many of the characteristics we loathe. We're hypocritical, have double standards, are arrogant...yep, we're a disgrace to the word animal. Nearly all of us, anyway. I know there's people out there who try and make amends for the rest of us, but it's a bit of a losing battle because of our natures. Unlimited wants, limited means. Kind of like economics. You see, to get anywhere we have to have a major shift in behaviour which just isn't happening.  udara2004, I wouldn't like to be an exhibition object either. But what I'm saying is that zoos are here to stay unless we can change ourselves and our disdainful attitude towards the rest of the animal kingdom.
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David Martin
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Zoos are Critical for Conservation to Work
December 21, 2004 - 12:14 PM
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Yes to the Zoo. Why? Because they are critical for conservation effort for the worlds severely threatened and endangered species, both plant and animal.
I think the greatest argument made on this thread is that the animals are confined and not in their natural habitat setting. Point taken. The ultimate goal of conservation efforts is for animals to live in their natural habitats without the threat of extinction. However, for many of these species zoos are the best option. For instance, the great apes. I would much rather see gorillas, chimps, and orangutans in zoos that be hunted for meat. I would rather see cheetahs in zoos where geneticists can work on husbandry procedures to maximize the genetic diversity of these cats. FYI- big cat experts have hypothesized that the remaining cheetahs in the world both wild and captive or so genetically similar that a patch of skin from any cheetah in the world could be transferred to any other cheetah in the world and it would not be rejected by the host cheetah. In a healthy population the foreign patch would be rejected 9 times out of 10.
As a U.S. citizen I have not had the luxury to visit zoos in other countries, however zoos such as the Omaha Henry Doorly Zoo, Sea World (San Antonio), etc. are class acts with state of the art facilitie, in which the animals on site probably live healthier lives than they would otherwise. I am aware that there are issues with animal exhibits (notice I am not classifying these as a zoo) in developing nations in Asia and Africa, however, the overall importance of zoos should not be discounted.
Visit the American Zoo and Aquarium Associations website at http://www.aza.org for more information. For specifics on Conservation, Species Survival Plans, Population Management Plans, Scientific Advisory Groups and more, visit http://www.aza.org/ConScience/. This site has in depth description of their plans and other facts sheets most are available in PDF format.
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henry wang
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
March 15, 2005 - 02:11 AM
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Well, i for one desbise the idea of putting animals in zoos. And letting people view and mock and laugh at them. No animal wants to be trapped in a cage with people viewing them. We humans should be the ones in cages. We have done too much harm to our planet.
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Luke Lieberman
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
March 15, 2005 - 04:17 AM
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My family is freinds with Jack Hanna - who owns a zoo in Cleveland -
I understand that it can appear as though the animals are prisoners - by generally what you will find is that Zoo keepers care ALOT about their animals -
alot of times research is being done in Zoos to figure out what specifically is causing endangered species to depopulate and how best to relaunch them into the Wild.
I know Jack is concerned with Silverback Gurrilas - he has a few - trying to increase his population and then wants to transplant them back into the Jungle.
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Piraveenan Balakrishnan
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March 15, 2005 - 09:43 AM
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I think its bad idea to keep some animals that do not like or do fit to live in a exhibit, For example the Great white shark cannot be captured and put into exhibits. The shark does like being surouned. Also we wont know when the animal is hungry. If it does get hungry it might it's own kind since their canibals.
You can't contoll what this animal does so it's a bad idea to put some animals in zoos.
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Danny Sweeney
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Re: Zoos: Are They Good or Bad?
March 16, 2005 - 04:12 AM
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I'm with luke on this one
I know people who work in zoos are very attached to their animals and care for them the same way i care for my pets cats - but i don't hear anyone saying i shouldn't keep them.
Zoos may not be desirable - but whats the other option - letting hunters and poachers wipe out entire species?
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