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SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
February 14, 2008 - 08:26 AM
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There is another very difficult ethical consideration one will wrestle with. That is the question of self deliverance. A few year ago a friend of mine, a godly man who had responded with courage and acceptance to the burden of Cancer for many months, was in the hospital, weak and dying.His doctor had told him and his wife that he could not live longer than a week or two. One sunday night, after a beautiful final visit from his wife alone ,after her departure my friend pulled the needle that was sustaining his life from his arm, shut off the valve, rolled up the tube and went to sleep.The next day he died. Did he take his life own life? ask Bayly. No, i belive not, what he did was merely to remove the means by which the doctor could delay his death for a days, prolonging the suffering of his wife, delaying his soul's flight to God.
Each of these difficult ethical decisions can be seen from different faith perspectives, and self deliverance is no exception. There are those who would say that self deliverance is not acceptable for a person of faith. And there are those of equally sound faith who would say that it is acceptable that death is simply a part of life. What is your view>
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Re: SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
February 14, 2008 - 09:02 AM
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I totally agree with you. if i were the man i would have done the same. there is a limit to which everybody should endure and after that a decision should be taken.
I believe in taking decisions after a time frame and when i know that the odds are against me i would simply call it quits.
the patient did the right thing because his holding on to the life support is like prolonging the dooms day which would favor nobody in particular.
i think it is best to find a resting place than going through everlasting pain which would in the long run still result in the same thing.
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Re: SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
February 14, 2008 - 12:16 PM
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Re: SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
May 15, 2008 - 05:45 PM
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When doing this is non different to a person commiting suicide. irrespective of ur situation no one can take his/her own life except god above who created us in different ways including sicknesses! I totally am against idea of self deliverance and Euthanasia!
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Re: SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
May 19, 2008 - 01:01 PM
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Fine it is not the ideal thing for someone to take away his or her life. Cos you are not the owner of it. Someone gave you the life you are living today. In some situation that is above human control. I think self- deliverance or mercy killing is the right answer. For instance i was co-managing a patient with prostate Cancer. This man has being on hospital bed for over 4 months. He is unable to walk. He lost his sensation in his lower limbs. He can urinate and difficate without knowing his doing all this things.Infact his condition is getting bad every day. If he is alive to see the next day. He feels happy but he is tied of life both his relatives are tied of his persent condition.
In this case i believe self deliverance is the best option cos there is no cure for such aliment. It will relive the patient suffering and thesame time relatives.
Do U buy my ideal? They normal die after a long suffering.
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Re: SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
May 19, 2008 - 06:39 PM
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I can feel the suffering of the people of God but still the bible commands us not to take our lives in our hands irrespective of whatever situation. god has placed that man in that situation as part of his plan for his life. what we can do is to pray that god alleviate his suffering! under no circumstances should we practice self deliverance. i totally disagree kenny.
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Re: SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
June 5, 2008 - 02:50 PM
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What is your view>Given that life can be sustained by technology today, in ways that could not have been achieved in the past, the question becomes this:
Since it's man's interference in "the natural processes" that sustain a person like the one you mentioned, how can removing that needle be Immoral?
If in the year 1800 that man would have been dead at a young age, any life he achieves past that young age in the year 2008 happens due to man's interference (ie. useful drugs, surgical techniques, medical equipment, etc). Anyone removing that needle merely stops man's interference, rather than breaking "laws" of morality.
Personally, I would have a tough time removing the needle myself. But if I believed that medical science was only prolonging my friend's suffering, and that there was little hope of him getting better, I would want to remove it. I would even do this myself (as long as his family agreed with me)
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Re: SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
June 6, 2008 - 04:59 PM
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kengee wrote:
There is another very difficult ethical consideration one will wrestle with. That is the question of self deliverance. A few year ago a friend of mine, a godly man who had responded with courage and acceptance to the burden of Cancer for many months, was in the hospital, weak and dying.His doctor had told him and his wife that he could not live longer than a week or two. One sunday night, after a beautiful final visit from his wife alone ,after her departure my friend pulled the needle that was sustaining his life from his arm, shut off the valve, rolled up the tube and went to sleep.The next day he died. Did he take his life own life? ask Bayly. No, i belive not, what he did was merely to remove the means by which the doctor could delay his death for a days, prolonging the suffering of his wife, delaying his soul's flight to God.
Each of these difficult ethical decisions can be seen from different faith perspectives, and self deliverance is no exception. There are those who would say that self deliverance is not acceptable for a person of faith. And there are those of equally sound faith who would say that it is acceptable that death is simply a part of life. What is your view>
I was thinking you meant by self -deliverance maybe someone praying his/her way through with faith even if it's that of mustard seed!! How there you call this self-deliverance ???
This is one taking his/her own life which is SUCIDE.
I'm convinced that such man or woman has never exceded that of examples in the bible, Job never give up after even when all friends denied him...unless man of little faith....God even promised us that He will be with us when passing through fires.....So be of courage in whatever condidtion and God will see you throu if only you can believe my brother
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Re: SELF-DELIVERANCE COULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT?
June 9, 2008 - 10:33 AM
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Maybe i should trow more light on what i meant by SELF DELIVERANCE. This is simply means taking away your won life without any body invloved. You can call it sucid but in medical ethics it is not. Any one can take away he or her own life in many form. If you read my first post what led to this, U will understand what we are talking about. Thanks.
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June 10, 2008 - 03:40 PM
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In no condition will I see or expecting one taking his/her own life as a gratitude....afterall we are not the owner of life itself which was but the breath of God in us....normail one must wait untill God time.
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