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Re: US politics and the world
May 22, 2008 - 11:58 PM
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"I've finally decided what I want: I just want to see a Democrat in the House, be it Clinon or Obama. I actually preferred Obama in the beginning, but then there are speculations about maybe he won't keep his promise of taking out the troops from Iraq...so that's a big blotch on his campaign, and then there was Samantha Powers's monster controversy, but I don't fully support Senator Clinton either, seeing as how she was one of the Senators who signed the bill for the war to start in the first place. "
LOL!!! I love hearing people base their opinions on whether or not the the US leaves Iraq. Let me spare the suspense. No candidate in this election will briing the troops home. If you think im wrong then i have a bridge in my backyard that I would like to sell you. Clinton is the same as Bush. Obama is a marxist. McCain is anyone you want him to be. btw...Hitler was also a marxist...the ultimate end of being a liberal.
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May 23, 2008 - 12:01 AM
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"i said i don't know how [i]some[i] of the political process works. no one has ever explained to me well how the electorial college works. do you know? how in 2000 did Bush win when he had fewer votes? aren't presidents picked "by the people?" that's what i don't understand. they make it sound simple in school--pick a canidate and if they get the most votes that candidate wins, but 2000 proved that's not always true. why? what is there in the political process that i don't know? seems like my education should have covered it. "
actaully in 2000 GWB did get the most votes...for good or for bad...mostly bad.
part of your problem is your education...they indoctrinate in public schools....they lean left.
However, like it or not, we are not a democracy. We are a rebuplic. You might consider picking up a book now and then. I dont mean harry potter either. read some government books, read some history. learn for yourself and stop depending on others to teach you.
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May 23, 2008 - 12:03 AM
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the electoral college is in place to ensure that states like new york and california do not have a bigger say than states like wyoming or vermont. get it?
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May 23, 2008 - 12:06 AM
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"Deep End Zone, thanks for the help. i still don't like the fact that a person can win the popular vote and still lose an election. oh well, i guess. "
yup, and a lot of people dont like the fact the someone is innocent until proven guilty. its the burden of free will and free people. The electoral was set up so major cities couldnt settle an election. in the present, if new york and california and miami all voted, we would always have a democrate in office. Now back in the day, our framers didnt know that these places would vote the way that they do, but they had enough commen sence to know that it would happen. Thats what make the electoral college genius
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May 23, 2008 - 02:54 AM
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@Intageous: That much is pretty obvious, nowhere in this world do politicians keep their promises, but atleast hoping it is not wrong.
Anyhow, Obama is so very close to winning the nomination now.
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May 23, 2008 - 10:43 AM
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i got an interesting article which i thought will be interesting in this discussion and i just quote one paragraph and for the rest of the story i encourage everyone to follow the link below:
"The Indian Ocean tsunami of 2004, with its 225,000 or more deaths in 11 countries, shocked the world; so, in recent weeks, has the devastation wrought by a powerful cyclone (and tidal surge) that hit the Irrawaddy Delta of Myanmar. It resulted in at least 78,000 deaths (with another 56,000 reported missing) and a display of recalcitrance on the part of a military junta focused on its own security while its people perish. Similarly, a devastating earthquake in China's Sichuan Province that hit 7.9 on the Richter scale and whose tremors were felt 1,000 miles away has swept into the news. Its casualty count has already reached 51,000 with unknown numbers of Chinese still buried in rubble or cut off in rural areas and so, as yet, untallied, and an estimated five million people homeless."
[link="http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/322888"]
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May 23, 2008 - 03:55 PM
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"i got an interesting article which i thought will be interesting in this discussion and i just quote one paragraph and for the rest of the story i encourage everyone to follow the link below:"
yup, the rain falls on the just and the unjust alike.
welcome to the world
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June 29, 2008 - 05:57 AM
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The US politics is now entering a new era as notified by the recent outcome of the Democratic nominations, which endorsed the candidature of Barack Obama as the substantive Democratic nominee for the November elections.
Despite spirited efforts by Mrs Hillary Rodham Clinton to sway the nominations to her side. Barack Obama, an African American has made history by being the first black nominee for the US Presidential race. However, due to precedence, I do not expect Obama ascending to the Presidency because the race issue will be greatest undoing.
Notwithstanding the fact that Mccain (+74years) has seen the better side of life, the voters are surely going to put him in the Oval office.
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June 29, 2008 - 06:07 AM
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The withdrawal of US troops from Iraq is a thorny issue. Heading into the November elections, both the Republicans and their Democratic counterparts are worried stiff about articulating substantive policy positions regarding the foregoing matter until the voters' sentiments are well read. US arms manufacturers are a strong constituents in the US-Iraq relations hence they will not standby and do nothing because withdrawal is "bad business" to them. Also the withdrawal of troops from Iraq will be read as acceptance of Defeat and it will severely affect America's standing on the world stage.
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July 29, 2008 - 06:42 AM
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Its politics has always been the same regardless of the administration whether republic or democrat.
Its driven by the same principle:
"the carrot-and-stick policy that they use, and their policy of permanent interests and not permanent friends or enemies"
You are a democracy for as long as you are not a threat to US's interests and a dictator if you are perceived a threat to their interest.
Also it is characterised by hypocricy and double standards.
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July 29, 2008 - 10:46 PM
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It's good to here that there are also young like me who are interested in Politics. I've been also a fan of US Electoral process. I'm a Political Science student and we tried to compare the different electoral processes in the different coountries and one of them is US. What I like in their process is that even the party nominee for the position, the party member has a voice and a choice on it. The Obama-Clinton debate was a landmark. Both a first, first woman aspirant and a first black american.
And now, a fight between McCain and Obama is what the world is anticipating this November.
But the world (my opinion), is looking forward for Obama, his recent visit to Germany and Italy was a success.
I think same question as to the past post on this thread, is America ready for a half blooded white President?
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July 30, 2008 - 03:18 AM
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aian wrote:
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But the world (my opinion), is looking forward for Obama, his recent visit to Germany and Italy was a success.
I think same question as to the past post on this thread, is America ready for a half blooded white President?
Its a good question that you have posed can somebody (esp americans) give us an answer!
In my opinion americans especially their politicians are not that different black or white!
So the world must not expect much of change even if Obama comes into office.Their foreign policy is the same regardless of the administartion what can differ is the implemantation but same interests!
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July 30, 2008 - 01:37 PM
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slick frenzy,
you don't have to be so insulting. i'm still learning, ok? that's why i'm on this site.
as for Bush and the number of votes it took to win, what my last history teacher told me is that when there was a dispute over florida, a re-count was started, which Bush succeded in delaying in the supreme court before all the votes were counted. my teacher told me that in the end recount (after Bush had been declared winner) Gore had actually won. i looked it up, and found this article.
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_681500368/disputed_presidential_election_of_2000.html
it doesn't say what the final tally was, but it explains everything up to it, including how Bush managed to stop the recount.
wikipedia, however, says that "Under the recount rules initially requested by Gore, Bush would have won, and under the rules requested by Bush, Gore would have won."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2000
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August 1, 2008 - 07:38 PM
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Hypocrisy is a human trait regardless of where one hails from. Another human trait is being able to point out hypocracy in others and not being able to see it in one's self.
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August 1, 2008 - 07:46 PM
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i disagree! I dont think Obama's race will be of any major factor. The fact that he is the the nominee is proof positive of that.
Obama's problem is and will remain to be his lack of concrete policy. He hasn't outlined one plan yet other than just spouting off platitudes.
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